Terareflection
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R_thanatos
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3 delicious cancels and reversals in that finale
You guys have to seriously watch these matches:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQvJPCkfw5A
These are casuals held after that official SNK tournament, P1 is Korean players and P2 is Japanese players.
Pay special attention to the Japanese player Tenkawa, he uses Shen/Duolon/Ash (in that order).
He puts on a freaking clinic, I think I might call him the
from now on lol.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQvJPCkfw5A
These are casuals held after that official SNK tournament, P1 is Korean players and P2 is Japanese players.
Pay special attention to the Japanese player Tenkawa, he uses Shen/Duolon/Ash (in that order).
He puts on a freaking clinic, I think I might call him the
Madkof Killer
thesolidshark
Member
New DreamCancel podcast up where he discussed WB7 with Reynald and AGE Mario.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QQ4MLfCeb3M
You guys might like what Mario has to say on a few things. I like what he said about Karate and scene-building.
Always love when good players pick according to set teams, including the old 03 Hero team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QQ4MLfCeb3M
You guys might like what Mario has to say on a few things. I like what he said about Karate and scene-building.
Always love when good players pick according to set teams, including the old 03 Hero team.
solidgear91
Member
Thanks for all the videos guys. That Shen player Badwolf mentioned is really good. Great use of the characters normals and special moves.
thesolidshark
Member
solidgear91
Member
It seems like players in Europe and Japan are using Saiki, according to the videos that were linked here earlier. Does anyone know the reason why? I'm quite curious because Saiki seems to be an underplayed character, but did people figure out some useful tech with him?
thesolidshark
Member
I'd say he's got a great zoning edge to him that gives lots of players problems. A player who's usually evenly matched with me over in JPN picked him up recently; made great use of his command normals and Kiyoku no Tsuki (qcf.A/C). He's a Ryo player like me, so that whole strategy was new to me. Made me change up my whole Kim strategy. Saiki is as annoying with zoning and that fwd.B as Mature is with her rekka links. That's my take on it.
solidgear91
Member
Wow, thanks for the input. I suppose some of the reasons you mentioned are also why I'm seeing a lot of Ash as well. It's just that for Ash you have to have the execution if you want to do bigger damage with HD and Sans Culotte.
thesolidshark
Member
Honestly, he's got several other moves that gives him several advantages in the right circumstances. Being the command/non-charge version of Ash is a big reason why lots of players will make him Ash-red; you'll be confused as hell how "Ash" got so speedy. That plus teleportation, good standing anti-air options, and again (due to experience), that fwd/bk.B command normal he can do in the air too. Pick him up in practice and you'll see why.
Reason you're seeing more Ash now, I'd totally give that to Lacid's/CafeIDs use of him. Longest, quite possibly the flashiest HD combo AND Sans Collette stringing in the whole game. I'd bring up a video example if I was able to right now, but you've probably already seen what I'm talking about.
J
Jotamide
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The timing is insane and the trials are hard as fuck. The online is nothing great sadly. The learning curve is too much for me too handle. I'm gonna go back to ArcSys fighters...
thesolidshark
Member
Don't rely on the trials to teach you. Use a wiki - http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=King_of_Fighters_XIII and go over all the basics first. For combos, just start small with meterless combos and work your way up. The timing is quicker than BB, but it's better to perform moves methodically instead of really fast, and there are buffers listed on that wiki page for other ways to perform some moves quicker, depending on the character.
Other than all this, ask some more questions if you have any.
Terareflection
Member
You just started playing. Take it slowly.
The trials aren't meant for beginners, however if you managed to complete the tutorial you can definitely play this game.
Forget the trials.
You can do really well by just knowing your normals, simple combos and good movement.
Trials are mostly for flash. The game's combos are mostly short.
solidgear91
Member
Yes, I would definitely agree that Lacid brought Ash's popularity up. I did mess around with both Saiki and Ash for a short period in training yesterday. I find that it's easier to hop between characters in this game, and most of them are fun to play.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Is there a good Leona player anyone can point me to? I'm trying to learn her first, then Kyo, and Iori.
thesolidshark
Member
Are you looking for videos or advice from people who play her?
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
It's probably fine in Japan/Korean/Taiwan with their thunderous connection. I've seen Taiwanese players stream online matches with Japan and it looked pretty smooth.
Somebody needs to let them know Japan =/ world.
PS3. I think I already have you on my friends list
I would but I didn't get to download it since I was busy with other games.
Oh well, that was shitty haha. Fucking SNK.
thesolidshark
Member
Had an aquaintace who might argue with you on that versus MK and MVC3 at times. He has said XIII's is the worst in contrast to how fucking great the game is though.
http://www.dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Leona_Heidern_(XIII)
I've dabbled in Leona a bit, so a few things to start I can tell you is her strongest attribute is movement. She's pretty anti-turtle for a charge character, which is nice. Moon Slasher (d~u.P) and Baltic Launcher (b~f.P) are great for helping her stand her ground. X-calibur (qcb.P in air) and V-Slasher (qcf,hcb.P in air) are a good reason to keep her airborne.
One important bnb for her is cr/st.B, fwd.B, X-calibur or V-Slasher. Work on that, but don't rely on it all the time, and make sure you can hit-confirm off of it if you want to use V-Slasher too.
Always keep her moving around, and attacking. Don't let her get cornered, unless you're willing to do an EX Moon Slasher to counter.
Ive yet to play a KOF match online that wasn't pretty much unplayable. I remember I played someone that literally lived 30 minutes away from me and there was still lag. I've played plenty of lag free matches in UMvC3 however. Unsure about MK though.
Anyway, that was my last try for online. Guess I won't be playing KOF until XIV releases for the PS4.
Holy Order Sol
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Juicebox could most likely help you. He just stopped streaming, but hop in the next time you get a chance: http://www.twitch.tv/juiceboxabel/
Well actually I can't think of a single character in this game, charge moves or not, that's better off turtling as opposed to finding a way in and doing shit. Offense is more rewarding overall.
Other than that, you'll generally want to confirm into air qcb+A mid-screen, but in the corner use qcb+C so you can get a Moon Slasher afterwards (which itself can lead to more damage if drive cancelled).
thesolidshark
Member
Probably should've added that as being my opinion. I consider Ash a lot better for turtling over Leona, but that's just based off of his moveset and the style I play him.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Good looking out. Glad my thoughts were heading in the right direction, in terms of using her. It's really taking some getting use to having to charge so much. It's like night and day compared to Bison.
thesolidshark
Member
Not surprising. Bison's charges thrust him everywhere. Leona has one thrusting charge move, and the others are easier to classify as defensive.
You'll probably see or notice Leona players rushing down with a lot of normals (cr.B's), charging up whatever they're going to do next.
One thing to keep in mind with Leona is that unless you have meter you are a sitting duck on wakeup. Her regular Moon Slasher (d~u.P) has no invincibility on startup and you will eat a combo on wakeup if they do a meaty.
Also, her st.B, fwd.B combos but is not a true block string, you can be interrupted in between the st.B and fwd.B.
Make sure to learn her normals, she has some really good (spammable) one's. And don't forget to make use of her instant overhead (neutral jump j.D), which you can combo into her super and air specials.
Oh and feast your eyes on this Leona against CafeID's Lacid (25:14): http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=R2p2MkG-84Q#t=1514s
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Learning so much from watching Juicebox's stream. This stuff he's doing with Leona is getting used. lol
Holy Order Sol
Member
I just really like his overall approach to the game. Plus I have my other monitor nearby so I can play while listening and test other related stuff. Double training ftw!
thesolidshark
Member
A great training method; one I should use more often.
Terareflection
Member
Got bodied by the people at Next Level, though I felt I wasn't playing my best. I need to play this game more.
I really enjoyed playing this offline, though.
I really enjoyed playing this offline, though.
The one at Brooklyn? You know what days of the week there's people KOF there? I went one Saturday and there's only Smash Bros. ppl.
Terareflection
Member
I went on Friday and there were only a couple of people who played, though I had fun. They said that Wednesdays during battle circuit is their busiest day.
I tried match making at the KOF players facebook, Try that.
Thanks.
Fridays should be fine, are you going to the local tourney there next Saturday?
Terareflection
Member
I am only here for the week so no... I wouldn't mind visiting again, though! Especially since I would be 21 next time.
Terareflection
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KoF top 8 should be starting soon, please tune in!
http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky
http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky
stn
Member
Wanna pick this up. Are there any characters that can be learned easily? I'm already juggling SFxT, MK, and AE as it is. Plus, I ALWAYS play ST and HDR.
I ask because its 3v3 and I'd like to at least be a mediocre/decent player quickly. I always have great fundamentals and spacing in every game I play, but my execution is not amazing and it takes me time to adapt to game-specific engine features.
I ask because its 3v3 and I'd like to at least be a mediocre/decent player quickly. I always have great fundamentals and spacing in every game I play, but my execution is not amazing and it takes me time to adapt to game-specific engine features.