shadyspace
Banned
hey can you one shot a clicker with your pistol after you've grabbed it or do you need a shiv
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The Last of Us |OT| It Cant Be For Nothing (Spoilers)
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More_Badass
Member
In the sewers...Holy shit, did anyone else get butterflies in their stomach when they went into the room and read the note revealing...
(proxy/environment "story" spoiler)
(proxy/environment "story" spoiler)
that the last guy killed the children to spare them. Seeing that tarp with the little feet sticking out...
Dunno if you are still stuck but
(early game spoilers, first few hours)
exact opposite of where you came in to this room there is a padlocked gate. above it is a ladder you need to pull down. if you kill all the infected, the game will show you but I believe you can do it without killing them all too
unknownhero
Member
holy crap, this game pulls no punches. what follows are plot spoilers and gameplay spoilers up to the
First you got the intro where they
and then there are gameplay segments where if you fail to perform certain tasks they show
. looks like this game beat
to the punch. I don't remember seeing that in a game before that's for sure. I don't have a problem with these things but I'm just surprised that they got away with these things. Holy. Crap. can't wait to play more tonight after work.
fall season.
kill off a kid on screen
ellie getting killed by stranglation, infected biting her, being burned
MGS V
MDSVeritas
Member
Yeah, some of those notes...
It's funny how after the sewers segment
I could feel for Ish
Can anyone gimme a hand here, I'm stuck.
I've gotten out of Philadelphia city and am in a suburban area, I killed a sniper and now the Humvee has shown up. It's just shooting at the rest of the gang who are hiding behind a car and I'm on the sniper rifle, apparently unable to do anything to help. All the rest of the hunters who showed up are dead. What am I supposed to be shooting at here?
Bullshit. Watch the videos. In tense combat situations the game is constantly below 30FPS. It's more like a few dips TOWARDS 30FPS, most of the time it's around 26 to 28 with common dips to 20 and 22 even. It's exactly as bad as I was describing it.
So, I have some impressions after 5.5 hours of play (The Woods area)
Pros:
- Setting and atmosphere is awesome. Too many dark areas for my taste but the game really captures the post-apocalyptic setting
- Character interaction and development. This is top notch. I love the random conversations between the characters when just exploring. Especially when discussing the notes they find. You really get a feel for their personalities. <3 Ellie
- Exploration. The game gives a really good sense of exploration even though it's not open world. I don't like that you can't backtrack areas though (It sucks when you reach a checkpoint after a frantic fight even though you haven't scouted all the loot)
- No ridiculous amount of enemies in an area. The enemies are pretty tough and you have to use stealth a lot but it just feels more reasonable than the swarms in Uncharted. I feel Uncharted 4 needs to move closer to TLoU in that regard. Joel's kills also don't feel so out of place unlike Drake's (Why is a treasure hunter such a finely tuned killing machine?)
- The music is excellent. I wish we heard more of it though. Too many areas with silence but I guess we need to hear the clickers!
Cons:
- Uninfected enemy AI (to this point at least). The soldiers I've encountered so far to not react to the sound of me choking out their partner right behind them. WTF? How are the clickers and runners so much more aware of their surroundings? Note: I'm playing on normal
- Scarcity of items in some points. I know there is always a way to clear the enemies but the game has enough tension as is. This is RE1 levels of bullshit going on here lol. I'd have preferred to not have freaking melee weapons break also
This is shaping up to be one of my alltime favorites. I think it deserves a PS4 port just so no one misses out.
Pros:
- Setting and atmosphere is awesome. Too many dark areas for my taste but the game really captures the post-apocalyptic setting
- Character interaction and development. This is top notch. I love the random conversations between the characters when just exploring. Especially when discussing the notes they find. You really get a feel for their personalities. <3 Ellie
- Exploration. The game gives a really good sense of exploration even though it's not open world. I don't like that you can't backtrack areas though (It sucks when you reach a checkpoint after a frantic fight even though you haven't scouted all the loot)
- No ridiculous amount of enemies in an area. The enemies are pretty tough and you have to use stealth a lot but it just feels more reasonable than the swarms in Uncharted. I feel Uncharted 4 needs to move closer to TLoU in that regard. Joel's kills also don't feel so out of place unlike Drake's (Why is a treasure hunter such a finely tuned killing machine?)
- The music is excellent. I wish we heard more of it though. Too many areas with silence but I guess we need to hear the clickers!
Cons:
- Uninfected enemy AI (to this point at least). The soldiers I've encountered so far to not react to the sound of me choking out their partner right behind them. WTF? How are the clickers and runners so much more aware of their surroundings? Note: I'm playing on normal
- Scarcity of items in some points. I know there is always a way to clear the enemies but the game has enough tension as is. This is RE1 levels of bullshit going on here lol. I'd have preferred to not have freaking melee weapons break also
This is shaping up to be one of my alltime favorites. I think it deserves a PS4 port just so no one misses out.
Really? No sign of him, and I'm pretty sure I didn't shoot him already. Must be a bug.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Any word on a team-command wheel being patched into multiplayer?
It would improve a lot I think.
Its fantastic as it is though, so damn tense and teamwork oriented
It would improve a lot I think.
Its fantastic as it is though, so damn tense and teamwork oriented
I think it looks better than most PC games I've played, despite its resolution and aliasing, on the virtues of its attention to detail, art style, and lighting/effects. Every environment I've been in has been impressively distinct from the last. The animation is up there with the best. It would of course benefit greatly from better image quality and anti aliasing, but that's easy to look past after a few minutes and impossible to expect on a PS3. No complaints about the framerate either.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
"Teamwork!" *hi-five* "Yeah"
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
He appears once the truck stops moving. If you try looking through the slits on the front of the car you can see him, and possibly even shoot him through there although if you wait he should pop up from the hatch.
Just reload then. It should happen after
you kill most/all of the hunters on foot. Then the humvee pulls up a bit closer to where ellie, sam, henry are and one of the guys inside pops the hatch to start throwing molotovs at them.
You are wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yX9UJV58XY&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqsw2kkkeuM&feature=player_embedded
The framerate is utter shit in traversal AND gunplay and it's far far away from being a solid 30FPS.
Is your PS3 broken? Your PS3 sounds broken. I've had noticeable low frame rate at two points in the game, each lasting about 30 seconds. Huge open area. I can live with that.
EDIT: Seems to coincide with what the analysis says. It may slow down, but it usually happens is slow-paced areas of the game.
Conscience Falls
Member
Well I thought that the auto save glitch was fixed, but apperently not as my game went from about 11 hours in or so, to 12 minutes.
Lovely.
Lovely.
Yeah restarted and he appeared. The truck stopped way back down the road the first time. Thanks.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Very much playable. I don't know how much you know about playing games at low frame rates on consoles (I'm an expert), but focusing on other qualities are huge parts of it. It's not like it is playing on a PC where I can tweak the settings to my liking.
That's awful.
cleveridea
Member
How much of the game is set in tightly enclosed spaces, like the first time you have to explore using flashlights?
It made me have to quit the game due to to motion sickness.
It made me have to quit the game due to to motion sickness.
Duxxy3
Member
Conscience Falls
Member
I can't help but feel that replaying back to where I was is going to suck some of the magic out of this game. Still have to see it through to the end.
Something along those lines probably.
Statistically, she's unlikely to even be the first immune person. Chances are, others like her have been killed or gone undiscovered.
Uno Venova
Banned
How far away was he?
This why I'm scared to even turn my internet on before I finish the game.
So do yourself a favor and sell the game.
Man, I can't get into this game. I had a moment with some Clickers where I thought the game was somewhat clicking, but then I witnessed Tess RUN right by a Clicker and it didn't alert the guy. I think this game would have been better off with fewer NPCs. Having them tag along, jumping into and out of cover, running all over the place totally breaks any sort of stealth immersion this game is trying to showcase. I get that they're part of the narrative/story, but it COMPLETELY ruins the gameplay for me.
You know, it's funny. Whenever I try and buy these big blockbuster "AAA" games, I always feel uneasy leading up to and after the purchase. I just don't think these types of games are for me. It's going to be really hard for me to finish this.
You know, it's funny. Whenever I try and buy these big blockbuster "AAA" games, I always feel uneasy leading up to and after the purchase. I just don't think these types of games are for me. It's going to be really hard for me to finish this.
AcceptableGhost
Member
your AI companions are completely invisible to the enemies, they are also practically invincible (the only way they can die is if the lengthy grab timer goes to zero)
We don't need to discuss if there are framerate issues or not. We have evidence that there are major framerate issues thanks to the DF analysis. It's just that you don't notice them. Being a PC gamer means nothing. I always hated shitty framerates for good reasons, even when I did not play on my PC. There are probably a majority of PC gamers who are playing their games somewhere between 20 and 59FPS, not locking the game to a stable 60FPS, which is the only solution for a smooth gameplay experience.
Well, I've seen that, too. But it does get better. The game opens up more, after a while. Then we have to look at why. I ask myself why they did it like this. It's not like it would've been hard to make the enemies see the NPCs. But it's really just that it's hard enough to get by when you even have to make sure your followers aren't spotted, AND you can't control them. You could have sort of the Mass Effect "go there" command, but I guess it's something about NPCs being autonomous, which helps the story, that drove this design-choice.
It's a valid complaint, but at try and imagine them being spotted instead. Then you've carefully navigated a field of clickers and suddenly they're just fucking up for you. I just learnt at a point "ok, they're not something the enemies see", and I was fantastically happy after that. It means I can do my thing, and not being frustrated that an NPC is running around a table five times before ducking behind it.
Eh, Tess got me killed a few times in the first area with multiple clickers cos she opened fire while I was sneaking. The game would be way too frustrating if NPCs were constantly screwing you up. I like it the way it is and NPCs make for better story-telling IMO
shanshan310
Member
yeeeeep. I was 20 minutes from the ending. Feeling your pain.
CambriaRising
Member
60% complete spoiler:
Just got to the Dam in the Fall. I am a little confused as to where I started in terms of location relative to where I am at now. I have heard that the Hotel is in pittsburgh, but where was Bill's town? Maybe I am not paying enough attention to signs.
Also, that sniper portion was intense as fuck. My heart was pounding going from cover to cover trying not to get shot. Then my dumb ass realized that I could go up the left side and sneak into the back of the place. So much great tension in this game.
Also, that sniper portion was intense as fuck. My heart was pounding going from cover to cover trying not to get shot. Then my dumb ass realized that I could go up the left side and sneak into the back of the place. So much great tension in this game.
MDSVeritas
Member
Good luck man, that's mostly agreed upon as the best section of the game up until the end.
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
You have to pretend that shit doesn't happen, but yeah the AI are incredibly stupid, both friendly and foe. Besides your companions sprinting across a room of infested or hunters knocking over everything in their path, the enemies will also stare right at you then look away or see a brick fly right by their face and investigate where it landed opposed to where it came from. Many times after sprinting away after one of them did somehow grow eyes to see me I would simply hide behind a table and they'd start searching for me in a completely insensible direction. Then theirs smaller things like Joel shouting out to Ellie from time to time while trying to stealth or the ridiculously loud strangles and shivs that no one else seems to hear.
For a game with so many perfects reviews the stealth gameplay is relatively poor. I still enjoyed the game though.
Right, I only mentioned that I was a PC gamer because of the people saying only PC gamers have a problem with the framerate.
I guess it just falls down to what the eye can see and tolerate. Personally, I'm not failing at this game or becoming frustrated because of the framerate, so it's a non issue for me.
And i'm glad that's the case. Can't imagine how frustrating it would be if the guy i'm not controlling would constantly get noticed by zombs/hums and it's AI is not up to par with mine.
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
That is a quick solution that doesn't solve the bigger problem though, the AI are ridiculously stupid. It'd be better if the AI weren't invisible but rather had some common sense.
Yeah some folks take immersion way too far. That would be fucking tedious like most escort missions in games
Conscience Falls
Member
I suppose I'll try and make the best of it and just wait till I have some friends over that are interested in the game but don't own a Playstation. First time I've lost a good chunk of time to a game.
I won't be playing while signed in again!
That's the only solution on a PS3. I'm trying to think of games that are heavy on stealth and have a companion AI from start to finish...Someone give me an example so we can compare.