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The King Of Fighters XIII Hype
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atomiswave
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SAB CA said:
I was never able to play 2002UM since its only Japanese....but Neowave is basically a fixed up 2002. So I can see them being similar in a way.
But yeah, I'm sure the filter doesn't look its best when in still screens, but looks good in motion, which is what the game's sprites emphasize besides detail (otherwise it would be blazblue).
Honestly, the high res screens look great to me, and I'm sure the home port will have even better filters and/or the original look too (tho apparently it might look messy).
Fersis said:
Then take solace... that equally pervy things probably happen to a majority of the girls, throughout the cellphone games. XD But hey, that's Japan for ya! (-_-
But through the power of fan creations, we can see Takuma lose his shirt, too!
(Link for oversized gif here)
(Credits for finding fanwork to fiol on SRK)
As cool as heading in that direction woulda been... I love what SNKP has done with Takuma. They've made a much more unique, closer-to-the-inspiration version of him, and I think what they did takes more guts.
Note that Takuma could beat the absolute hell out of Ryu. :lol
Yup i know that theres a market for that.SAB CA said:Then take solace... that equally pervy things probably happen to a majority of the girls, throughout the cellphone games. XD But hey, that's Japan for ya! (-_-
Finaika
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Looks like his Art of Fighting 2 sprite in HD, but I prefer SNKP's one by a mile, its more bold.SAB CA said:But through the power of fan creations, we can see Takuma lose his shirt, too!
(Link for oversized gif here)
(Credits for finding fanwork to fiol on SRK)
As cool as heading in that direction woulda been... I love what SNKP has done with Takuma. They've made a much more unique, closer-to-the-inspiration version of him, and I think what they did takes more guts.
Note that Takuma could beat the absolute hell out of Ryu. :lol
I'm happy for a reinvented Takuma also. One of my regrets about this new KOF direction was that they didn't reinvent as many chars as they could have. For every Ralf and Chin who got sent in a whole new direction, they just copy and pasted movelists for chars like Andy and Kyo.
What makes it worse is the chars they revamped, except for Duo Lon, tended to be the chars I liked the old movelists for. I loved being able to do crap like Chin cr.C, hit behind me (or beat out a Larf Kick), then DM. That ability went away in UM though- they nerfed that normal hard.
This is what got me loving KOF- all the weird stuff you could do, that there wasn't really an equivalent in SF for. Ever since getting into KOF around 2002-2003 or so, I've never even been able to appreciate SF all that much.
What makes it worse is the chars they revamped, except for Duo Lon, tended to be the chars I liked the old movelists for. I loved being able to do crap like Chin cr.C, hit behind me (or beat out a Larf Kick), then DM. That ability went away in UM though- they nerfed that normal hard.
This is what got me loving KOF- all the weird stuff you could do, that there wasn't really an equivalent in SF for. Ever since getting into KOF around 2002-2003 or so, I've never even been able to appreciate SF all that much.
TreIII said:
Of course! He single-handedly deflected the Zero Cannon in KOF2000:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAzlVHVov1E
SephirothRK
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Eiji said:
after all these years I played KOF 2000, I never did watch the endings. That was good.:lol
It's nice seeing so many prefer SNKP's Takuma; It's good to see a solid, yet different design get proper appreciation!
It'd be so great to see new Takuma fight "Boring Ryu" in another crossover game... The one who single handedly defelcted a beam meant to destroy a town with Shi-koken, VS the guy who Shoryuken's waterfalls in his spare time...
After that last Arcadia Tournament vid, I wonder if he'll end up being the master of insane ground control, or if they'll tone him down any before the full release? Combo->Short Range Fireball->Combo looked so potentially broken! :lol I really like the idea though, if they can keep it balanced.
Everytime I think of anything AoF related, I start humming Todoh's stage theme in AoF 1... wow, I kinda wanna play some AoF 1 now... love PS2 collection disk! ^_^
It'd be so great to see new Takuma fight "Boring Ryu" in another crossover game... The one who single handedly defelcted a beam meant to destroy a town with Shi-koken, VS the guy who Shoryuken's waterfalls in his spare time...
After that last Arcadia Tournament vid, I wonder if he'll end up being the master of insane ground control, or if they'll tone him down any before the full release? Combo->Short Range Fireball->Combo looked so potentially broken! :lol I really like the idea though, if they can keep it balanced.
Everytime I think of anything AoF related, I start humming Todoh's stage theme in AoF 1... wow, I kinda wanna play some AoF 1 now... love PS2 collection disk! ^_^
Choppasmith
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I still think it'd be awesome if we got a XII-styled SvC Chaos remake/sequel. Combine the rosters from Chaos and MotM and it would be easy to reuse the characters in XIII. Adding a Tengu mask to Takuma, I'd love to play as his Mr. Karate incarnation again (when I see his XIII self, I think he's ALMOST as badass as his Serious Mr. Karate incarnation).
Cant's leave GAF out of the new info and... wait, we can't post scans here, can we? DOH!
Ok then, I can describe what the latest KOF info shows...
It shows a New DM for Leona, An image of K' Neomax, some Fan club Omake on Mai, Chin's new DM that can be preformed while drunk, and Shen Woo's ability to deflect fireballs once again (he lost this in XII.)
I'm quite happy over Leona having a new super, K' looks like he's really unleashing his flames (Kinda like Kyo's Mu Shiki), new Chin DM counter wires, and I LOVE counter Wire moves, Shen screaming away fireballs is ALWAYS awesome, and... I really wish we had some new vids already ^_^
But at least Neogeo Battle Coliseum is confirmed to come out on US XBLA tomorrow, so I'm cool!
Oh, and Little Akari of Last Blade has grown up... for the sake of Pachislot!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZr06LDAO1M
Juzo, you better watch over her! (This is so very odd.)
Ok then, I can describe what the latest KOF info shows...
It shows a New DM for Leona, An image of K' Neomax, some Fan club Omake on Mai, Chin's new DM that can be preformed while drunk, and Shen Woo's ability to deflect fireballs once again (he lost this in XII.)
I'm quite happy over Leona having a new super, K' looks like he's really unleashing his flames (Kinda like Kyo's Mu Shiki), new Chin DM counter wires, and I LOVE counter Wire moves, Shen screaming away fireballs is ALWAYS awesome, and... I really wish we had some new vids already ^_^
But at least Neogeo Battle Coliseum is confirmed to come out on US XBLA tomorrow, so I'm cool!
Oh, and Little Akari of Last Blade has grown up... for the sake of Pachislot!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZr06LDAO1M
Juzo, you better watch over her! (This is so very odd.)
Choppasmith
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SAB CA said:
Neat! Akari was always my favorite character in LB, so it's kinda cool to see her grown up, but damn it just makes me wish we could see a new LB. Maybe we'll see this grown up Akari in a new NGBC though, I wish.
Choppasmith said:
I wish the logic was always "SNKP revives properties, in order to make multiple types of media for them", but... yeah. An aged-up Akari is so cool; she's also my fav. from LB 1. I'll also be happy to kick people around in NGBC with her... -cackle- 100 Demon Sabbath > all challengers!!
I find it funny, to think of what a Last Blade 3 HD in the trailers style would look like... Like Blazblue, except probably even more simple shading, but probably much better animated... it would also be so very weird...
Choppasmith
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SAB CA said:
Actually that's not a bad idea. Outsource it to Arc as they were the original devs.
Mockingbird
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Eiji said:
is it just me or does zero look like hitler?
Choppasmith said:
No they weren't... http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=643815&postcount=59
The Take Out Bandit
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Fersis said:
Come on man, ignore their character designs; they're a solid development house that also keeps the 2D torch burning. Plus they're ex-SNK staffers.
I would play an ASW developed Samurai Shodown game.
Choppasmith
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Mockingbird said:
Well huh, i could've sworn from so many sources that he was. From looking at that topic, it looks like some mis-information that's out of control.
Well I still agree with with TTOB that they're still competent devs who can make solid games despite their own meh characters (IMO)
The Take Out Bandit
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Fersis said:
You're not being rational here.
I can agree with the sentiment that sub-contracting can result in crap, just see my opinion on certain 3D abortions.
However sub-contracting to competent developers is one way to keep the franchises and series relevant; and it seems to be a growing trend amongst Japanese developers.
Better SNK make the money and stay in business, then end up going out of business and we no longer get new SNK games or worsehaving some lesser developer buy up their properties and crap out even worse versions, or just use the female characters in shitty hentai PC games like what happened to poor Yuko from Valis.
Im cool if its something like SFIV: Dimps doing the work and Capcom doing all the design.The Take Out Bandit said:You're not being rational here.
I can agree with the sentiment that sub-contracting can result in crap, just see my opinion on certain 3D abortions.
However sub-contracting to competent developers is one way to keep the franchises and series relevant; and it seems to be a growing trend amongst Japanese developers.
Better SNK make the money and stay in business, then end up going out of business and we no longer get new SNK games or worsehaving some lesser developer buy up their properties and crap out even worse versions, or just use the female characters in shitty hentai PC games like what happened to poor Yuko from Valis.
So yeah, SNKP doing all the characters and game design and ASW doing the code its cool to me.
Fersis said:
Isn't Arc a combo of the Samsho I/II and original Vampire teams anyways? They know how to make an SNK game.
Blazblue really restored my faith in Arc, even if the game wasn't competitive, it was accessible, unlike Guilty Gear.
I will say this- hearing the reports of NGBC netcode- I feel safe being hype for XIII now. Hearing it's decent , maybe even actually good. If SNK pulls this level of netcode of for XIII, it will do well.
Fersis said:
K2 (who like Arc is also comprised of former SNK staff) developed the last putrid, piece of shit Samurai Shodown game. PLEASE give it to Arc.
It seems like almost all (if not all?) these various developers are comprised of ex-Capcom or SNK staff, so what difference does it make? You act as if Arc System Works making an SNK game automatically means it will be the same character designer(s) that worked on BlazBlue.
Leona NEW DM and NEOMAX combo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtATBcqEMRo
Clark DM, EX DM to NEOMAX combo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFZkXuSqjwg
Ralf insane 99 hit NEOMAX combo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxNAlSeaolk
I have only 1 thing to say... HOLY SHIT! :lol
Clark DM, EX DM to NEOMAX combo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFZkXuSqjwg
Ralf insane 99 hit NEOMAX combo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxNAlSeaolk
I have only 1 thing to say... HOLY SHIT! :lol
Choppasmith
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Too cool. As a One Piece fan, seeing Ralf, one of my favorite characters, do a Jet Gatling Gun, makes me smile.
I really hope the flashiness of XIII can draw the more "Anime/casual" Blazblue crowd. I think the reason why Guilty Gear and BlazBlue have done so well over SNK fighters is that they're so over the top and flashy which attracts that Anime crowd, and the "Old SNES" graphics of older KoF games have turned them off. Of course if it gets good reviews, and this should by the way things are shaping up, hopefully KoF can get its foot in the door and finally get some success.
I really hope the flashiness of XIII can draw the more "Anime/casual" Blazblue crowd. I think the reason why Guilty Gear and BlazBlue have done so well over SNK fighters is that they're so over the top and flashy which attracts that Anime crowd, and the "Old SNES" graphics of older KoF games have turned them off. Of course if it gets good reviews, and this should by the way things are shaping up, hopefully KoF can get its foot in the door and finally get some success.
CadetMahoney
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-DarKaoZ- said:
hmmm. . . so basically do the cancel combo then you have an eternity to get ready to input the command for the max cancel as long as u see you have the stocks. Looks good, but isn't really "impressive" when someone does it in a match tbh.
CadetMahoney
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CadetMahoney said:
-DarKaoZ- said:
Yea I already accounted for that if you read the post. :lol
Augemitbutter
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so is the netcode for battle colliseum really good? i want to hear impressions after extended use.
CadetMahoney said:
Many DM to SDM cancels work this way, I guess there is still a somewhat tight window of opportunity as you'll need to hit the command at a certain window in the DM. More a matter of meter usage than of skill. It's pretty much the same when you hit with a good normal or normal > command move, there usually is quite a bit of time for hit confirmation if you'd like to tack on a DM at the end.
I must say I'm really impressed with NEOmax so far. Never was a fan of the HSDM moves in KOF 2002 as they were usually built with old sprites and kinda weird looking. Most of the NEOmax moves have new frames and/or effects as well as awesome sound design. Even if some of them look a bit plain, the sound makes up for it, like the Leona one.
gundamkyoukai
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-DarKaoZ- said:
sweet was wondering when we were going get some new vids.
It makes a lot of sense, when making a game to be played online, to have generous windows for skills and combos. This is one reason I think Blazblue feels so good online; the timing to do many combos and skills feels much looser than SFIV.
I also believe it makes sense, as it works towards making a fighter appealing to a larger audience. Convoluted execution is an unnecessary barrier that really makes games less appealing to play as time goes on...
Anywho, Love the fact Leona's stuff is so subtle (14 hits to do that much damage!) and to the point. It fits her personality well, and I'll always think it's a better way to show off raw power, than excessive beatdowns. (However, I love some excessive beatdowns too, lol. They each have their place.)
She looks a bit more "emo" here than she did in XII's art, and probably a bit less mature too, but I can support this artwork
Clark Neomax buff GET! Amazing what a few good effects + better pacing can do. Zoom on UAB = Best Zoom Yet!
I also believe it makes sense, as it works towards making a fighter appealing to a larger audience. Convoluted execution is an unnecessary barrier that really makes games less appealing to play as time goes on...
Do I have to put a "IMHO" here? XD
Anywho, Love the fact Leona's stuff is so subtle (14 hits to do that much damage!) and to the point. It fits her personality well, and I'll always think it's a better way to show off raw power, than excessive beatdowns. (However, I love some excessive beatdowns too, lol. They each have their place.)
She looks a bit more "emo" here than she did in XII's art, and probably a bit less mature too, but I can support this artwork
Clark Neomax buff GET! Amazing what a few good effects + better pacing can do. Zoom on UAB = Best Zoom Yet!
SAB CA said:It makes a lot of sense, when making a game to be played online, to have generous windows for skills and combos. This is one reason I think Blazblue feels so good online; the timing to do many combos and skills feels much looser than SFIV.
I also believe it makes sense, as it works towards making a fighter appealing to a larger audience. Convoluted execution is an unnecessary barrier that really makes games less appealing to play as time goes on...Do I have to put a "IMHO" here? XD
Anywho, Love the fact Leona's stuff is so subtle and to the point. It fits her personality well, and I'll always think it's a better way to show off raw power, than excessive beatdowns. (However, I love some excessive beatdowns too, lol. They each have their place.)
She looks a bit more "emo" here than she did in XII's art, and probably a bit less mature too, but I can support this artwork
Clark Neomax buff GET! Amazing what a few good effects + better pacing can do. Zoom on UAB = Best Zoom Yet!
It's the input buffers that are important.
Blazblue and VF have very generous input buffers- which is why those games are considered the best netcode on console. HDR does also.
You're SRK trogs will complain that it's too easy- but again, their opinions don't matter- as they'll deal. Execution should be as easy as possible, without hurting the game.
With this + NGBC netcode news, it is now safe to get hype.
Fersis said:
People have settled on "Decent, good enough to support a community" XD
For me, I think it's among the best I've felt for long distance play, this side of Blazblue. A LOT of that probably has to do with the fact that the game is pretty generous with it's timing and buffering, but it all works together to be a vastly improved experience to any other modern-console SNKP fighter.
There's a LOT more positive buzz than negative, and you can count the negative around the net on a single hand. If they can pull THIS off on a $10 download, I expect equal or better for a full priced retail product!
Oh, and BTW:
Blog says that next week, Women's Team will be featured. However, the site/blog update will be LATE, and will appear on Friday rather than Thursday.
(Reposting awesome picture for new page XD)
Yes, I'll play the role of Fanboy this time :lol
gundamkyoukai
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If KOFXIII has good net code every other fighting game can go to hell , just hope it sells more. Still with GAF i going to having people to play vs with .
KOF XIII Soundtrack will have two CD's
So i guess there will be some returning classic themes.
So i guess there will be some returning classic themes.