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Less than ideal perhaps?
I mean that's the part we can only speculate on right now. Cable lengths and whether it comes with instructions and all that. Who knows at this point.
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The High-end VR Discussion Thread (HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, Playstation VR)
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Less than ideal perhaps?
I mean that's the part we can only speculate on right now. Cable lengths and whether it comes with instructions and all that. Who knows at this point.
Yeah SDE is my only hype killer at the moment. I really can't wait to see for myself and compare both. But I do plan to keep both regardless. Would potentially get touch as well, based on exclusive content. For me, the rift is simply better for seated experiences from a comfort perspective alone (based on everything I've heard so far). So I can totally see myself using it for ALL seated experience games, and use the vive exclusively for room scale.
Agreed, but you probably already know that
That would be interesting to see. Because that will really hurt the Oculus Store, so I'm not sure Oculus will allow it. Maybe if there is a good markup on Touch.
I like the Tested guys, but I just can't handle Norm sometimes. I like him and he does great interviews, but I wish he would let the other guys finish a thought. They'll be saying something interesting and I'm waiting for the rest and he just cuts them off and finishes for them or just rewords what they said. And he likes the light leaking through the bottom of the Rift which I just can't understand.
Dreams-Visions
Member
It will come and people will buy most games (not just room scale) from Steam. Because Steam, its chat and robust features will always dominate (because they've been curating its content and tuning its features for over a decade). Best move Oculus can make to slow that eventuality is to make Oculus SDK work with all the major HMDs.
I think from a technical standpoint, everything will be in a state of flux for a while and devs shouldn't break their heads over supporting competing products this early on. Oculus might completely revamp their approach to tracking in the next rev of touch. Heck, Vive might too, although unlikely. The APIs would all be rewritten and optimized over and over. It's ok for the first few years for devs to keep rapidly innovating and doing their own thing without worrying about others IMO.
And there's going to be enough content on each platform to keep everyone happy anyway.
The only people who won't be happy are those who can't afford everything but want everything. Well, that's not how the world works, so they'll just have to make peace with that.
Zalusithix
Member
The Hover Junker guys are having way too much fun with guns. I envy them.
Edit:
Also, I want that matrix like idea to exist in some VR game, if only as an easter egg. Just have an arsenal of guns materialize around you that you can pick up, fire and discard.
Edit:
Also, I want that matrix like idea to exist in some VR game, if only as an easter egg. Just have an arsenal of guns materialize around you that you can pick up, fire and discard.
I don't see why APIs will have to be completely overhauled, even if tracking solutions change. You just abstract everything, like what OpenVR does.
Furthermore, I think it's in the developers best interest and the platform holders to want potential customers to be accessible from ANY hardware, not divided up. It helps the VR industry take off and grow.
lol @ Shu on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/712847155350769664
"（´-`）.｡oO（started playing Dark Souls III on PS4, wonder if people can guess what display I'm playing it on...)"
He knows the right strings to pull.
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/712847155350769664
"（´-`）.｡oO（started playing Dark Souls III on PS4, wonder if people can guess what display I'm playing it on...)"
He knows the right strings to pull.
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
I loved watching their twitch stream over the summer while they were devving. Pretty good mix of electro swing they'd put on too. I thought they were a lock for Justin Roiland's first VR game as much as he talked about them. I'm sure that accounting game is in good hands with Pugh though.
That's a tall order. You'll want to read every performance article you can find and hope they test your setup before you buy any games before you get your new rig.
Also there is a German site that tested a bunch of setups and posted results, someone might be able to link you to.
I don't think it's simple as that. Coding for different APIs is one thing, officially supporting a competing product is another. The moment you support a competing product, consumers will hold you responsible for the QA as well as post sales support for said competing product. You need to accept refunds if a game sold through your store doesnt work well on a competing product, even if it works well on your own product. It just seems too early to be dealing with all that instead of focusing resources on innovating on your own.
Sure, but one needs to be practical too and weigh the costs of doing so. Will it slow down release cycles? What's the effort for testing and supporting new SDK releases etc. If they choose to do it, great, but if not, it's understandable.
Zalusithix
Member
Given the only somewhat worse performance of the 670 vs the 770, I'd say Hover Junkers will probably work.
http://www.computerbase.de/2016-03/...rks/2/#diagramm-hover-junkers-geforce-gtx-770
Just got my shipping prep confirmation for Oculus. Is the 1-3 weeks thing normal or am I in a second batch? I ordered within 5 minutes. EDIT: Looks like a blanket automated message.
Also this https://support.oculus.com/help/oculus/526448734199646/
Probably just a support thing, but they are saying you can't use an HDMI adapter. They are suggesting that you free up the HDMI port on your graphics card by using an adapter for your TV or device that is using it and not the Rift itself.
Also this https://support.oculus.com/help/oculus/526448734199646/
Probably just a support thing, but they are saying you can't use an HDMI adapter. They are suggesting that you free up the HDMI port on your graphics card by using an adapter for your TV or device that is using it and not the Rift itself.
What number are you?
Uh oh. if that's truly the case, it's probably gonna be an issue with other headsets as well. Ugh. I wonder why though... is it the non standard resolution or bandwidth?
shiftplusone
Member
Virtual Desktop looks like a must have, and I expect to lose some time in that since it does 3d shit
and someone in that thread mentioned emulators, oh man
I got 24 on my order number and I also got the 1-3 weeks thing
I sincerely hope it's like, tomorrow though ha
I definitely should be day 1 and I'll be real bummed if I'm not
and someone in that thread mentioned emulators, oh man
I got 24 on my order number and I also got the 1-3 weeks thing
I sincerely hope it's like, tomorrow though ha
I definitely should be day 1 and I'll be real bummed if I'm not
25.
Oculus team member said adapters worked so i'm guessing this is just one of those "official" things to get around support questions about cables because there will no doubt be ones that don't work. I'm not too worried about my 4K adapter not working.
Zalusithix
Member
It's bullshit. Either an (active) adapter works, or it doesn't. If it'll work with the Radeon R9 295X2, it'll work with anything. The 295X2 isn't some magical card. It just doesn't happen to have any HDMI ports, so they're begrudgingly making an exception for it. Pretty much every other card that meets min spec happens to have an HDMI port, so it's simpler for them to offload the "problem" to the companies making the monitors/TVs.
Lol. Why only the 295x2 though? Fury X doesn't have hdmi ports either right?
Wowfunhappy
Member
So, about 60 seconds after the Oculus Rift went I preorder, I bought one. I got an error indicating that the order didn't go through, and I retried a couple of times and then gave up. I've since decided I don't want oneI'm very interested in VR, but for $600 I'll wait for second gen.
I've just been sent an email indicating that my Oculus Rift is almost ready to ship.
Should I:
1) Buy it and resell it for a profit? This would honestly be a bit of a hassle for a busy college senior like me, so I'm not sure if it would be worth it. Any thoughts?
2) Transfer the order to someone else who wants it. Perhaps I could change the billing and shipping address to that of another Gaffer (not for any sort of profit, since this would be easy on my part. Is this possible? I'm guessing it isn't.
3) Just cancel the order. I feel kind of like I'm missing out on an opportunity, but...
Thanks!
I've just been sent an email indicating that my Oculus Rift is almost ready to ship.
Should I:
1) Buy it and resell it for a profit? This would honestly be a bit of a hassle for a busy college senior like me, so I'm not sure if it would be worth it. Any thoughts?
2) Transfer the order to someone else who wants it. Perhaps I could change the billing and shipping address to that of another Gaffer (not for any sort of profit, since this would be easy on my part. Is this possible? I'm guessing it isn't.
3) Just cancel the order. I feel kind of like I'm missing out on an opportunity, but...
Thanks!
Zalusithix
Member
The Fury X has one HDMI port. Cards without one are really the oddball out. Even if you had a couple, that still allows you to conveniently exclude the other 99% from support requests.
Either way: Point to HTC for including a Displayport input on the breakout box. No support needed, because no adapters needed!
Go for 1. I'm sure someone here is willing to pay extra. The profit you make would be well worth it. College education doesn't pay for itself you know
And hey, you took the pains to place an order within 60 seconds on a site that kept throwing all sorts of errors, for your own personal use. That is worth something. Profit away. I'd say $800 is a reasonable price including taxes and shipping, but I won't be surprised if there are people willing to pay more.
Dusktildawn48
Member
Let it ship to your house and sell it to a gaffer for a small profit. That's what I'd do. Just ask for something like $700
Think I confused hdmi 2.0 support for lack of a port altogether. My bad.
Had no idea about this. Cool!
Well first step would be logging in to your shop account and checking that you actually have an order with a card on file and the correct address etc
TheMadMan007
Member
I got my oculus shipping soon email too! What number are you guys talking about? I ordered with in the fires few minutes, but it was a couple months ago at this point, I remember the site wasn't working for the first few, so I'd say the first 5-8 mins it went live.
Wowfunhappy
Member
I do indeed! What I'm NOT 100% sure of is whether I actually have $600 in my account, so I will need to check that.
Thanks guys, for a potential $200 I'm going to try to resell it. I feel a little bit scummy about it, but I guess that is how supply and demand works.
Thanks. I realize it's pushing it, but just about anything would do.
It looks like Hover Junkers is plausible. I know Valve released information on their dynamic quality settings (Source 2 and their Unity plug-in), stating a GTX 680 could run some things. I suppose I'll have to wait for further performance benchmarks.
The first 2 digits after the 0s. Eg: YYY0000XX39191 is XX
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Thumper: New PSVR Gameplay video with music
It's been hard for me to get a good understanding on what this game would actually play like until now. Polygon has a great 10 minute video with a guy playing it in PSVR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytsbpjgmCmI
It's day one for me now! The music sounds great and the visuals are mesmorizing
It's been hard for me to get a good understanding on what this game would actually play like until now. Polygon has a great 10 minute video with a guy playing it in PSVR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytsbpjgmCmI
It's day one for me now! The music sounds great and the visuals are mesmorizing
Same here. We are probably in the 2nd or 3rd batch (sometime in April). I don't expect it to arrive before the 20th.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
I got my email about 1-3 weeks, I'm apparently 25 although I could have sworn I was in the 26 group.
I was really hoping it was going to ship on Monday. It may still, we'll see.
Getting close though!
I was really hoping it was going to ship on Monday. It may still, we'll see.
Getting close though!
There was someone in the other Oculus thread that was interested in buying somesones pre order. Should be last page or close to it.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
PSVR can do all these things too. SCEE London's game has these in the game.
PSVR will need a second camera behind you (as will the Rift) to do 360 if tracking controllers is a part of the game.
All the emails say 1-3 weeks.
The PSVR uses one camera right? 360 degrees will be a challenge to track the controllers properly while turned around. Head tracking won't be a problem though, but having head tracking alone wouldn't make much sense, unless the game only needs head tracking. It's designed as a primarily front facing solution.
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
For pre-orders yes, the kickstarter ones just had "shipping soon", nothing about specific time frame.
Is that even possible? I thought the PS4 camera required a dedicated auxiliary port, which will be taken by the front facing camera?
Probably not. Never know what could happen with future adapters and shit considering the crazy that is going on in the console world right now.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/250820/announcements/detail/646638027963992634
Desktop Theater and other Seated VR games will set an initial Seated Center (once the headset detects it’s being worn) if one has never been set. This is saved across sessions. Use “Reset Seated Center” from the in-headset Settings menu to change it.
Might just be poor wording, but can the Vive actually detect when you are wearing the headset? Seems really useful if true. Especially for seated stuff. Anyone with a DK2 knows how annoying it was to orient the center if you launch the game without the headset on.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
I got up half an hour before it went live. Created an HTC account just to be sure. I was there the second it went live but the website wouldn't put the order through no matter how many times I tried until I tried closing the page and redoing everything. Could NOT have taken more than 10 minutes... Got an email that I am in the second April shipment... I'm pretty pissed. Dagnabbit.
On the other hand I am preoccupying my time building this to make more space in the basement.
I am using these DIY plans,
http://www.ana-white.com/2010/03/plans-a-murphy-bed-you-can-build-and-afford-to-build.html
Super simple and cheap solution. Should cost no more than $150 dollars depending on how fancy you get. Though you could get frugal and hunt for scraps at the lumber yards and potentially nock the price down to screws, nails, hinges, paint and latches. I just changed the measurements to fit our "queen" size bed and flipped it sideways. If you aren't comfortable making cuts or just don't have the tools or time, just take the measurements with you to the lumber store and they can most likely make all of the cuts for you free of charge. And if you don't have space in your vehicle to transport the materials they may deliver for free as well like mine did.
Doing this effectively doubles my roomscale space. This will put me at roughly 17'x9'
Even if this is something kind of foreign to you (it's my first time building furniture as well) it really is easy to figure out and it really helps take your mind off the wait for VR.
Also, I got some huge bonus points from the wife who loves the idea of creating more space (and a shelf on top) and making it look nice. Really softens the blow of how much I've been spending on VR lately lol.
EDIT: The photos aren't mine. Just an example. I will be documenting the process though for those that are interested. I will post photos of the finished product when I get the chance.
On the other hand I am preoccupying my time building this to make more space in the basement.
I am using these DIY plans,
http://www.ana-white.com/2010/03/plans-a-murphy-bed-you-can-build-and-afford-to-build.html
Super simple and cheap solution. Should cost no more than $150 dollars depending on how fancy you get. Though you could get frugal and hunt for scraps at the lumber yards and potentially nock the price down to screws, nails, hinges, paint and latches. I just changed the measurements to fit our "queen" size bed and flipped it sideways. If you aren't comfortable making cuts or just don't have the tools or time, just take the measurements with you to the lumber store and they can most likely make all of the cuts for you free of charge. And if you don't have space in your vehicle to transport the materials they may deliver for free as well like mine did.
Doing this effectively doubles my roomscale space. This will put me at roughly 17'x9'
Even if this is something kind of foreign to you (it's my first time building furniture as well) it really is easy to figure out and it really helps take your mind off the wait for VR.
Also, I got some huge bonus points from the wife who loves the idea of creating more space (and a shelf on top) and making it look nice. Really softens the blow of how much I've been spending on VR lately lol.
EDIT: The photos aren't mine. Just an example. I will be documenting the process though for those that are interested. I will post photos of the finished product when I get the chance.
I believe it and the Rift both have the proximity sensor that knows when a headset is on someone. It's a little IR sensor inside the headset itself.
Yup. I think the consumer Rift does this too. Remember Palmer talking about it on reddit while discussing burn in.
I got up half an hour before it went live. Created an HTC account just to be sure. I was there the second it went live but the website wouldn't put the order through no matter how many times I tried until I tried closing the page and redoing everything. Could NOT have taken more than 10 minutes... Got an email that I am in the second April shipment... I'm pretty pissed. Dagnabbit.
On the other hand I am preoccupying my time building this to make more space in the basement.
I am using these DIY plans,
http://www.ana-white.com/2010/03/plans-a-murphy-bed-you-can-build-and-afford-to-build.html
Super simple and cheap solution. Should cost no more than $150 dollars depending on how fancy you get. Though you could get frugal and hunt for scraps at the lumber yards and potentially nock the price down to screws, nails, hinges, and latches. I just changed the measurements to fit our "queen" size bed and flipped it sideways. If you aren't comfortable making cuts or just don't have the tools or time, just take the measurements with you to the lumber store and they can most likely make all of the cuts for you free of charge. And if you don't have space in your vehicle to transport the materials they may deliver for free as well like mine did.
Doing this effectively doubles my roomscale space. This will put me at roughly 17'x9'
Even if this is something kind of foreign to you (it's my first time building furniture as well) it really is easy to figure out and it really helps take your mind off the wait for VR.
Also, I got some huge bonus points from the wife who loves the idea of creating more space (and a shelf on top) and making it look nice. Really softens the blow of how much I've been spending on VR lately lol.
Super tempted to do this and get standing desk for my PC to save even more space.
Fantastic!
RadicalVelocity
Member
You're missing a zero.
Haha
But seriously, selling for $200 extra may be a very cheap markup. Special GAFer deal.
I used to detest such practices. Then I spent several years on the verge of seeing my family fall apart. I don't begrudge anyone who's anywhere near reasonable anymore.