krypt0nian
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Graham McTavish is the most masculine piece of ass on earth in that picture.
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The Hobbit - Casting, Pre-production, Post-production News And Discussion
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So is there still talk about Bloom as Legolas? He wasn't in the original book, and if he's asking some crazy amount of money given his screentime and role in this one just let him go for crying out loud. He's been pretty much the weakest link in everything he's been in since LOTR (and there it was debatable).
I still remember following the preproduction, production, and postproduction of the LOTR trilogy for so long, it was almost deflating when ROTK finally released and suddenly there was nothing left to follow (aside from the EE of ROTK). This won't be quite that, but it's quite the feeling to be following the goings on of another Jackson-directed Tolkien film.
I still remember following the preproduction, production, and postproduction of the LOTR trilogy for so long, it was almost deflating when ROTK finally released and suddenly there was nothing left to follow (aside from the EE of ROTK). This won't be quite that, but it's quite the feeling to be following the goings on of another Jackson-directed Tolkien film.
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Wow, I had no idea there was this much info available about the film. Looks awesome.
Great to see McKellan back as Gandalf.
Great to see McKellan back as Gandalf.
They had a press conference here
http://www.3news.co.nz/The-Hobbit-m...video/tabid/312/articleID/198020/Default.aspx
With all the stars, awesome watch
also as part of the daily piece of "this film will never get made" news, they have been banned from using the mountain subbed as "Mount Doom" for the film :[
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011/02/12/42213-sacred-mountains-off-limits-to-hobbit-production/
http://www.3news.co.nz/The-Hobbit-m...video/tabid/312/articleID/198020/Default.aspx
With all the stars, awesome watch
also as part of the daily piece of "this film will never get made" news, they have been banned from using the mountain subbed as "Mount Doom" for the film :[
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011/02/12/42213-sacred-mountains-off-limits-to-hobbit-production/
Why would they need to film Mount Doom for the Hobbit?Mr Cola said:They had a press conference here
http://www.3news.co.nz/The-Hobbit-m...video/tabid/312/articleID/198020/Default.aspx
With all the stars, awesome watch
also as part of the daily piece of "this film will never get made" news, they have been banned from using the mountain subbed as "Mount Doom" for the film :[
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011/02/12/42213-sacred-mountains-off-limits-to-hobbit-production/
I am of the belief they are tieing up loose ends and trying to merge in some sense the films, given that spin it would stand to reason they would show it at some point, maybe the end of the second film.Branduil said:
AceBandage
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Couldn't they just reuse shots from the trilogy and CG it up?
I mean, if we can replace a human face over and old guy in Tron 2, we can make up a mountain.
I mean, if we can replace a human face over and old guy in Tron 2, we can make up a mountain.
PhoncipleBone
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Looking at the pics I just have this to say:
Martin Freeman is a perfect Bilbo.
James Nesbitt is awesome.
Aiden Turner has really bulked up since series 2 of Being Human.
Martin Freeman is a perfect Bilbo.
James Nesbitt is awesome.
Aiden Turner has really bulked up since series 2 of Being Human.
Flying_Phoenix
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AceBandage said:
Get that CG shit out of my Rings.
These films effects are nearly timeless due to the minimal use of CG outside of monsters.
Sure.GCX said:
Doesn't change the fact that the phrase "get that cg shit out of my rings" is utterly hilarious considering the volume of CG in the movies (and that it has some seriously egregious misuses of CG as well) and the movies got progressively more CG heavy as they went on, to say nothing about Peter Jacksons tendencies to use CG more and more as well.
I agree with both of you. LOTRO had extensive use of CG, but it also had extensive use of sets, props, and miniatures. The phrase "get that CG shit out of my rings" is indeed fairly laughable, given how CG-heavy the titles are. Probably half (or more) the shots in the entire trilogy have some form of CG.
But, that being said, the fact that Edoras, Hobbiton, and Minas Tirith existed as real, practical sets... the importance and value of this can't be overstated. The use of miniatures and sets instead of CG throughout the trilogy IMMEASURABLY upped their quality.
But, that being said, the fact that Edoras, Hobbiton, and Minas Tirith existed as real, practical sets... the importance and value of this can't be overstated. The use of miniatures and sets instead of CG throughout the trilogy IMMEASURABLY upped their quality.
PhoenixDark
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Dead said:
Agreed, but perhaps he meant the use of CG as a crutch. The film's effects work so well because they were used rather smartly; there aren't many "here's some folks in front of a green screen" shots. They actually went on location and got some beautiful shots, built towns/cities and then used CG to make them look even bigger.
ROTK has some of the worst effects in the series in part due to the increase in CG and green screen stuff. And as you said, Jackson has since become more dependent on CG. Given his friendly competition with washed up filmmakers like Cameron and Spielberg, I'd imagine The Hobbit will have a shit ton of unnecessary CG in an attempt to evolve the medium. Meh. I trust Jackson but this is just another area that has me wary.
SCULLIBUNDO
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PhoenixDark said:
I'll bite. Where has Cameron used CG unnecessarily and since when does one film make Spielberg washed up? I guess he was washed up after 1941 eh?
PhoenixDark
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Scullibundo said:
Not saying he has used it unnecessarily, I'm saying Jackson may want to do his own CG monstrosity given Avatar's impact; friendly competition to one up the current standard.
On Spielberg...Munich was the last good thing he did. He's been rather boring for a long ass time, and I see nothing on his horizon that'll change that. War Horse and Lincoln sound like they'll be typical Spielberg sentimental award fodder, not a fan of Tin Tin.
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PhoenixDark said:
He has directed one movie after Munich.
SCULLIBUNDO
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John Dunbar said:
Exactly. You do realize how silly you sound, don't you PD?
Discotheque
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War Horse sounds like shit but Tin Tin is gonna ROCK THE SHIT. Even if you're not a fan of the strips just look at the names involved: Steven Moffat, Edgar Wright, Simon Pegg/Nick Frost, Daniel Craig, Andy Serkis, John Williams, Jackson on production and Spielberg directing.
Nerdgasm
Not to mention last decade Spielberg made AI, Minority Report and Catch Me if You Can. I'm not a big fan of Munich but that was alright too.
And uh isn't Munich sentimental award fodder too? Why like that and dismiss Lincoln and War Horse? Flame me I'm off to bed brahs.
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Not to mention last decade Spielberg made AI, Minority Report and Catch Me if You Can. I'm not a big fan of Munich but that was alright too.
And uh isn't Munich sentimental award fodder too? Why like that and dismiss Lincoln and War Horse? Flame me I'm off to bed brahs.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Discotheque said:
Have you seen Munich?
Discotheque
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Yeah it's not bad, but I don't remember much from it. I haven't seen it in a while. But I find it strange that he's dismissing those other films as awards-bait when Munich could be classified as such too.
I'm sure I liked it, but if I liked it as much as the other films I mentioned then it would have left a greater impression on me. I'll probably do a mini-nu-Spielberg marathon as we get closer to TinTin release.
I'm sure I liked it, but if I liked it as much as the other films I mentioned then it would have left a greater impression on me. I'll probably do a mini-nu-Spielberg marathon as we get closer to TinTin release.
BattleMonkey
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Flying_Phoenix said:
wut? The LOTR films are filled with CG, and really it's one of it's weakest aspect. Even at release many of the CG shots were meh, and now they are pretty nasty looking.
Actually, Two Towers is filled shoddy with green screen footagePhoenixDark said:
ROTK and TTT dont look worse because they used more CG, they HAD to use it for what was being depicted (for the most part, dumb legolas scenes aside). They looked worse because the CG work wasn't up to par. If the movies were done by the WETA of today, the movies would all look on par with each other, regardless of which movie has more CG.
Your poor trolling aside, yes it is a given that The Hobbit will have more CG, but WETA are now a lot stronger at it than they were 10 years ago.
BattleMonkey
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WJD said:Holy crap Christopher Lee looks old now
Hes been very old for a long time now, but his health apparently isn't the best right now.
Discotheque
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The Wispy Scoundrel said:
I haven't seen his work? Adam and Joe show any good?
Don't tase me bro
SCULLIBUNDO
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Second ulcer incoming.
BruceLeeRoy
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Mr Cola said:
This is exactly what I think. PJ also made the reference to scenes helping with the continuity between the films.
BruceLeeRoy
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Dead said:
They really were doing the impossible with the LOTR. It was such a small team for the first movie and they constantly had to rise to the occasion though they were understaffed. One of my favorite parts on the extras section of the EE's is the story about how one of the chief animators came in over Christmas to make the destruction of Barad-dûr much more intense then it was originally. The whole scene with it falling in on itself and then blowing out before it hits the ground is one of my favorite scenes.
Now Weta is the studio that did Avatar and man what a leap between the two. Makes me ecstatic for what The Hobbit will bring.
Yeah, the Barad-dur destruction is incredible. I remember that part from the documentaries.
Im probably sounding too harsh on the CG, but the vast majority of it is incredible work. Weta have had the talent, but you can't forget that all 3 LOTR movie had the same budget as the last Pirates film did on its own. They werent working on mega budgets for each film.
Im probably sounding too harsh on the CG, but the vast majority of it is incredible work. Weta have had the talent, but you can't forget that all 3 LOTR movie had the same budget as the last Pirates film did on its own. They werent working on mega budgets for each film.
LegendofJoe
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The Hobbit is going to rock my world next year. It's going to be one of those rare occasions where you feel like you are walking on air the entire day before going to see it. It will take priority over everything in my life that day (and yes that includes eating, sleeping, and possibly breathing). The only thing that could prevent me from seeing this on release night would be the outbreak of World War 3.
BruceLeeRoy
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LegendofJoe said:
I know exactly what you mean. So appropriate since I haven't felt that way since the trilogy hit.
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Its unbelievable what they were able to accomplish. Remember that one part of the documentary when they are doing the effects work for Fellowship and before they were done with that and before they knew for sure that New Line would commit to a larger budget for the next two films they had to do preliminary work for Gollum and the whole team was just scared out of their minds.
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Scullibundo said:
I should have said it was the last good movie he's made in years. But whatever, you're a Spielberg apologist so this won't go anywhere.
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I wouldnt even mind if my cat would die that day ._.LegendofJoe said:
SCULLIBUNDO
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PhoenixDark said:
But movies take years to make. So to say he's been boring for a long ass time, when the movie before his last (just over 5 years ago) is you being either extremely stupid with your words or you acting like a troll.
Spielberg apologist = not discounting an entire filmography of seminal films based on the fact that his last film was disappointing? By your logic, everything he made after 1941 should be discounted.
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I don't think so. I enjoyed the LotR specials almost as much as the movies.WJD said:
(And I love the movies!)timetokill
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Good god I can't wait for this. I still remember, 10 years ago or whenever it was, being in a theatre to watch some movie. I had no idea Lord of the Rings was being made into a series of films (I wasn't obsessively online then). Anyway, the instant that trailer started for Fellowship, Bag End... it looked exactly right. It was like they had taken the image out of my head and put it onto the screen.
I really can't wait to see what they do with these films. The casting so far looks excellent. I can't wait to see that first trailer
I really can't wait to see what they do with these films. The casting so far looks excellent. I can't wait to see that first trailer
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