bigwinnerx
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I'm 99% sure I'm canceling my Oculus but might end up keeping it to sell locally at cost around DC. Dunno yet.
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The High-end VR Discussion Thread (HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, Playstation VR)
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Not seen one person say the PSVR has the best looking display.
Subpixels are not the measure of visual information conveyed. It's far more complicated than that, but essentially resolution is more important, regardless of subpixels (because of how PenTile actually works).
BigTnaples
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bigwinnerx
Member
Ha. Right. Context is I should be in Wave 1 of Vive. Also I'm a 27er for Rift.
Felix Lighter
Member
I'm leaning more and more irrationally towards keeping both.
Deyjandi_Von
Member
Seriously?? I'm snapping one up at that price.
BigTnaples
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Solid. If I was in the first wave I might of considered cancelling my Rift as well, but alas. I am weak. And nervous about missing out on exclusives.
Right. So then why did you even post that calculation?
UnrealEck
Member
I suggest you try and reserve one online. The deal is very well known now and I've saw a guy on hotdeals buying £880 worth of them. lol.
I sincerely hope that they don't! Timewarp (or reprojection) is not some crazy magic trick that enables VR to run on 'low' end machines.
It certainly helps when your game is 5-10% below the 90hz target but it is clearly noticeable when it's below that. And I wouldn't recommend that VR experience to any player.
Even on the 75hz DK2 running around 50fps with timewarp was a kinda bad experience but on the Retail Oculus with the 90hz display running around 45fps is like a nightmare...
85-90fps - you don't notice the dropped frames that much
80-85fps - you start noticing the dropped frames
70-80fps - i would say this is when it's borderline playable - the dropped frames are annoying but you could still enjoy the game
below 70fps - i don't think that you're going to like it
This is my personal experience after playing countless hours in VR.
And more on the subject from Oculus:
https://developer.oculus.com/blog/asynchronous-timewarp-on-oculus-rift/
Because there is more to picture quality than resolution. The sub-pixel in a full RGB display will provide better color accuracy.
The degree of the screen door effect on the Vive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS-Ii-4NHEk
http://imgur.com/a/5gPLC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS-Ii-4NHEk
http://imgur.com/a/5gPLC
Still doesn't explain why you posted a calculation that you knew it had no relevance.
This one seems to show it the most:
Which is surprisingly less. I was expecting more. And if the Rift is better than this, then I think I can stop worrying about it altogether.
DOT DASH DOT
Member
You can see it, but going by that video, I'll be fine with the quality.
DOT DASH DOT
Member
This one seems to show it the most:
Which is surprisingly less. I was expecting more. And if the Rift is better than this, then I think I can stop worrying about it altogether.
It's actually put me at ease, things can get so blown up for no good reason.
For all the discussion around here about it I thought it will be much worse.
It's also much more noticeable in white rooms. Surprised Valve is doing so much white room stuff. The second you can interact though you forget about it.
Wow the SDE is way less than I thought. The only time I tried a device kit I didn't know which one I had on. They were demoing the Minion 3D ride from universal studios. The screen door was so bad that my eyes were watering. This year I tried a Gear VR at BB. That screen door was also pretty bad. Either these screens aren't accurately showing how bad the SDE is on the Vive, or the CV have way better screens than the one on the Samsung phones.
This one seems to show it the most:
Which is surprisingly less. I was expecting more. And if the Rift is better than this, then I think I can stop worrying about it altogether.
But I thought the Rift and Vive were using the same screens.
Same screens, different optics. They have different strengths and weaknesses.
This one seems to show it the most:
Which is surprisingly less. I was expecting more. And if the Rift is better than this, then I think I can stop worrying about it altogether.
I love the look of a good SDE.
bigwinnerx
Member
I'm fully aware I'm getting in on gen 1 consumer tech and it'll be rough around the edges. Probably why I'm going with Vive because it still looks like an IRAD project.
Don't worry, they don't. In fact, they very explicitly state that you should not do that in the same presentation where they introduced it as a fallback option. In all caps even.
I have no idea where RadicalVelocity got that from.
Thank you!! I've been trying to get this fixed for 3 weeks. I didn't talk to Fernando, but I was able to get my card number changed by asking for E-Commerce. I had opened up a support ticket a week ago but never did get a call back.
Entirely fair and well-reasoned.
I went in for the higher priced set because I grew up on X-Wing, Tie Fighter, Wing Commander Armada, Descent: Freespace, Forsaken, Descent, etc. They were among my favorite games ever. I've been waiting for the space shooter genre to return for damn near 15 years. So for me, I knew I was going to like E, Star Citizen, No Man's Sky, and whatever else that might follow (like EVE:V) no matter what.
And about 1,500 hours later, I'm still playing ED almost daily so the investment was a wise one. It's almost the exclusive reason why I bought into VR at this stage of its existence (though I'm pleased to have found more reasons).
So how bad is something like the Thrustmaster T-Flight for ED if you want to see if you even like using one? It has a surprisingly high review score on Amazon.
I used to love space shooters but haven't played one in years. I'd hate to add another expensive peripheral to the graveyard of unused purchases. That's cheap enough though that I wouldn't care.
plagiarize
Banned
I have a tracking number for my Rift as of about four hours ago. Doesn't seem to be in UPS's system though, so I don't think I'll be getting anything on Monday, but I'm good with Tuesday or Wednesday anyways. Fingers still crossed though.
Edit: Literally just showed up in UPS. Next day air saver, so fingers crossed for Monday after all! If so, I'm taking that day off work to be here to receive it and to start getting familiar with it.
Edit: Literally just showed up in UPS. Next day air saver, so fingers crossed for Monday after all! If so, I'm taking that day off work to be here to receive it and to start getting familiar with it.
Awesome man! Are you a kickstarter backer?
plagiarize
Banned
Yes sirree! I was going to buy one anyways though.
Cool cool, hopefully earliest orders get tracking tomorrow so that the 28th is actually when lots of people get it.
I'm a #24 and you've made me hopeful that we won't be waiting another full week.
MiamiWesker
Member
So Oculus is almost here, I am wondering is there a huge beginners guide to VR. What programs should be downloaded. Where do I find all the non gaming VR stuff like virtual tours and rollercoasters. Where do I get my old games to become VR versions?
Basically I want all the stuff the DK guys have been seeing for years now. What should be the first VR experience us new guys have?
If there is a lot of info maybe we can put it into a new thread.
Basically I want all the stuff the DK guys have been seeing for years now. What should be the first VR experience us new guys have?
If there is a lot of info maybe we can put it into a new thread.
I'm replying to my own post to say that I saw in the following video that Oculus Cinema DOES support 3D movies (in actual 3D).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PVJpuNGIXM
So, I hope Sony does the same with PSVR. If anyone learns that it will, please let me know. Thanks.
RadicalVelocity
Member
I can't find it, so hopefully that means I misremembered or dreamed it.
Will the Thrill
Banned
So I'm a 32er, on the chart I saw it basically said I had a low chance at April. My shipping from way back on the 1st said I would be April, think it'll actually happen? I need itttttt, been three years since I tried the Dev Kit 1 at a Convention and that was already amazing.
plagiarize
Banned
You have to rip your Blu-Rays to play them in the theatre. I can't be bothered to do it, and I'm sure as shit not going to pirate 3D movies I own and risk getting sued. I guess you could SBS with Virtual Desktop though...
I got one and returned it in a day. Felt like cheap garbage.
Basically just go to the Oculus Home/Store for all Of that. It'll come with the Oculus app that should be available Monday.
For the older demos, Oculus Share, but there will also be a section on the store called Concepts that replaces Share. We don't know yet how much of the stuff on Share will end up on Concepts, some of it is running an older unsupported runtime.
Question about exclusivity stuff:
Are you going to be able to play the Aperture Science demo with an Oculus? Specifically the one where you need to reassemble that robot.
If you can't play that demo with an Oculus, why? Does it need room scale and/or those motion controllers?
Are you going to be able to play the Aperture Science demo with an Oculus? Specifically the one where you need to reassemble that robot.
If you can't play that demo with an Oculus, why? Does it need room scale and/or those motion controllers?
Compsiox
Banned
No and yes
Very well! I guess I'll finally watch that walkthrough now.
MiamiWesker
Member
You are telling me the official oculus store is going to have everything, I doubt that.
Iced_Eagle
Member
I wonder if Touch will be supported by Valve with OpenVR. If it does I don't see why it wouldn't be supported. Fantastic Contraption devs confirmed Touch can do room scale with opposing view points (but is more of a pain with needing USB extenders) and they are supporting that when they release the Oculus version.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Er...did you miss the part of their post discussing Oculus Share for older demos? It's been the hub for demos for years now. share.oculus.com. Keep in mind a lot of them won't work with the current sdk but sometimes you can still run a good number of them. Also www.wearvr.com has a bunch going back a ways, fast dls there too.