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[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

perfect dark shouldn't be an immersive sim in the first place.

Man do I miss the Rareware-style mission-based shooters. And TimeSplitters was a solid B+ version of those games. Why can't FPSes play like that anymore?

It's weird no one wants to bring back the Goldeneye style FPS, even the Timesplitters reboot was canceled, that's a huge niche waiting to be filled.

 

[Connificent]

She isnt AI?

 

[kevboard]

It's weird no one wants to bring back the Goldeneye style FPS, even the Timesplitters reboot was canceled, that's a huge niche waiting to be filled.

yup. TimeSplitters 2 was the last really good one... even TimeSplitters 3 went into a more streamlined direction with way more linear missions, basically taking inspiration from stuff like Medal of Honor at the time.

Perfect Dark Zero could have been really good with a few tweaks. that would be the perfect game for Nightdive to remake imo. actually fixing a rough diamond instead of just remaking or remastering an already beloved game.

 

[rkofan87]

The game I REALLY DID NOT want to see get cancelled


Wtf MS?

same but they keep fable f that.

 

[rkofan87]

Was literally the ONLY reason I was holding on to my Series X, along with E-Day.

Now one gets cancelled and the other is coming to PS5. LOL.

I already sold it after I figured everything would be on PS5.

But man, sucks. What a fucking waste of time for everyone working on it. Can you even put it on your resume? You have nothing to show. Fuck Microsoft.

e day might die as well

 

[kiphalfton]

Pics of actress?

Depending on how attractive she is, begging may work

 

[Heisenberg007]

Fans have no idea wtf they'd be saving.

Exactly. It's not like fans know exactly what kind of game it wa shaping up to be and has already seen hours of footage.

At this point, it is just an actor trying to save her job using "fans."

 

[Represent.]

e day might die as well

Nah, if it's good, it being on PS5 will give that franchise new life

 

[Connificent]

It's weird no one wants to bring back the Goldeneye style FPS, even the Timesplitters reboot was canceled, that's a huge niche waiting to be filled.

 

[rkofan87]

Exactly. It's not like fans know exactly what kind of game it wa shaping up to be and has already seen hours of footage.

At this point, it is just an actor trying to save her job using "fans."

this but i respect the hustle

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

No one wants to play as that dude with the Joey Chestnut chin.

 

[Brakum]

Immersive Sims are not attractive to young kids these days except for some of us adults. Doubt it'll get saved.

The modern audiences argument is bullshit. Any good game will sell.

Crpgs dont sell, until someone made baldurs gate 3.

Turn based games dont sell. Expedition 33.

Anime graphics are too niche. Until china started making games and now some of the most popular games on the market have anime art styles.

 

[TexMex]

Well since she asked I will now save Perfect Dark brb

 

[semiconscious]

Because they hate their audience and want to thwart the male gaze.

I suppose this "modern audience" like uggos.

these people have lost the plot. they're maybe best described by criswell, in night of the ghouls: 'monsters to be pitied! monsters to be despised!'...

 

[Dacvak]

Been playing the OG Perfect Dark on the Switch for the last couple weeks. The first time in decades I've played it.

Aside from some unconventional controls and the god awful held-frame blur, it holds up insanely well. That game is so huge and creative, and the guns are outrageous.

FARSIGHT XR-20, BABY

 

[Kokoloko85]

Use that sharp chin to threaten them with….

 

[Moses85]

 

[Odinnii]

I rather this whole project gets sent to the shadow realm and whoever tries to revive the PD games starts from scratch
Nothing about this game looked good at all

 

[peish]

Immersive Sims are not attractive to young kids these days except for some of us adults. Doubt it'll get saved.

That is the problem here. If leaks are true, that the vertical slice is fully scripted, faked ass immersive gameplay, the developers failed hard after 7 years.

What makes you think it wont take another 7 years?

I agree we need more immersive, emergent gameplay in our action games. But The Initiatives could not deliver.

 

[Sorcerer]

edit

 

[JerryinSoCal]

The IP was NEVER popular enough to warrant opening a new studio to revive it in the first place.

 

[samoilaaa]

Fucking hell, if they had modeled the in-game Joanna to the actress..

Maybe the feedback metrics from the trailer would have kept the fucking game alive!

yup

 

[sono]

Good for her.

Listening to what customers want?
What a novel idea

 

[clem84]

I kid I kid. I actually want to see this game made.

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

Is there a petition I can sign? By that I mean a petition that would require Microsoft to delete any work that's been done on the game to ensure it never sees the light of day. 1 million EU signatures is it?

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

The game from MS I was looking forward to the most. I don't have faith they're going to release a good new PD game, ever.

 

[Hudo]

Fucking hell, if they had modeled the in-game Joanna to the actress..

Maybe the feedback metrics from the trailer would have kept the fucking game alive!

Man... they did her dirty. The cancellation was deserved.

 

[Robb]

If it got canned I'm not sure it's worth saving.

I still want to see a return of the franchise though. Maybe someday.

 

[SamuraiEdge]

After 7 years? Nope, you had many chances and opportunities with talent that a lot of game devs would have loved (especially in California land). You reap what you sow.

 

[Phobos Base]

Man... they did her dirty. The cancellation was deserved.

You're only allowed to use their likeness if it's a man, or Viola Davis

 

[CGNoire]

Immersive Sims are not attractive to young kids these days except for some of us adults. Doubt it'll get saved.

Since when is Perfect Dark an Immersive sim?

 

[SkylineRKR]

Not in this uglified state, no.

They had nothing to work it after many years and a collab. PD though existing only out of 2 games and one being horrible, is apparently a franchise people will want to see going. I get the hook, its a bit like female Bond, or NOLF. But they had nothing but a vertical slice after 7 years. Its better to axe it. Perhaps the IP should be sold off.

 

[Connificent]

Been playing the OG Perfect Dark on the Switch for the last couple weeks. The first time in decades I've played it.

Aside from some unconventional controls and the god awful held-frame blur, it holds up insanely well. That game is so huge and creative, and the guns are outrageous.

FARSIGHT XR-20, BABY

Shouldve played it on Xbox. Modern controls, 60fps 1080p

 

[chromatic9]

Best wait for AI to come up with something using this render as a base.

 

[Disco Dave]

Ms Dark has certainly earned she/her place in the DEI chin hall of fame…

 

[SJRB]

Love how her jaw is 3 times larger than Adam Jensen's jawline.

You're not gonna rally the troops with a design like that.

 

[phant0m]

Good Lord, I never actually considered this. That really may be the greatest run of any generation.

The only one that comes to mind that's close is Rockstar on PS2:

• GTA Trilogy
• Manhunt 1/2
• Bully
• Red Dead Revolver
• Midnight Club Trilogy
• GTA LC/VC Stories

 

[PeteBull]

it's never been easier, technically, to do so. so wtf is this all about?...

Its about wokeness, bro, they cant make femine sexy looking protag coz that would enrage the feminists, hence the manly jaw on cacelled perfect dark game protag
There was a reason fable protag looks like a nightmare too, and its not microsoft only that pushes this agenda, we had so many examples, to not look far we all remember DA:Veilguard flop with terrible looking characters(it had tons more problems but how the characters looked was the thing u could see right away xD ).

 

[Strider7]

Ms Dark has certainly earned she/her place in the DEI chin hall of fame…

Jesus. They really went out of their way to make them fucking hideous, didn't they?

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

Is the one on the bottom left real?

 

[PeteBull]

Is the one on the bottom left real?

Dont remember that particular one but something tells me it looks like either starfield or outher worlds character rofl, i think its all in those dead eyes
Edit: Yups it was starfield after all, this kind of ugly doesnt come around often

 

[SJRB]

Is the one on the bottom left real?

Yeah it's a Starfield NPC. That game is littered with horrendous looking characters.

 

[Wildebeest]

The game had some good ambition but there wasn't really trust that the people involved could deliver.

 

[Shockwave_Fox]

Jesus the size of that chin....... I bet her necks got more core strength than my stomach.

 

[Jesb]

It's not gonna happen. As special as the game was to me it came out TWENTY-FIVE years ago and the only we got since was a very mediocre sequel.

I'm just glad we were able to get it included in NSO and I can play with my Switch N64 controller.

If I'm really honest, the IP itself wasn't even that special, the team at Rare was. Their N64 run was insane, and imo probably one of the greatest ever on a single system:

• Goldeneye 007
• Diddy Kong Racing
• Banjo-Kazooie
• Jet Force Gemini
• Donkey Kong 64
• Perfect Dark
• Conker's Bad Fur Day

This was in 4 years, 1997-2001.

Pretty ridiculous run. Would be impossible to replicate in today's industry. Anyone know what the dev's in those days are doing now?

 

[MagiusNecros]

It's weird no one wants to bring back the Goldeneye style FPS, even the Timesplitters reboot was canceled, that's a huge niche waiting to be filled.

Indie scene will provide once again. Demo available. Likely a 2026 release.

I'd personally prefer if they just started over and made a proper sequel to Perfect Dark 64 since the game is a fast paced espionage FPS and both Zero and the fake game were much slower paced. I don't think anything really tops it. One of a kind.

 

[alienator]

why would we gamers try and save this game?

 

[L*][*N*K]

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

The words "resilient" and "strong" applied to a female MC are gigantic red flags. This better stay buried.

 

[IDKFA]

"Agent Dark doesn't give up and neither should any of you.... like Joanna, we will all rise again."

Cringe. I felt second hand embarrassment from reading that. I now hope the game stays dead.