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[Felix Lighter]

I think that there were way more allies on the ships that Aragorn brought. Also, I think it is never explicitly stated that the ghost army killed anyone, they just routed the enemy and left the ships open. All of the people along the coast who had been held in defense from the corsairs followed behind and some manned the ships to go upriver to Minas Tirith with Aragorn (a few thousand) while others followed on foot and arrived a few days after the battle (a few more thousand). There is a more thorough count in the chapter "The Last Debate" iirc.

Yeah there were definitely more allies and more allies in the battle already but I was thinking about how they would change the movie in a way that would not require too many more characters to develop but at the same time make it more in line with the book.

200 extra Aragorns added to the battle could have been enough given how he's represented in the movies. Introduce a major Ranger character in the Fellowship of the ring, bring him back for the battle.

 

[Symphonic]

Just found out the IMAX 3D tickets I got aren't 48 fps.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Just found out the IMAX 3D tickets I got aren't 48 fps.

That's what Loblaw Gaffins hates!

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Here's the Smaug TV Spot I uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_ZT6NGd2k&list=UUHgCiVjYBHG6-tHjGQ8MsZQ

Hopefully this is the one?

Yes, that's the one.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Just found out the IMAX 3D tickets I got aren't 48 fps.

This is why I keep saying that this needs to be made clear in the OP or something so people don't get fucked over.

 

[maquiladora]

Just found out the IMAX 3D tickets I got aren't 48 fps.

Can't change them?

 

[TDK Rises]

Yes, that's the one.

Well done HobbitGaf!

 

[sc0la]

This is why I keep saying that this needs to be made clear in the OP or something so people don't get fucked over.

I am hoping there is some sort of intro for HFR like THX or something has, as a sort of dummy check.

I know there are people going who think they are going to 48 fps and getting 24 then saying "I couldn't even see a difference!" "Did you see the HFR intro?"

 

[Count Dookkake]

I am hoping there is some sort of intro for HFR like THX or something has, as a sort of dummy check.

I know there are people going who think they are going to 48 fps and getting 24 then saying "I couldn't even see a difference!" "Did you see the HFR intro?"

"Wii U? Isn't that an add-on for the Wii?"

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I am hoping there is some sort of intro for HFR like THX or something has, as a sort of dummy check.

I know there are people going who think they are going to 48 fps and getting 24 then saying "I couldn't even see a difference!" "Did you see the HFR intro?"

I'm hoping there is an intro before the HFR screenings so the opposite doesn't happen where we have people who had no idea they booked a HFR screening yelling at the projectionist because it looks different.

 

[Karma Kramer]

Here's the Smaug TV Spot I uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_ZT6NGd2k&list=UUHgCiVjYBHG6-tHjGQ8MsZQ

Hopefully this is the one?

juicy

 

[maquiladora]

I am hoping there is some sort of intro for HFR like THX or something has, as a sort of dummy check.

I know there are people going who think they are going to 48 fps and getting 24 then saying "I couldn't even see a difference!" "Did you see the HFR intro?"

From the reactions to it we've heard so far, I don't think anybody with eyes will come out saying they didn't see a difference.

 

[kingocfs]

Here's the Smaug TV Spot I uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_ZT6NGd2k&list=UUHgCiVjYBHG6-tHjGQ8MsZQ

Hopefully this is the one?

Nice job, thanks for this. Some beautiful looking stuff in there.

 

[sc0la]

From the reactions to it we've heard so far, I don't think anybody with eyes will come out saying they didn't see a difference.

I am saying people will see 24fps, be misinformed about what they saw, and say there was no difference.

Edit: basically I am anticipating some significant segment of people seeng the 24 fps 3D or IMAX 3D and think they saw HFR

 

[maquiladora]

I don't know how all you guys are looking at all these TV spots. Don't you want to see these visuals for the first time on the big screen?

 

[Altazor]

Here's the Smaug TV Spot I uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_ZT6NGd2k&list=UUHgCiVjYBHG6-tHjGQ8MsZQ

Hopefully this is the one?

 

[Moaradin]

Here's the Smaug TV Spot I uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_ZT6NGd2k&list=UUHgCiVjYBHG6-tHjGQ8MsZQ

Hopefully this is the one?

Excellent. Now we just need a HD version of this.

Spoiler

Or better yet, trailer #3.

 

[maquiladora]

I am saying people will see 24fps, be misinformed about what they saw, and say there was no difference.

Ah ok, yeah I can see that happening. It's something new and experimental though, so there is bound to be some amount of confusion and lessons will be learned.

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

I don't know how all you guys are looking at all these TV spots. Don't you want to see these visuals for the first time on the big screen?

Yeah, I've gone into media lockdown mode. I want the cinema to be the first time I watch any of these scenes.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Oh man if this movie is awesome the wait for EE and second film is gonna kill me. I guess EE will release just before the next movie like with LOTR. I wonder how it will work with the second and third films.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I don't know how all you guys are looking at all these TV spots. Don't you want to see these visuals for the first time on the big screen?

Seriously. I'm pissed that I even know who

Spoiler

Smaug

is, let alone

Spoiler

that he's in Part 1

now.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Big LOTR fan...but the more I see of this, the least hyped I am. It looks like the Star Wars prequels to me. Lots of obvious green screen, weird lighting...bleh. I thought The Hobbit was a fun book but it's far from an epic tale deserving of three 2 1/2 hr films. I'll still see it, and I suppose I should be glad it doesn't seem like Jackson has simply turned The Hobbit into LOTR (the novels couldn't be more different), but I'm still hesitant.

 

[Felix Lighter]

I don't think that's such a bad thing to know. He would have been brought up in the first 20-30min of the movie. I'm trying to think if they ever mentioned him in the LotR movies.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I don't think that's such a bad thing to know. He would have been brought up in the first 20-30min of the movie. I'm trying to think if they ever mentioned him in the LotR movies.

Gandalf does right at the beginning in FOTR.

 

[ascii42]

Gandalf does right at the beginning in FOTR.

Right, "the incident with the dragon"

That's a spectacular way of putting it.

 

[Ainaurdur]

Right, "the incident with the dragon"

That's a spectacular way of putting it.

Well whatever you did, you have officially been labelled "disturber of the peace".

 

[Karma Kramer]

I watched the FOTR last night and was surprised how dated the CG looked.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Yeah, I was trying to remember if they mentioned him by name but he was definitely at least alluded to.

I watched the FOTR last night and was surprised how dated the CG looked.

The scenes in Bag End with Gandalf and Bilbo in the same shot are not so convincing anymore. Seemed perfect years ago. This was only the second time I watched it on Blu Ray, though.

Also, there is a scene early on where the camera swings around some CG ruins on a hill top while the hobbits and Aragorn walk by. That looked particularly fake.

 

[maquiladora]

Also, there is a scene early on where the camera swings around some CG ruins on a hill top while the hobbits and Aragorn walk by. That looked particularly fake.

Yeah that one stands out to me too. Also digital double Legolas in Balin's tomb.

Have to remember it was 11 years ago though.

 

[Altazor]

Also, there is a scene early on where the camera swings around some CG ruins on a hill top while the hobbits and Aragorn walk by. That looked particularly fake.

this one?

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

The CG also took an incredible leap from FOTR to TTT. They would never have been able to pull off Gollum in FOTR, but he was fantastic in TTT. And the Battle at Helm's Deep wouldn't have looked nearly as good either. FOTR was just the practice round for the CG folks.

 

[Felix Lighter]

this one?

No not Weathertop. A little before that scene.

 

[Altazor]

No not Weathertop. A little before that scene.

oh, ok, I think I know what you mean but I just can't picture it in my head, damn.

 

[Jacob]

Here's the Smaug TV Spot I uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_ZT6NGd2k&list=UUHgCiVjYBHG6-tHjGQ8MsZQ

Hopefully this is the one?

First I've seen of that, thanks for uploading it!

 

[Neffarias_Bredd]

Here's the Smaug TV Spot I uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_ZT6NGd2k&list=UUHgCiVjYBHG6-tHjGQ8MsZQ

Hopefully this is the one?

Just saw this on tv. Looks great

 

[maquiladora]

oh, ok, I think I know what you mean but I just can't picture it in my head, damn.

 

[Felix Lighter]

That's the one. Gandalf is there, so I guess I remembered wrong, it was after Rivendell.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Right, "the incident with the dragon"

That's a spectacular way of putting it.

Yeah. Even Thorin gets a mention in FOTR.

The Balins tomb scene has more impact just because of his small appearances in trailers. Seems to be such a likeable dwarf .

 

[Altazor]

That's the one. Gandalf is there, so I guess I remembered wrong, it was after Rivendell.

just watched the scene and you're absolutely right - it does look fake

man, I can't believe I never noticed!

EDIT: same scene, bridge crossing leaving Rivendell also looks fake. Some of the CGI hasn't aged very well indeed

 

[Gozer the Gozerian]

Boy I can't wait for the Lord of the Rings: Special Edition re-release ten years down the road.

 

[maquiladora]

EDIT: same scene, bridge crossing leaving Rivendell also looks fake. Some of the CGI hasn't aged very well indeed

Crazy talk, that still looks great.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Only CGI that looks ugly to me is Legolas in Balins tomb and one of the fireworks at Bilbos party. Overall I think it has aged very well for such an old film.

 

[RadioactiveLobster]

Boy I can't wait for the Lord of the Rings: Special Edition re-release ten years down the road.

Will that be the one where they add a bunch of characters in the background of shots for no apparent reason and make it so Dead Army no longer look like they did in the original movie but are actually now replaced via CGI with a younger looking actor?

 

[Rootbeer]

I wonder if Peter shot any scenes to be recut into LotR at a later date? Can you imagine if they decided to do the whole Tom Bombadil thing after all this time? It's totally something they could do in the next round of shooting. Or they could add some stuff with Radagast & Gandalf... lots of options actually.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I wonder if Peter shot any scenes to be recut into LotR at a later date? Can you imagine if they decided to do the whole Tom Bombadil thing after all this time? It's totally something they could do in the next round of shooting. Or they could add some stuff with Radagast & Gandalf... lots of options actually.

I dunno where they would fit him lol. Redone CGI I could see.

Also the biggest dilemma of our time: to replace Ian with Martin in the prologue or not.

 

[RadioactiveLobster]

I dunno where they would fit him lol. Redone CGI I could see.

Also the biggest dilemma of our time: to replace Ian with Martin in the prologue or not.

The kept Ian Holm for the beginning of The Hobbit so I doubt they'd ever replace him with Martin for anything in LOTR

 

[Napalm_Frank]

The kept Ian Holm for the beginning of The Hobbit so I doubt they'd ever replace him with Martin for anything in LOTR

I mean the scene in the FOTR where young Bilbo picks up the ring in Gollums cave.

 

[Kud Dukan]

If we want to talk about changing things from the original trilogy, they should start with this:

 

[RadioactiveLobster]

I mean the scene in the FOTR where young Bilbo picks up the ring in Gollums cave.

That actually make sense to me now that I think about it. It's the only scene in the LOTR Trilogy that would make sense to change, everything else Ian Holm is already perfect for.

 

[Rootbeer]

I mean the scene in the FOTR where young Bilbo picks up the ring in Gollums cave.

I really love that scene but it would be a very easy choice to replace.

I wonder if, in The Hobbit Pt. 1, Peter will replicate that shot exactly (same angle, same dialog "What's this?", etc.) for the sake of consistency, or if it will be its own thing?