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The Joanna Dark Collection

Hitler Stole My Potato said:
Update: The images have been removed at Microsoft's request.


These images were removed by their request? What about the ones from 1up?

I just don't understand MS sometimes.
It's a little late (when compared to what Tecmo did with Dead or Alive 4). But it proves that those pictures weren't damage control by Microsoft. I will miss teh boobies; but you probably still can/will find them on Jeux-France website...
 
That's really weird.. I thought the NDAs had expired and it was okay to show those pics? Unless I'm missing something here.
 
I don't have the details about these images, so I just can guess that these were only meant for internal release and should not have been made public. Or maybe they will be officially posted on monday and some sites bitched because they were under NDA and could not post them before that. Since MS France kept me completely in the dark, I just can't know what I'm allowed to post or not...
I guess I'll know more tomorrow.
 
So things are looking up for X360 yeah? First that awful looking Namco game seems much better when you see it in video form and now PD0 might turn out to be much better looking than what was on the MTV special.

Will MS blow us away at E3 after all? Or will the bitter taste of disappointment linger?
 
Jacobi said:
Maybe there's just a huge leap between sP and mP.
The leap isnt that huge I think, but yes those probably are MP and SP screens we saw. And I think thats about what PD0 will deliver, they wont be able to do any miracles in the next 6 month (beta phase probably in 3 month)
 
Hitler Stole My Potato said:
Update: The images have been removed at Microsoft's request.


These images were removed by their request? What about the ones from 1up?

I just don't understand MS sometimes.

I was just about to post that. WTF is wrong with them? Seriously.
 
Pedigree Chum said:
I was just about to post that. WTF is wrong with them? Seriously.
The latest Joanna shot sure looks wrong...in style, in proportions etc.

It feels like some Rare member couldnt stand how PD0 gets dissed and leaked some single player shots, a cutscene shot and an dismissed concept render to impress us.
 
quetz67 said:
The latest Joanna shot sure looks wrong...in style, in proportions etc.

It feels like some Rare member couldnt stand how PD0 gets dissed and leaked some single player shots, a cutscene shot and an dismissed concept render to impress us.


Yeah. That's it.


*insert huge rolling eyes*
 
Shogmaster said:
Now, according to the Rare guys interviewed in the the MTV special, they mention that the characters are going to have around 5000 polygons (50 players max in LIVE! multiplayer). These chaps doesn't quite look 5000 polys to me, but these chaps do. And I don't see anything in the new shots that look CG beyond realtime. It just looks like the older build is void of any good lighting and the new shots have good lighting. I think in November, we'll be playing multiplayer and single player PD0 that look like the second shot.

But 50x5000 is still only 15 million polys per second. + 6m for the backgrounds is about 21 million per second. Thats still shit. Multiplayer doesn't explain the polycounts. Shaders, sure, but not the base counts.

And it also doesn't explain why many of these shots show what seem to be completely different Joannas.
 
mrklaw said:
But 50x5000 is still only 15 million polys per second. + 6m for the backgrounds is about 21 million per second. Thats still shit. Multiplayer doesn't explain the polycounts. Shaders, sure, but not the base counts.

First, the background can be much as 21m/s. So total could be up to 36m/s in the build in question. And it's not even done yet. Remember that for first gen games like this, it's alot of guesswork until you have the final dev kit with the final chips. The interview in the MTV special could have been taped months ago. Things probably changed after they recieved the R500 equipped dev kit.

Also, since the R500 has unified shaders, they could be spending most of them on pixel shaders instead of vertex shading in the rev we saw. Certainly that one shot of new Joanna in the sunlight that people are calling a render could be such a case. The lighting on that's gorgeous, as was the new marching blue soldiers shot.

And it also doesn't explain why many of these shots show what seem to be completely different Joannas.

That supports the theory that after getting R500 dev kits, the target has changed.
 
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