Scrooge McDuck
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Just make a Trails through the Plot subseries and release one after every arc.
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The Kiseki / Trails (of the Sky/Zero/Ao/Sen/Etc) Community Thread: SPOILERTAGS OR DIE
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Just make a Trails through the Plot subseries and release one after every arc.
Some brief talk from Kondo on the length of the game here. Also you can see all the bonding events in one playthrough.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Gu4n/status/908584397682638848
https://mobile.twitter.com/Gu4n/status/908584397682638848
ThatChairMan
Member
Thank god. Now to hope there are more events that involve multiple characters at once, like the few in CS2 had.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Everything about that excerpt is amazing.
This actually sounds great to me. It must take skills and dedication to headrub everybody in one playthrough.
Ao, at the end of Chapter 4:
Holy crap I feel BETRAYED, Maribelle, Dieter, Arios, Noel holy shit. And not just betrayed but they ended up cooperating with Ourobouros I never saw it coming heh.
Finally seeing how Garellia was deleted from the face of Zemuria. Not to sure what the temporal displacement was all about when I've defeated Arios (and in the process went from lvl 79 to 84) I had him then he was fine and he defeated my party, I guess I'll understand in Chapter 5 ?
I also wonder if the three mechanics that arrive (can't recall their name) if they're Divine Knight or what
This game is an amazing ride
Finally seeing how Garellia was deleted from the face of Zemuria. Not to sure what the temporal displacement was all about when I've defeated Arios (and in the process went from lvl 79 to 84) I had him then he was fine and he defeated my party, I guess I'll understand in Chapter 5 ?
I also wonder if the three mechanics that arrive (can't recall their name) if they're Divine Knight or what
This game is an amazing ride
soulslayer
Member
Jolkien, how are you playing AO? Are you using the spreadsheet translation by any chance? How is it btw? Really curious if the game is playable
Thank you!Jolkien, how are you playing AO? Are you using the spreadsheet translation by any chance? How is it btw? Really curious if the game is playable
The spreadsheet translation for Ao is usable but nowhere near the standard of a finished fan translation, much less an official release. (It's also worth noting that there are two versions - one is not completely consistent with established series terminology, changing some major terms, and the other has been edited by other fans to correct these errors.)
The machine translation that's actually been inserted into the game, on the other hand, well... I question why anyone even bothered to insert it, because it's a garbled, unusable mess.
Jolkien, how are you playing AO? Are you using the spreadsheet translation by any chance? How is it btw? Really curious if the game is playable
Yeah I'm using the spreadsheet, and a guide on gamefaq it's 100% playable. A few side quest are not translated but for the main plot and about 80% of side quest you don't miss a thing. It's clearly not Xseed quality and some term are incorrect but I figure what they means on a few seconds.
I can't wait to eventually be able to speak to everybody once it's properly translated but for now it does the job.
Right now, I feel like when I'm on a new roller coaster -- I'm as excited as I'm afraid.
Sinh_Magnus
Member
Wait, so we are at 60% of the overarching story after so many games? This is going to be a long series.
Edit: Being able to see all bonding events in one run is good news, but I wonder what they will add to NG+ in exchange. After all, since Zero bonding events have been an additional reason to replay the games.
Edit: Being able to see all bonding events in one run is good news, but I wonder what they will add to NG+ in exchange. After all, since Zero bonding events have been an additional reason to replay the games.
Sounds good to me if it keeps being excellent and does go all Final Fantasy or Tales on us.
Yes.
Burning Justice
the superior princess
[Trails of Cold Steel II spoilers]
Yeah, Erebonia annexes Crossbell near the end of Cold Steel II. That map really should have been spoiler-tagged...
Added a spoiler remark (that a map for the third game in a series has spoilers for the first two).
Burning Justice
the superior princess
Thank you. I believe the spoiler tag is warranted even so... [CS2]
Erebonia annexing Crossbell is a huge plot twist, and I don't think most people would expect such a major spoiler to be on a map, even if it's for a game they haven't played. And given the recent PC release, I expect there are a fair amount of people who have played the first Cold Steel but haven't played the second one here.
purseowner
Member
How many of you are importing Sen no Kiseki III just for that beautiful LE and to stare longingly at it?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
no bonding restrictions outside of the final event is exactly the change I wanted there, so thats awesome. I'm also in for a long ass game.
Novel Mike
Member
Ugh all this info is making it really freaking hard to not import CS3. I just wish we knew if XSeed was going to try and get it out asap next year or if they might try and get Zero/Ao out first >.>
Edit: Also the news about nearly everything being voice is also pretty crazy if you think about how much wasn't voiced in CS1/2, certainly seems like they've really tried to step up for this game.
Edit: Also the news about nearly everything being voice is also pretty crazy if you think about how much wasn't voiced in CS1/2, certainly seems like they've really tried to step up for this game.
Wow wow wow
So no confirmations either way, but the bonding set up is looking pretty dang promising now. I hope it's spread across the entire cast instead of Rean just bonding with his students.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
considering final bonding events are confirmed, itd be pretty ridiculous if it was only his class.
Oh I figure, but if its split into like 80% his class + 20% the rest i'll be upset
Estelle bonding event when
Yeeesss, gooood, all according plan!
Unrelated, but I've finally managed to get a friend to start playing the series by fanboying- uh, explaining in great detail without spoilers how great it is. Any advice I should give her when she's started the first Sky game? (I've already told her to talk to NPCs repeatedly if she's interested in any of them, and that if she's going for 100% she'll probably need a guide.)
I'm so happy about bonding events being fixed, THEY LISTENED, THERE'S HOPE
Unrelated, but I've finally managed to get a friend to start playing the series by fanboying- uh, explaining in great detail without spoilers how great it is. Any advice I should give her when she's started the first Sky game? (I've already told her to talk to NPCs repeatedly if she's interested in any of them, and that if she's going for 100% she'll probably need a guide.)
Novel Mike
Member
Tell her to beware of spoilers in guides I ran into quite a few when I was looking them up as I just played through them.
Also tell her to use the Turbo feature its necessary to really be able to get into the Sky games.
Prepare some tea that goes along with it. Well and Normal for a first playtrough.
Screencap all the Olivier moments.
ResourcefulStar
Neo Member
I'm probably the only person on this board disappointed with the removal of bonding points. If anything, I wanted more mutually exclusive scenes and unique rewards for seeing them (like
in CS II). It adds replay value and encourages you to use different party configurations on repeat playthroughs, IMO. It's content exclusive to NG+ that should burn in the fires of Gehenna.
I hope we get bonding events that don't involve Rean (or other point of view characters, assuming there are any) at all, both for narrative reasons (to see a wider variety of characters play off each other) and for gameplay ones (not every pair makes for good link partners: Jusis is a bro, but Rean doesn't care about Arts Support and Arts Support 2).
the accessories you could get from Toval, Claire, or Sharon
I hope we get bonding events that don't involve Rean (or other point of view characters, assuming there are any) at all, both for narrative reasons (to see a wider variety of characters play off each other) and for gameplay ones (not every pair makes for good link partners: Jusis is a bro, but Rean doesn't care about Arts Support and Arts Support 2).
-Turbo mode
-Play at your own pace
-The HTML PC guides on Gamefaqs is your bible (for secret sidequests and such)
ResourcefulStar
Neo Member
I'm not sure I understand. There's no functional difference between removing bonding points and giving the player enough bonding points to see everything, is there? Unless Falcom add uses other than bonding events for them, like spending time training to receive a permanent stat boost.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
exclamation points on the map like cs1 and 2 would be enough
Hope: Rean's bonding event endings are largely platonic, with only Alisa/Fie/Emma/Laura + Sara being viable love interests.
Woke: Rean's bonding events engulf the entire continent, and he is able to have romantic relationships with every character. Tita? Rixia? Schera? Olivier? Not even Ambassador Cochrane will be safe.
Woke: Rean's bonding events engulf the entire continent, and he is able to have romantic relationships with every character. Tita? Rixia? Schera? Olivier? Not even Ambassador Cochrane will be safe.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
throw in Towa and Alfin as well, just to keep options from CS2 going.
But it's the ultimate, super secret one. First you have to carry over data from CS1 into CS2 where you messed up and danced with her. Then you can't do the final CS2 event with anyone. Then you're not allowed to view any bonding scenes at all in CS3, on NG+. Then, and only then, will you be able to view Elise's final scene.
ResourcefulStar
Neo Member
How could you forget Towa? CS II Finale and Epilogue events:
she pats his head, and he's comfortable enough to cry in her presence.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Good. It never worked, and now they can be vital to understanding characters yet still optional ala 3rd's Doors.
Honest:
They're closer in spirit to each other than any other potential paring. They're complete public servants to the core, always on the hunt for the most burdens of others. Compared to her, Alisa looks like the PSP version baggage.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
If you ignored bonding events altogether, Alisa and Towa are about the only ones with enough redolent scenes to fuel the ship.
Sara is Rean's knight in shining armor who figures him out on Day 1 and they have a bunch of scenes where they shittalk each other, and what is true love if not that
e: She also has the most main story presence out of all potential candidates
CrimsonFist
Member
Just as a followup since I just noticed that they released more details at some point, it will be streamed on Konami's TGS livestream, and there will be two events on Saturday 23rd at 10:40 and Sunday 24th at 12:10 JST.
Saturday stream, Sunday stream
And unlimited bonding is the best change they could have made. Was a completely arbitrary restriction.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not sure there's much in question there. CS3 will by far be the priority while Zero/Ao may not get official localization at all.
Well, CS3 can serve as a game that makes you want to try out the rest. I think it's more a question of when rather than if. Of course there are still plently of older works left.
I'm under no allusion that the Crossbell duology will somehow be officially localised before CS3, but the idea of the games never being localised at all makes me sad.
(In regards to sales, the good news is that ToCS PC is still generally trending upwards - it's currently at 18,135 ± 3,940, and whilst I don't know the specifics of how SteamSpy works, the actual peak estimated data is at 23,170? Obviously, not actually as high as that because maths, but hey, positive trends.
The bad news is, Sky the third is most certainly not trending upwards, being at 14,105 ± 3,475, which is ABOUT the same as last time I brought this up. The actually-selling-well first game seems to have had a small bump, thanks to recent patches presumably, but this has yet to trickle down to its sequels. And uh, it's kind of those games we need to worry about to justify Zero and beyond.)
(In regards to sales, the good news is that ToCS PC is still generally trending upwards - it's currently at 18,135 ± 3,940, and whilst I don't know the specifics of how SteamSpy works, the actual peak estimated data is at 23,170? Obviously, not actually as high as that because maths, but hey, positive trends.
The bad news is, Sky the third is most certainly not trending upwards, being at 14,105 ± 3,475, which is ABOUT the same as last time I brought this up. The actually-selling-well first game seems to have had a small bump, thanks to recent patches presumably, but this has yet to trickle down to its sequels. And uh, it's kind of those games we need to worry about to justify Zero and beyond.)