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The King of Fighters XIV |OT| ¡VIVA REY DE DINOSAURIOS!
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I'm on my 3rd playthrough and almost fell asleep... lol
And the ending doesn't have voice acting
And you can't take screenshot either!
SNK pls
There's also Isolde from Nameless' backstory for KoF2002UM, but I'm not sure to which extent that counts - 2002's Kusanagi is a NESTS close while the 2003 one is a mirror construct made by Chizuru...
Examples?
Does he say anything to Joe, considering the FF team's backstory for this game?
You mean Bandeiras?
lucebuce12
Member
Love the banter between Luong and Ramon.
Also netcode is poo.
Also netcode is poo.
TheSpoiler
Member
What connection does he have with the FF team?
Here's some of his winquotes. Guess with forum he frequents.
that one actually took me a minute until i turned inputs on and saw that i wasn't hitting back in HCBF when trying to do it quickly. then i got it next try. just clean up your inputs and try doing it on the other side if that helps.
None that I know of, but in the backstory Joe references people's online reactions to his 2003 and XIII endings and comments on how the net can be terrifying.
Thanks for the quote. Looks like the general kind of blunt rudeness he applied when he demanded Antonov invite him to the tournament, and doing that (hidden) face to face with a guy of Antonov's size takes the kind of guts I wouldn't expect from most internet assholes.
Yes, that guy! YOU KNOW WHO I MEANT! ;-) Thanks.
In other news, Leona's jump in's feel SO much better than normal, and I love the range on her far A and B. I can Heidern-style crossup with C hop pressure, and this has always been on my list of desires. V Slashers loss of invuln is a hard habit to break, bit it's not nearly as bad when they made her own personal footsie options so much better.
With C X-Calibur actually working at mid screen when combo'd into, I get a lot better options as to how to hit my opponent after the Strike Arch into special. It's part of her XIII corner game, but now everyone.
Also, Slash Saber DM has upper body projectile invulnerability, so instead jumping into fireballs with V slasher now, I can just DM through them on the ground. A fair tool to have for the girl with the worse fireball bakudan startup in gaming, hehe.
sir_bumble_bee
Member
Game is a blast, I really hope SNK can turn the netcode around though. IIRC Guilty Gear Xrd Sign launched with pretty poor netcode performance, but after a couple weeks and some patches it turned out amazing. I'm crossing my fingers that SNK can find similar success
I warned you guys about the netcode. 
Nah, it was fine at launch. I got the Japanese version of it, that came out before the U.S. release, and was able to get decent matches.
The majority of SNK's console games have had pretty poor netcode going back like a decade already.
Nah, it was fine at launch. I got the Japanese version of it, that came out before the U.S. release, and was able to get decent matches.
The majority of SNK's console games have had pretty poor netcode going back like a decade already.
I don't know why we should give SNK the benefit of the doubt.
Xrd was fine at launch and got better with a patch.
Smooth Operator
Member
I warned you guys about the netcode.
Nah, it was fine at launch. I got the Japanese version of it, that came out before the U.S. release, and was able to get decent matches.
Nah, it was inconsistent too, just like the P4UA release and KOFXIV.
It was not like this game. Not at all-- None of the Arc fighters have had poor netcode like this. The only other fighter that comes close is DOA5.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Pre-patch Xrd was miles beyond this game's netcode.
Someone on reddit posted that party play has better netcode than random versus.
I read the same thing on my local FGC Facebook group, so I hope this is the case.
I read the same thing on my local FGC Facebook group, so I hope this is the case.
You still get some generic scenes, but nothing character specific between boss matches or for the ending.
Yep.
Whatever, people can be hopeful that SNK will turn this around even though zero of their games have. /shrug At least I can play with a few friends.
HEIN!
Why would one mode have better netcode? Once you connect it's P2P, right?
drangleic tourism
Member
Oh damn...didn't realize this had a demo. Downloading it now. Absolutely love SNK fighters.
PC release still up in the air though, huh? :/
PC release still up in the air though, huh? :/
Lights and Waves
Member
I love the little character interactions before matches. I finished the Psycho Soldier team's story and the ending was so cute!
Didn't get to try the netplay much yesterday because my family kept hogging the net with streaming. Figured I’d try a couple of characters in training and head to story mode... ended up in practice mode for 5 hours straight lol. Going by impressions it’s probably not worth trying online anyway until there are some patches.
Zarina is probably my fave Capo fighter ever, an excellent successor to Bob. Her animation is so good and I like how they thought outside of the usual 2.5D box with it (look at her neutral hop animation). Her moves flow really well together and she has great hit confirms, even from lows.
Ryo is a snore, they took away what made him fun in XIII and didn’t give him anything in return.
Love Heart is a beast, the new XIII Ryo. The sword slashes into super are so damn good, excellent damage even if cancelled into a regular super. Both her far standing HP and cr. HP are special cancellable which makes those slashes into super a huge threat. She shaves of big chunks of health with minimal effort. Pressing back+LK for her command normal feels funky though.
Terry feels really solid and benefits heavily from the cheap supercancel costs. The hard version of Power Charge is a launcher and lets him juggle but doesn’t combo from normals. The light version combos and leaves him positive on hit (he can link an LK after it for example). Unlike XIII he can cancel his f+A into a super now in combos.
Angel transitioned well into 3D both in terms of looks and gameplay, people will be in for a world of hurt against a competent Angel player.
Alice is so fun and easy to learn. Like a spear user from the Souls game though, you really don’t want to whiff special moves with her, them whiff animations.
I really like how distinct Kim, Gang-Il and Luong feel despite being cut from the same dough. Gang-Il has some really interesting stuff going on and is even able to jump cancel the ender of one of his special moves. They made him focus more on kick combination and barrage moves compared to Kim. He also looks better than I expected in person, feels like a nice classic design. His damage feels on the low side so far though.
Ralf feels very ‘complete’. A lot of tools, a lot of potential and good damage. In comparison Clark feels kinda, meh? Probably just because he’s different but so far the loss of a command normal hit confirm and turn punch nerfs make him feel weaker. Having a command overhead to quick max from should be pretty useful though and he also received the buff of being able to cancel his close standing HP into supers after the 2nd hit.
She could do that in XIII too, used it all the time. Don’t know if it’s the same in XIV but in XIII it seemed to be upper body invincible on the 1st frame, or somewhere close to that. So if King did a normal into a light fireball (a non-true block string) then you could blow it up with this super, she would go right under the fireball.
Zarina is probably my fave Capo fighter ever, an excellent successor to Bob. Her animation is so good and I like how they thought outside of the usual 2.5D box with it (look at her neutral hop animation). Her moves flow really well together and she has great hit confirms, even from lows.
Ryo is a snore, they took away what made him fun in XIII and didn’t give him anything in return.
Love Heart is a beast, the new XIII Ryo. The sword slashes into super are so damn good, excellent damage even if cancelled into a regular super. Both her far standing HP and cr. HP are special cancellable which makes those slashes into super a huge threat. She shaves of big chunks of health with minimal effort. Pressing back+LK for her command normal feels funky though.
Terry feels really solid and benefits heavily from the cheap supercancel costs. The hard version of Power Charge is a launcher and lets him juggle but doesn’t combo from normals. The light version combos and leaves him positive on hit (he can link an LK after it for example). Unlike XIII he can cancel his f+A into a super now in combos.
Angel transitioned well into 3D both in terms of looks and gameplay, people will be in for a world of hurt against a competent Angel player.
Alice is so fun and easy to learn. Like a spear user from the Souls game though, you really don’t want to whiff special moves with her, them whiff animations.
I really like how distinct Kim, Gang-Il and Luong feel despite being cut from the same dough. Gang-Il has some really interesting stuff going on and is even able to jump cancel the ender of one of his special moves. They made him focus more on kick combination and barrage moves compared to Kim. He also looks better than I expected in person, feels like a nice classic design. His damage feels on the low side so far though.
Ralf feels very ‘complete’. A lot of tools, a lot of potential and good damage. In comparison Clark feels kinda, meh? Probably just because he’s different but so far the loss of a command normal hit confirm and turn punch nerfs make him feel weaker. Having a command overhead to quick max from should be pretty useful though and he also received the buff of being able to cancel his close standing HP into supers after the 2nd hit.
She could do that in XIII too, used it all the time. Don’t know if it’s the same in XIV but in XIII it seemed to be upper body invincible on the 1st frame, or somewhere close to that. So if King did a normal into a light fireball (a non-true block string) then you could blow it up with this super, she would go right under the fireball.
Angel is soooooooo difficult to play, but that won't stop people from picking her!
Holy Order Sol
Member
stn
Member
Played for 10 minutes before I actually give it time tonight. Felt great! Tried out Geese, Terry, Maxima, and Kyo. I might have to use Kyo because of his alt skin. The only thing that will take me time to get used to, like it did in KOF13, is the short hop.
PSN is stnhdr if anyone ever wants to play. Just know that I'm a SNK novice.
PSN is stnhdr if anyone ever wants to play. Just know that I'm a SNK novice.
depths20XX
Member
Looks like online is a blowup. No way I'm dropping money on this unless that gets fixed. I really don't trust SNK when it comes to netplay.
sir_bumble_bee
Member
Somebody please tell me they saw Nakoruru's and Zarina's pre-match dialogue
Maxima is mostly the same but there are some differences:
- EX Vapor super doesn't seem as fast and as invincible as in XIII but the opponent doesn't fall out of it anymore after the first hit connects. In XIII if the way you connected was off then the final portion could miss. In XIV it looks like it goes into a 'canned' animation after the first hit.
- You can still super-cancel his command grab but you have to do it after the first hit (when he slams the opponent to the wall) and not after the follow up like in XIII.
- His damage is still great and it doesn't look like he will need quick max to dish out the pain.
-Stringing his EX moves doesn't seem to do all that much damage, the moves are probably more useful when used raw.
- His Climax DM looks like it would have short range but it actually goes full screen, I was using a red color Maxima and the start up made him look like a crab going in lol.
- The new laser super should be very useful, finally gives him a good long range option.
- His movement and jumps feel faster than in XIII, normals too.
If you played him in XIII then you should feel right at home for the most part, just need to make a few adjustments.
People on SRK are saying this too, that the good netcode we wanted is in party battle. Anyone here try it?
From the sound of things decent netcode might be in there somewhere but they need to patch the game to make it more consistent.
Going to hope for the best
- EX Vapor super doesn't seem as fast and as invincible as in XIII but the opponent doesn't fall out of it anymore after the first hit connects. In XIII if the way you connected was off then the final portion could miss. In XIV it looks like it goes into a 'canned' animation after the first hit.
- You can still super-cancel his command grab but you have to do it after the first hit (when he slams the opponent to the wall) and not after the follow up like in XIII.
- His damage is still great and it doesn't look like he will need quick max to dish out the pain.
-Stringing his EX moves doesn't seem to do all that much damage, the moves are probably more useful when used raw.
- His Climax DM looks like it would have short range but it actually goes full screen, I was using a red color Maxima and the start up made him look like a crab going in lol.
- The new laser super should be very useful, finally gives him a good long range option.
- His movement and jumps feel faster than in XIII, normals too.
If you played him in XIII then you should feel right at home for the most part, just need to make a few adjustments.
People on SRK are saying this too, that the good netcode we wanted is in party battle. Anyone here try it?
From the sound of things decent netcode might be in there somewhere but they need to patch the game to make it more consistent.
Going to hope for the best
while fully expecting the worst.
I played maybe an hour of matches with a friend of mine who lives a state away and we had no problems (MD to VA). Which is great considering i couldn't' play 13 online at all. There's definitely something strange going on but the netcode CAN work well. The percentage of the time it works is what is really suspect.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Finally got the game downloaded and installed, for some reason I thought if I pre-ordered it and left my PS4 on it'd start downloading automatically but nope, had to do it manually when I got home and it never finished before I got tired and went to sleep.
I wanna play through a round of Story mode first to get my bearings, what's the best team for a beginner to get a good feel? Probably South Town or Art of Fighting since they're pretty basic characters, right?
There's a joke to be made about his name here and Internet message boards.
I wanna play through a round of Story mode first to get my bearings, what's the best team for a beginner to get a good feel? Probably South Town or Art of Fighting since they're pretty basic characters, right?
There's a joke to be made about his name here and Internet message boards.
One can only hope !
Looks like MadKof and crew are also saying party battle has good netcode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0AeCS_p3tg
That Mian mirror though lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0AeCS_p3tg
That Mian mirror though lol.
Daimon on the Kyo Team.
Ralf, Clark, Goro, Daimon, King of Dinosaurs
What kind of grapplers do you like?
Ones that are slow and pure grapplers or ones that have moves other than grabs? If you want speedy grapplers then KOF has those too.
Guessing by Ralf you meant Ramon
Yes they work and should be the implementation used in skullgirls and xrd
I think somebody said it's the same way it is in SF5. I haven't tried yet myself, though.
Definitely. Any of those two teams should be good for beginners!
So between all these differing bars in online and that Party Mode is supposedly much better, I get the stinking feeling there's some bug in the netcode. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Modern day SNK has said they find online to be very important, so I don't feel it's right to write them off just yet. That said, I fully understand where people are coming from.
I'm not much of an online warrior, myself. But I'm gonna hope for the best that this gets resolved!
Kuksune
Member
Thanks for all the responses, i'll try them all out and see which one i likeWhat kind of grapplers do you like?
Ones that are slow and pure grapplers or ones that have moves other than grabs? If you want speedy grapplers then KOF has those too.
Guessing by Ralf you meant Ramon
ScraftyDevil
Banned
What's the timing to Climax Cancel Vice's super supposed to be? I'm inputting the double HCF+PP at the same time as her trial 5 demo but the move just refuses to come out.