The Last 3D Mario was 8 YEARS Ago.

I know Nintendo likes a gimmick for new Mario games. But maybe they should take a page out of Astrobot and make a traditional 3D Mario game that leans into Nintendo's history and nostalgia. Imagine the levels they could create for Mario visiting Metroid, Star Fox, Kirby etc. Imagine the cheeky cameos and interactions.
 
Enough already with Mario, Disney ditched Mickey at certain point and continued with the creation of new characters, when was the last time we watched a Mickey Mouse movie.

Man I hadn't played Nintendo anything for about 10 years. Hopped off the train with the 3ds and I loved that thing. I got back in with the switch 2 and picked up Mario odyssey, wonder, 3d world and then Zelda botw and animal crossing. The Mario games have been incredible
 
If you want to limit yourself specifically to 3D entirely free roaming Mario games, then sure it's been 8 years

But then you would be ignoring Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury, yes I get the SM3DW part is a port from Wii U but the Bowser's Fury part is all-new and it's a (relatively short) 3D free roaming Mario game

You would also be ignoring Super Mario Bros. Wonder which was quietly one of the real GOTY releases in 2023 instead of whatever shit won

So saying Nintendo hasn't done anything with Mario for 8 years is kinda silly. They just haven't made a game exactly like Odyssey again, and considering how many decades it was between SM64 and Odyssey, you might be waiting a long long time if that's the only thing you specifically want
Sunshine, Galaxy 1, and Galaxy 2 exists btw.
 
I don't consider Mario 3D world to be a true 3D Mario title. Same with Galaxy, Sunshine was somewhat there,

I am finally getting around to playing Mario Odyssey on my Steam Deck and it's OK. There are fun and exciting moments but it's pretty lackluster gameplay wise. It plays great but it's basically a non challenging collectathon.

I LOVED Mario Wonder but again it had absolutely no challenge to it whatsoever.
 
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Hasn't that been Nintendo's way for a few generations? 1 main game from their top 3 IPs per system with maybe 1 crossover at the end (usually a Zelda), not including ports? It's 1 reason I don't think the value of the system is worth it, paying that much money for a handful of games for its like cycle.
 
I'll take a Mickey Mouse movie over all of the garbage and woke cancer that Disney has become over the last decade.
Now, imagine a "modern" Mickey movie that is made for "modern audiences " Snow White style! The horror!

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Yeah and I'm salty they decided to go with DKB instead first, like reeeally salty... But I think the results why they're not releasing more Mario games is because they have so much more variety these days, they've released more than a game per month in average for the Switch 1 so games cadence is not a problem, they just decided not only to focus on releasing mainline Mario games and give them more time so when they release, they're as good as they can, meanwhile they're releasing many more stuff
 
I didn't care much for Odyssey. I really liked the beach level though and the movement of Mario.
The movement, i.e. the core of what makes a platformer good, is why the game was so fucking good.

Also Bowser's Fury was almost good enough for a full Mario game. DK drops at the end of next week. I'm expecting the next Astro Bot in terms of how that game captivated my kids for weeks.
 
I didn't care much for Odyssey. I really liked the beach level though and the movement of Mario.
My only issue with Odyssey was going in I was under the impression each map was going to be much, much bigger than they turned out to be, I was expecting BOTW scale and it really wasn't even close to that, which was a shame because each level's theme were so cool that I just wished there was more.

I was also disappointed that there was no "ghost house" level with Boos the way Sunshine still had the haunted hotel part, but Odyssey is still one of the few times post 2010 that I felt like I was playing something as good as anything else I've ever played.
 
Maybe with AI, development time will be shorter. Of course you have to use AI in a smart way, it has to support the development not dominate.
 
Enough already with Mario, Disney ditched Mickey at certain point and continued with the creation of new characters, when was the last time we watched a Mickey Mouse movie.
Mickey is bitchmade but I still want an airtight third person platformer. He doesn't really have any abilities or special sauce so maybe it wouldn't hold up?
 
I know Nintendo likes a gimmick for new Mario games. But maybe they should take a page out of Astrobot and make a traditional 3D Mario game that leans into Nintendo's history and nostalgia. Imagine the levels they could create for Mario visiting Metroid, Star Fox, Kirby etc. Imagine the cheeky cameos and interactions.
I like the idea, but why make Mario the one visiting other worlds when his world has such a distinct style and presence? It would make more sense to pull a Kingdom Hearts and have an external character visiting various Nintendo worlds and characters. They could resurrect Captain N, not as an awful cartoon show, but a non-canon multiverse game...

But I guess Smash already fills that niche. Still, I'd love to see a Nintendo-centric Kingdom Hearts knockoff, maybe even one directed by Sakurai, as JRPG is one major genre that I don't think he's taken on yet.
 
Maybe with AI, development time will be shorter. Of course you have to use AI in a smart way, it has to support the development not dominate.

Official Mario games dont require development time nor 400 staff to make like they do for big budget games such as Spiderman, Halo etc. Their problem is they keep wanting to make a new gimmick each time to make it a completely whole new Mario experience. Nothing graphically demanding here to require years and years of development, they aint focusing on shaders for textures and RT or online.
 
The new Donkey Kong games is made by the Mario Odyssey team. They could've named it Super Mario Bros 2 3D, but they didn't.
 
You are looking at it wrong. We get one Mario per generation. The only exception was galaxy. After that, you get compromises, like browser's fury or captain toad.
 
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