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[Paltheos]

MG Altron. Unfortunately, the kit's about as serious as its price tag. It's P-Bandai and probably out of stock at all the major outlets at this point, so you're looking at paying at least twice the price of a regular MG release ($100+ off the top of my head but I have no clue without googling).

You don't need gloves to use a knife. And fingerprints aren't an issue provided you wash your hands before you start building. You might cut yourself a little when you start out but as you gain experience that just doesn't happen anymore. I make precise cuts with the edge of the blade millimeters from my finger but don't cut myself because of how I grip and control it.

RG Zeta's not a bad kit but I cannot emphasize enough - more than any other kit I've built - that it is not a beginner's kit. It is delicate and finnicky and at times very frustrating.

Given the suits you've listed (Sandrock, Nu, Zeta), MG Sandrock is the safest bet. Wing MGs are all, from what I've heard, relatively simple, hassle-free builds.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

I heard RG Zeta was a nightmare. Did the Gerbera Tetra ever get a good kit?

going to grab a kit? nice!

 

[JadedWriter]

RG Zeta in its natural habitat.

It's not that bad if you intend to put it together in MS mode and display it as a brick. But yeah, it's not too fun if you intend to transform it. It can stand straight, though, which is more than can be said for the 2.0 MG.

Gerbera got one back in 2013, and it's not a bad kit. The thruster assembly on the shoulders are a bit fragile which is the main issue, and it's a wee bit pricey online.

If you want something from 0083, the GM Custom is a very good kit. The GPs haven't gotten love in HG form in a long time, but the RG GP01s are pretty solid.

Oh god lol, sounds like you just build it and throw it right back in the box then. How do they even decide what they make a kit of? There's nothing for GP02?

MG Altron. Unfortunately, the kit's about as serious as its price tag. It's P-Bandai and probably out of stock at all the major outlets at this point, so you're looking at paying at least twice the price of a regular MG release ($100+ off the top of my head but I have no clue without googling).

You don't need gloves to use a knife. And fingerprints aren't an issue provided you wash your hands before you start building. You might cut yourself a little when you start out but as you gain experience that just doesn't happen anymore. I make precise cuts with the edge of the blade millimeters from my finger but don't cut myself because of how I grip and control it.

RG Zeta's not a bad kit but I cannot emphasize enough - more than any other kit I've built - that it is not a beginner's kit. It is delicate and finnicky and at times very frustrating.

Given the suits you've listed (Sandrock, Nu, Zeta), MG Sandrock is the safest bet. Wing MGs are all, from what I've heard, relatively simple, hassle-free builds.

I think I'll use gloves to start. MG Sandrock will probably be my first one unless theres's a good MG Shenlong or something. Seems like I could build some of the other ones after I get better experience.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

Oh god lol, sounds like you just build it and throw it right back in the box then. How do they even decide what they make a kit of? There's nothing for GP02?

i'm waiting for an rg gp-02a, but i gotta finish my gp-01 sometime

 

[JadedWriter]

i'm waiting for an rg gp-02a, but i gotta finish my gp-01 sometime

I'm contemplating kits. It seems like something I'll have to try at least once just to prove to myself if I can do it.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

I'm contemplating kits. It seems like something I'll have to try at least once just to prove to myself if I can do it.

i heard the hg revive kits are pretty good.

 

[coredecepts]

i heard the hg revive kits are pretty good.

Hehe, we kind of already went down that road.

 

[SoundPulse]

There's two HG GP02s, with different weapon loadouts. I've always been concerned about how well it can hold onto its shield, though.

Also, I meant fingerprints as in your own, not fingerprints left on the kit.

 

[JadedWriter]

Hehe, we kind of already went down that road.

I looked at what they had in that line and I actually like the Gundam MkII in Titans colors.

All over my face...

 

[Paltheos]

Oh god lol, sounds like you just build it and throw it right back in the box then. How do they even decide what they make a kit of? There's nothing for GP02?

I think I'll use gloves to start. MG Sandrock will probably be my first one unless theres's a good MG Shenlong or something. Seems like I could build some of the other ones after I get better experience.

FYI, I've never used gloves when building. You... might manage on a MG because the parts are that much bigger, but any seriously thick gloves might prevent you from securely gripping the pieces (iow, they'll come flying out of your hands when you apply pressure from the knife).

For selecting kits in the line (RG), it's the same as for MGs: A mixture of popularity and ability to reuse frames/parts, although for RGs the criteria are even more stringent. We get at most 4 RGs a year and typically twice as many MGs.

Edit: If you really want a Mk. II, the HGUC Revive is prob. pretty good. They've all been good from what I've heard. FYI though, the RG is regarded as one if not the best in the line.

 

[JadedWriter]

FYI, I've never used gloves when building. You... might manage on a MG because the parts are that much bigger, but any seriously thick gloves might prevent you from securely gripping the pieces (iow, they'll come flying out of your hands when you apply pressure from the knife).

For selecting kits in the line (RG), it's the same as for MGs: A mixture of popularity and ability to reuse frames/parts, although for RGs the criteria are even more stringent. We get at most 4 RGs a year and typically twice as many MGs.

That explains why Kyshatria is an HGUC then. I need to see some more gunpla though, though it sounds like some of my faves would be either too hard or the kits are too old.

 

[coredecepts]

I looked at what they had in that line and I actually like the Gundam MkII in Titans colors.

All over my face...

Yeah, I really like the MkIIs, both HG and RG. I have the RG MkII AEUG, just gotta build it!

 

[JadedWriter]

Yeah, I really like the MkIIs, both HG and RG. I have the RG MkII AEUG, just gotta build it!

Just checked and there are no good kits for the Messala, Baund Doc or Asshimar...god damn it. I know they're HG, but I was hoping for a detailed MG or something.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

I looked at what they had in that line and I actually like the Gundam MkII in Titans colors.

All over my face...

there's a guy on macross who's a big fan of hg's he does a comparison w/ some hg revive with the original hg

he has comparisons of the mkII so you can see the differences

here:
http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=32798&p=1247193

here his shot of gp-01 edit: opps i think its hg rg and some non grade
http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=32798&p=1249635

 

[JadedWriter]

That MkII looks so good. If it's not too complex then that might be it as well. price too. I just saw MG P Bandai Altron on Amazon for 160...fuck me sideways.

 

[muteki]

Just checked and there are no good kits for the Messala, Baund Doc or Asshimar...god damn it. I know they're HG, but I was hoping for a detailed MG or something.

Yeah most of the more interesting Z and ZZ suits don't have MG's T_T

 

[Paltheos]

Yeah most of the more interesting Z and ZZ suits don't have MG's T_T

Gotta make room on the production line for P-Bandai MG Zaku 2.0 "WeDrewThisNameFromaHat YouStupidIdiots" Custom

 

[davidwhangchoi]

Hehe, we kind of already went down that road.

my bad, i was skimming the posts and didn't see hg revive content =)


i might stop by gundam planet this week just to browse around,

 

[JadedWriter]

Yeah most of the more interesting Z and ZZ suits don't have MG's T_T

Yeah those are some suits I'd be proud to own. They're real fan suits, no offense. How many Zaku's does a person really need? Oh god just remembered what the Gaplant is...would love a kit of that.

 

[SoundPulse]

Gotta make room on the production line for P-Bandai MG Zaku 2.0 "WeDrewThisNameFromaHat YouStupidIdiots" Custom

Hey man, it totally has a new decals and a new antenna! Totally different!

But yeah, it's what P-Bandai should be for, but it still feels pretty silly.

 

[muteki]

Gotta make room on the production line for P-Bandai MG Zaku 2.0 "WeDrewThisNameFromaHat YouStupidIdiots" Custom

Ehh, I understand it is more the extra engineering required for the variable frame, combined with the extra plastic for the (typically) larger suits. Their relative lack of popularity compared to something from a new series or a Zaku II varient don't make up for it.

I have high hopes that the RE/100 line will rectify this with at least some updated kits for more obscure machines, but releases are few/far between.

RE/100 Geymalk would be my dream kit.

 

[Megalosaro]

Been rewatching ZZ.

Elle > Roux.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Been rewatching ZZ.

Elle > Roux.

Truth


Update.

Both arms and legs of the Strike Rouge built, lined and decal'd. Just need head and chest and I'll upload pics, going to do the weapon system and probably not decal that aside from the rifle and shield given I don't equip most SEED backpacks, so I'll just build it and show it equipped.

 

[coredecepts]

Welp, I bought the HG RX-78-2 Gundam Revive.

Now I'll have a SD, a HG, and a MG of the RX-78-2.

 

[TheFlow]

I would buy a rg unicorn kit

 

[duckroll]

I would buy a rg unicorn kit

But how many parts will you break building it?

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Since I'm finishing up X, have they released any recent, good kits for that show?

Like Gundam Virsago with those extendable arms would be tight as shit.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Since I'm finishing up X, have they released any recent, good kits for that show?

Like Gundam Virsago with those extendable arms would be tight as shit.

HgAW X, DX, Airmaster and they have Leapord redesign in Build Fighters Try line.

mG X and DX both are good kits with weak waists. I wouldn't count on it getting any villain suits for several years if ever.

As far as Virsago, they had a Robot Damshii, but no models. If they ever bring out a MG TV Shenlong or Altron you could potentially see the arm gimick as they are exactly the same lol.

That said it's very unlikely we see anything aside from maybe an HG in the near future.

 

[JadedWriter]

Since I'm finishing up X, have they released any recent, good kits for that show?

Like Gundam Virsago with those extendable arms would be tight as shit.

Why make a new Virsago when they can get off their fucking asses and make a new Baund Doc, Messala, Gaplant and Asshimar.

 

[Megalosaro]

But how many parts will you break building it?

How many parts will YOU break, duckroll?

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[TheFlow]

But how many parts will you break building it?

at least a couple. the only kits I have broken a piece to have been Wing Gundam kits. Still going to build the sandrock though

 

[duckroll]

How many parts will YOU break, duckroll?

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I have a MG Unicorn, I don't need to suffer 1/144 sized versions of the same parts!

 

[Beth Cyra]

To be fair to duckroll he would probably do better then me.

No lie every HG destroy Unicorn I've built (Both Unicorn and Phenix) has gotten it's back beam sabers busted with the pegs in the slots.

So I imagine I that would continue with the RG's so I have at least two, four, or six depending on how many they release out of the the three units.

 

[duckroll]

That wasn't a knock on anyone. Just ask Enron, I've been talking about the possibility of a RG Unicorn for like over a year now. My conclusion is that they will eventually make one based heavily on the MG, which means a transformable kit but at 1/144 scale. That alone will make the fragility of the kit a pretty tricky question. Especially all the sliding panels and what not.

 

[Beth Cyra]

That wasn't a knock on anyone. Just ask Enron, I've been talking about the possibility of a RG Unicorn for like over a year now. My conclusion is that they will eventually make one based heavily on the MG, which means a transformable kit but at 1/144 scale. That alone will make the fragility of the kit a pretty tricky question. Especially all the sliding panels and what not.

Well I can't see how you could possibly be wrong.

Hell the PG is pretty much just scaled up MG in so many ways, if they really did a full unique design for the RG it would be really odd, well to me at least.

 

[TheFlow]

P-Bandai Exclusive: HG 1/144 Crossbone Gundam X2

tempting

 

[Beth Cyra]

I got the MG P Bandai X2, and I think that is enough for me.

I would certainly grab the HG if I didn't have it though. So long as your cool with stickers the HG is a nice little kit and the Shot Lance looks pretty good in 1/144.

 

[duckroll]

Well I can't see how you could possibly be wrong.

Hell the PG is pretty much just scaled up MG in so many ways, if they really did a full unique design for the RG it would be really odd, well to me at least.

Well the (more practical) alternative is that the RG could be an upgrade on the HG kits with the detail of the MG kit without the transformation, so they would sell Unicorn and Destroy separately

Spoiler

on P-Bandai

. But I don't think they would go for that because it goes against the RG line being very much premium 1/144.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Well the (more practical) alternative is that the RG could be an upgrade on the HG kits with the detail of the MG kit without the transformation, so they would sell Unicorn and Destroy separately

Spoiler

on P-Bandai

. But I don't think they would go for that because it goes against the RG line being very much premium 1/144.

Given they forced the Zeta and its really awful and weak transformation I can't see them skipping making Unicorn, Banshee, and Phenix Transform.

Though to be completely honest I would actually prefer it as the MG transformation isn't the best and combine that with RG shoulders and a Transformation that will likely be worse then Zeta's and I just know I will spend my whole build time angry.

 

[duckroll]

Given they forced the Zeta and its really awful and weak transformation I can't see them skipping making Unicorn, Banshee, and Phenix Transform.

Though to be completely honest I would actually prefer it as the MG transformation isn't the best and combine that with RG shoulders and a Transformation that will likely be worse then Zeta's and I just know I will spend my whole build time angry.

I agree. That's why I said having fixed modes is actually more practical from a building/display perspective, but how Bandai markets the RG line seems to overwrite certain elements of common sense. It is certainly much more appealing to announce and show off a MG level 1/144 kit, but the reality of how the kit feels can vary a lot. My RG Zeta is neeeeeeeeever transforming.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

I hear the PG got the transformation pretty much "perfect" (lol). Unless they used some black sorcery to shrink that down to 1/144 scale, I agree with the idea of releasing two separate RGs ala the HGUCs.

We already have a precedent of sorts with the RG GP-01.

 

[Beth Cyra]

I hear the PG got the transformation pretty much "perfect" (lol). Unless they used some black sorcery to shrink that down to 1/144 scale, I agree with the idea of releasing two separate RGs ala the HGUCs.

We already have a precedent with the RG GP-01.

Hmm, I really don't know if we can say that.

GP01 doesn't actually transform between Ground and Space modes, so releasing them separate is how it should be.

So far all kit suit gimmicks are kept regardless of how flawed it is. Zeta and Wing with Transformations, and even GP01 and Full Vernier with the Core Block. So as it stands I don't think we can say there is a precedent with releasing anything but the suit as is.

 

[yami4ct]

I agree. That's why I said having fixed modes is actually more practical from a building/display perspective, but how Bandai markets the RG line seems to overwrite certain elements of common sense. It is certainly much more appealing to announce and show off a MG level 1/144 kit, but the reality of how the kit feels can vary a lot. My RG Zeta is neeeeeeeeever transforming.

I've transformed my Zeta like 4-5 times without breaking it. Only thing I broke was the collar joint, but that was me being an idiot during building and doesn't impact the solidity during display. Just makes transformation an extra bitch. I'm not saying I'm comfortable transforming it, but it sure is an impressive bit of engineering.

There is only 1 place I think a RG Unicorn would have fragility trouble. That is the chest vents, the same spot where the MG Is super duper fragile. If they made a larger joint akin to the PG, it should work.

A RG Unicorn would be a damn thing of beauty if they could pull it off. I'd much rather have a Sinanju, but I'd buy either.

I hear the PG got the transformation pretty much "perfect" (lol). Unless they used some black sorcery to shrink that down to 1/144 scale, I agree with the idea of releasing two separate RGs ala the HGUCs.

We already have a precedent with the RG GP-01.

The PG transformation is fantastic and doesn't feel fragile as well. The only reason it needs a ton of extra parts is for some linked movement. If they ditched that and forced you to move the knee psychoframe separately from the back thruster, I honestly can't see anything that wouldn't be doable on a MG or even RG scale.

 

[Paltheos]

Since I'm finishing up X, have they released any recent, good kits for that show?

Like Gundam Virsago with those extendable arms would be tight as shit.

What Beth Cyra said, although I haven't had trouble with the waist on my MG DX. The MGs are really something to see. The HGs use some ordinary, chrome stickers for the backpack panels for the satellite cannons, but Bandai gives you something really special for the MGs - Prismatic paper, kept in place by clear parts that fit over them. Photos don't do the visual effect justice, you have to see it in motion. It looks fantastic.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

on my last episode of unicorn, will post when i finish =)

 

[kiunchbb]

I think I'll use gloves to start. MG Sandrock will probably be my first one unless theres's a good MG Shenlong or something. Seems like I could build some of the other ones after I get better experience.

It is a good idea to use a gloves while using hobby knife and sanding, the gloves had saved me a few times from cutting myself. You should also wear them while using sandpaper, you really don't want your finger shredding skin because of sandpaper.

Also something that just came to my mind, replace the blades often, it is normal to use 5 to 7 blades per MG kit. If it is not sharp enough, it could break and the blade will bounced up to your face, happened to me once.

Get wetordry sandpaper so you can apply water to reduce dust, you should also consider a dust mask. Dust from gunpla isn't as harmful as resin, but the less stuffs in your lung the better.

 

[NEO0MJ]

It is a good idea to use a gloves while using hobby knife and sanding, the gloves had saved me a few times from cutting myself. You should also wear them while using sandpaper, you really don't want your finger shredding skin because of sandpaper.

What kind of gloves are you using? Wouldn't want something that hurts dexterity.

 

[JadedWriter]

It is a good idea to use a gloves while using hobby knife and sanding, the gloves had saved me a few times from cutting myself. You should also wear them while using sandpaper, you really don't want your finger shredding skin because of sandpaper.

Also something that just came to my mind, replace the blades often, it is normal to use 5 to 7 blades per MG kit. If it is not sharp enough, it could break and the blade will bounced up to your face, happened to me once.

Get wetordry sandpaper so you can apply water to reduce dust, you should also consider a dust mask. Dust from gunpla isn't as harmful as resin, but the less stuffs in your lung the better.

My there's so much stuff to think about. No wonder why I'm such a false starter with this.

 

[EvilKatarn]

Ech, I've never thought to use gloves. Sure I've cut myself once or twice but the best part was dropping the knife on my leg. No glove was gonna save me from that. Also I use one blade per kit and no sandpaper - just do clean cuts with your knife.

 

[TheFlow]

Jaded don't overthink it. Hobby knife and pliers to take out and clean the edges are the only things you need.

My first mg was a Deathsycthe so don't stress about it.


Using 5-7 blades on mg is overkill and a waste. Get some quality blades.

I used 2 blades to build 5 kits with no stub mark in site. I can show pics of any of my kits.

If you wanna use gloves you could but just make sure your hands are washed and dry. Cut away from your fingers always.

I would recommend sandpaper if you ever plan to spray your kit with paint or top coat. I actually went back to one of my first kits and use paper and looks way better.

It doesn't really matter which mg you start off since it is more of a time thing rather than a difficulty thing.

I mean unless your nose is inches from the kit you won't need a face mask. But I recommend something to cover your mouth/ nose when spraying.

I have yet to build the sandrock but it should be straight build outside of the weapons. One thing I recommend after building 3 of the wing kits is to be very careful you aren't cutting into the wrong party in the runner.