Count Dookkake
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Still hopeful I see.You think Harry was trolling?
He's done it other films, including the LOTR trilogy.
We'll see!
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The Hobbit - Official Thread of Officially In Production
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He's done it other films, including the LOTR trilogy.
We'll see!
I just listened to the first part of the soundtrack 'My Dear Frodo'.
I have avoided everything Hobbit related in the past few months, i.e. pictures, production videos, interviews, everything, because I easily get saturated by this sort of stuff and I wanted the movies to be something special. But goddamn, I am so ready now! Another journey to Middlearth and everything that goes with it. Can't believe I'll experience this again.
Fond memories arise from the time of Lord of the Rings, the movies and then later the Special Extended Editions. Watching them three, four times and finding new details everytime. Endless discussion with friends over this scene and that scene and what they mean etc. 6 hours of production videos for each movie and even those I have already watched at least three times. Truly epic.
I have my reservations regarding 3D, 48fps etc. but I'm no doubt in for a treat as far as story and emotions go that were created in LotR.
I have avoided everything Hobbit related in the past few months, i.e. pictures, production videos, interviews, everything, because I easily get saturated by this sort of stuff and I wanted the movies to be something special. But goddamn, I am so ready now! Another journey to Middlearth and everything that goes with it. Can't believe I'll experience this again.
Fond memories arise from the time of Lord of the Rings, the movies and then later the Special Extended Editions. Watching them three, four times and finding new details everytime. Endless discussion with friends over this scene and that scene and what they mean etc. 6 hours of production videos for each movie and even those I have already watched at least three times. Truly epic.
I have my reservations regarding 3D, 48fps etc. but I'm no doubt in for a treat as far as story and emotions go that were created in LotR.
maniac-kun
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Gonna rewatch all EE movies in the next 3 days.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
EMPIRE: Counting down the days to the release of The Hobbit - one Dwarf at a time.
http://www.empireonline.com/features/hobbit-dwarf-interviews
http://www.empireonline.com/features/hobbit-dwarf-interviews
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Gollum
I'm not quite sure if I
I'm not quite sure if I
want to see more of Gollum than in the Riddles in the Dark scene. He has his part to play as do other characters who are pretty much obstacles in the way of Bilbo and company. Once overcome we see nothing more of them as the narrative progresses, but it's the implications of their deaths/defeats that adds to and continues the narrative.
started 2 days ago. man, some of the effects in two towers did not age well, at all. gollum looked far worse than i remembered.
maniac-kun
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Edmond Dantès;44985572 said:
My guess is that they will include Gandalfs and Aragorns hunt for Gollum in the second or third film.
I still love Gollum
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
My guess is that they will include Gandalfs and Aragorns hunt for Gollum in the second or third film.
I still love Gollum
But Aragorn would be either 27 or 10 depending on what timeline they use and recasting Aragorn isn't something I expect to happen.
That makes sense, or it could be Elrond who also goes exploring with Gandalf as it looks like Radagast goes off to Dol Guldur in the 'Smaug' TV spot by himself.
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Gollumn should have never been so CG to begin with. Makes him feel like Roger Rabbit when he's around. The ring made his eyes four times bigger, really? He looks like a cartoon.
However many hundreds of years Gollum spent living underground is what made his eyes larger, I thought. The ring prolonged his life, and him moving underground is what caused a lot of his physical changes as his body adapted to his environment.
I adore Andy Serkis's performance and the movie Gollum is perfect at what it is but I never found him scary (outside of the scene in ROTK showing him crawling into the Misty Mountains and eating that fish, ironically one of the few parts where Serkis played gollum with just makeup). The book gollum was far more scary and less comic relief. I prefer book gollum in that way.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I always assumed his eyes stayed as they were and his head started shrinking with time.
Edmond Dantès;44985913 said:
Assuming it is indeed
Radagast hunting down Gollum with Gandalf it helps give him a purpose in the war of the ring to fulfill his destiny instead of being a full on failure.
His eyes look a lot bigger than Frodo and Sam's. Gollum is a hobbit after all.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
The depiction of Gollum in The Hobbit (1977) is also quite unnerving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLssei0sId0
Oh man, I am re-watching the commentaries and I am on TTT right now. Peter Jackson joked that since New Line only has the rights to LOTR and no other books if they wanted to make more money they should have made him shoot even more footage so they would have to have more than 3 films to adapt the 3 books.
maquiladora
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There are guild screenings of The Hobbit today in LA, with no embargo.
The original Hobbit animated film has really impacted the way I picture The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings in my head when I read them. I always picture Bilbo more like he did in this animated film, and I always hear John Huston as Gandalf in my head.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Yes, in some capacity.
He's the narrator.
Edmond Dantès;44988053 said:
Cheers
Can't even tell if this shit is serious. Maybe I should have read the Hobbit.
StealthGoblin
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He's an intrusive narrator. Even inserts himself into the story on more than one occasion.
Felix Lighter
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Gollum in the Hobbit
I imagine him being a more confident and menacing Gollum. From the bit I've seen from Serkis's performance, I don't think he's going to make any drastic changes but it could have been interesting.
could have been played differently than Gollum of the LotR. He has the ring (or at least thinks he does for the majority of his part), he hasn't been beaten and tortured in Mordor and he hasn't been captured by Aragorn.
maquiladora
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First reactions from the screening in LA today.
Edit : So far, so good.
Edit : So far, so good.
Fix The Scientist
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Way back when they announced the "bridge film" this is what i wanted to see most. They have 10 weeks of extra filming next year so there's still hope i guess. a fool's hope.
No way it will be Aragorn though, that is why the rumors are saying it will be Radagast, Aragorn will be too young in these films for it since there is no longer a bridge film and all the extended material takes place within the time period of the Hobbit.
The best part about these reactions is that, even if they didn't like the 48fps, they still loved the film. Hopefully that's a sign that the varying reaction to the HFR won't have a negative impact on how the film is perceived.
maquiladora
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Yep, I'm feeling less worried now. If there has been a negative reaction from this screening I haven't seen it yet.
Fix The Scientist
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True but they could still fudge it and sneak him in, they've made bigger changes before. Aragorn mentions that he's 87 in the two towers extended edition.
Meaning he would be about 20 in this. Viggo doesn't look 20.
if they were recasting Aragon we'd know it by now. The radagast rumor seems to add up.Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
That's where the confusion starts. In the book Gandalf goes off on a quest for information after the initial meeting with Frodo, visits intermittently over the years then disappears altogether, by the time he reunites with Frodo 17 years have passed. That isn't the case in the film where it seems like he went off for a few months, maybe a year, but certainly not 17 years.
Going by the legendarium, Aragorn is 10 during the events of The Hobbit.
He still looks pretty good except for where he touches the environment. When he grabs the hobbit's clothes and things like that it looks pretty bad.
There is a lapse between when Bilbo leaves and gives him the ring and when Gandalf comes to tell him, but that's portrayed in the movie.
In the movie it comes across as mere months or even weeks. In the book 17 years pass.
Oops. Actually, I meant between when Gandalf tells him that it's Sauron's ring and when he leaves. I seem to recall Frodo bumbling around for a little while.
Dreamwriter
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From what I've seen in the trailer, he is playing it differently. This is a much more cheerful Gollum, happy to have someone to talk to after years alone in the dark - it's not the whiney sycophantic fake cheerfullness from the LotR movies. And you can bet he'll get far more menacing before the end.
Watching that, I just noticed a rather large flaw - the ring is decorated! This is a fancy ring, not the plain, unadorned band decribed in LotR. The animators should have done a bit more research...Edmond Dantès;44986456 said:
This is true.
You're right, I just got my copy out and it's about 2 to 3 weeks between Gandalf and Frodo and Sam setting off. Honestly it strikes me as a bit odd they waited so long so I can't say I mind the speed up.
maquiladora
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I didn't know there was going to be one, but I guessed there might be from the sound of the first track on the OST.
Not looking at any TV spots.
Dreamwriter
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Oh yeah, it's definitely months at that point - in the book, Frodo doesn't want to just vanish or be seen suddenly leaving by the other hobbitfolk, so as not to lead any followers to him. He sets up this whole story explaining how he's moving out away from town to the edge of the forest - he sells Bag End and much of its goods, and even buys a house. This isn't a last-minute hurried leave in fear like in the movie, but a well planned trip attempting to hide his tracks. And if I remember right, it's in these months that Merry, Pippin, and Sam have a little conspiracy to figure out what's going on and decide to join Frodo on his adventure.
There is some one saying
"The dragon is back", Gandalf perhaps?
the glimpse of a dragon in the two most recent spots is indeed Smaug, and not some other random dragon from the Withered Heath.
It looks to be
from the prologue showing the initial attack to me.
the way he (and other cg animals/creatues) are placd in the environment looks very bad. in most scenes, they look like they just dont belong there. two towers has a lot of bad cg, compared to fellowship and rotk. watching rotk now, and the cg stuff is improved so much (gollum, compositing) compared to tt.
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