ChiefDada
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Lol ...OK then they probably used the native 4k mode but stabilized the framerate or added some post processing. Won't look as good at 60 fps on my oled. Calling it now!
fran.fernandez
Member
70us is too little for the masterpiece
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ChiefDada
Gold Member
Haha, possibly! Happy owner of an oled as well and I can definitely agree that 30fps is simply unplayable. 120hz and VRR are a godsend. I myself will be playing in the 4k40+ mode.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Lucky ..I bought the car..I can still play all these games that have 40 fps modes but they all have black crush
Elder Legend
Banned
I can confirm that I've been playing the game for the last 2 days or so and the embargo lifts on the 31st of August. Stay tuned dear gaffers for the final word. And no, I am not allowed to answer any further questions or address anyone worries/concerns. Just a few more days, hang on tight to your butts.
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NomenNescio
Dual Sense Edger and Blower
I wonder how much better than this Part III will actually look like. Part II looked a generation ahead of Remastered, but at half the frame rate. This gen they won't be able to do that, as 60 fps at least as an option and 1440p or above are pretty much the standard.
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Waiting on PC version… hopefully 2022
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Preorder cancelled j/k
ChiefDada
Gold Member
I'll hang on to my butt so long as you promise I'll be peeing out of my butt on release day.
nominedomine
Banned
The old tradition of people giving an unintended compliment to PlayStation games by doubting they are even real.
Miles Morales, Horizon Forbidden West, Demon's Souls, R&C, they all fell victim to this one.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Betcha it will.
Time for an avatar bet. If he loses, he has to wear an Abby avatar.
DeepEnigma
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ResetEraVetVIP
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And? Why are you here if that's your view…we don't need the 35534783347804334 person saying the same thing…its a REMAKE not a REMASTER…
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Hum...did you play TLOU2? You can play that game on PS5 at 60fps and it looks not far from this. And it's a PS4 game with no PS5 upgrade, just the framerate.
RCU005
Member
Question: Why did people gladly paid for Demon's Souls Remake but hate this one?
I feel like it's more about hating TLOU because of Part 2, than any other thing.
Just like the hate on Part 2, it's going to be so minor, that it won't even make a dent on the sales and success of this remake.
I feel like it's more about hating TLOU because of Part 2, than any other thing.
Just like the hate on Part 2, it's going to be so minor, that it won't even make a dent on the sales and success of this remake.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
The biggest reason is the only way you could play Demon's Souls before the remake is if you still had your PS3, but with TLOU you can still play remaster version on PS5.
Hugare
Member
Demon`s Souls looks better than this. This uses TLOU Part 2 tech, not built from the ground up for the PS5.
Looks great, but from what we have seen, it could run on a PS4.
It uses 90% of the old animations, both for gameplay and cinematics (with the exception of facial motion capture)
They havent changed the soundtrack (DS re-recorded the whole soundtrack)
And most of all, DS really needed a remaster. It was an early gen game with so many technical problems. You could tell that FROM didnt deliver what they were trying to achieve in terms of visuals.
TLOU still looks damn good. The devs have fullfiled their vision back then, and despite being old, still looks great.
Winter John
Member
Jesus. Bringing up the very obvious, very clear upgrades of the Demon's Soul's remake in comparison to The Last Of Us remaster is something you want to avoid doing at all costs if your trying to defend it. The reason there's been so much negativity around it is because it's 70 fuckin dollars and apart from the resolution bump most people can't see any difference between it and the previous version.
Kabelly
Member
The price is meh but calling this just a resolution bump is disingenuous.
It's not just this thread. It's a trend.Why ya gotta make this a Sony fanboy thing?
One poster posts:
Another poster posts:
Then seemingly aggravated you post:
Now I don't condone the name calling, but people disagreeing with you as to whether this game is worth it or not (to them) does not equal defending Sony.
Sony isn't being criticized as you state and also no one is attacking.
GooseMan69
Member
You have to be legally blind if you think it's merely a resolution bump.
Demon's Souls is stuck on PS3, it's ugly and barely works there. Remake of DS is much more justifiable.
Stooky
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Maybe Bluepoint was asked first and they asked for a higher budget to do a proper remake but finally gave it to ND to just make scenes shot by shot and copy everything else (voice acting, soundtrack, gameplay) and slap 70 and be done with it.
Bartski
Member
DavidGzz
Member
Looks insane but it's still a remaster, why are people saying it's a remake? Resident Evil 2 was a remake, this is a carbon copy with way better graphics. It doesn't even have a dodge like part 2 which is a shame. I also think Demon's Souls was a remaster. It was an amazing upgrade, but it's the exact same game.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Blind people: "Wait, I thought we already played this? Scenes, voice acting, soundtrack, levels are the same? Are you scamming me of buying the same game because I am blind?"
GooseMan69
Member
I was super skeptical after the first leaks, but now I see it's a significant upgrade. It looks at least a whole generation ahead of the original. I would say two generations, but the original game could honestly pass as an early PS4 game. I'll call it 1 and a half. It's definitely not just a simple port. The environments and lighting are very impressive.
I saw a comparison of the hospital between the remake and Part 2, and the remake honestly blows it out of the water. That put it into perspective for me.
I saw a comparison of the hospital between the remake and Part 2, and the remake honestly blows it out of the water. That put it into perspective for me.
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Bartski
Member
scamming into buying the same game I played before that I couldn't play before because I'm blind?
SafeOrAlone
Banned
The PS5 brings "crafting exploding arrows"?
Sort of weak.
Make no mistake, the game looks great, but I can understand why two years into the PS5, the response to this game is a little mixed, all things considered. People want to see what the PS5 can do when a game is made from scratch.
There should be more of that and less of this, by this point in the lifecycle.
Winter John
Member
Yeah. Ok. It's got a frame rate boost. Big deal. The point is nobody was arguing about the Demon's Souls remake when it was released because it was very clear what the improvements were. There wasn't any fan boys going to ridiculous lengths to defend it's 70 bucks price tag. You know why? Because they didn't need to
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Exactly! This shouldn't be just a little better looking than LoU2 it should blow it out of the water and should be blowing everyone's mind. It's Naughty Dog on a supposedly built from the ground up on ps5 game!
Ellery
Member
Pretty sure everyone agrees and everyone wants new great looking games. It is actually what I want most. A completely new AAA single player next gen console exclusive.
But it is kinda unfair to look at a studio that continuously delivers and their last game was just released 2 years ago and it was the pinnacle of the previous generation smashing everything else and then to expect them to have something ready in 2 years while most other studios deliver much much less.
The first step people have to do is to realize that going from 1080p 30fps last gen to 4k 60fps this gen will already devour most of the performance gains from the new hardware. Then people have to understand that consoles are closer to PC and even if we have a big jump in hardware performance it doesn't change the fact that the transition between hardware generations is much more linear now. Final Fantasy 9 PS1 to Final Fantasy 10 PS2 is not going to happen again.
Also where are all the magical PC exclusive RTX only games that blow everything out of the water by the factor 5 with the 3090 or soon the 4090?
From what I have seen in those trailers so far it looks like TLOU Part 1 Remake is the new king. I need to see for myself in real life on a big TV and not on a youtube video for final judgement since I have pretty good comparisons recently with Forza Horizon 5 on a 3090 on a 77'' LG OLED.
GooseMan69
Member
What were the improvements in Demon's Souls that TLOU doesn't have? I played that game btw. It's the same deal as this. Same core game with redone environments, lighting, models, etc. If anything, the AI improvements to TLOU remake might actually put it over Demons Souls in terms of improvements.
Winter John
Member
If you want to know the improvements Google em
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Here's the thing though, Last of Us 2 got boosted to 60 fps in an optimization patch but this was "rebuilt from the ground up for ps5" and only looks slightly better in gameplay and at times worse than Part 2 so the 60 fps eating resources shouldn't be that big a factor. Where is the next gen tech on display taking advantage of ps5 since its a rebuilt remake? No ray tracing. Demons Souls had extensive use of tesselation which helped to really make it look 'next gen'. Only thing I'm seeing here is cutscene quality having some next gen look to it in this remake. Cutscenes are not as important to me as gameplay and environments.
GooseMan69
Member
I played the game my guy. It doesn't have any improvements that TLOU remake doesn't have.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Are you serious? Gameplay was below 30 mess on the PS3. It is locked 60 on PS5. That alone is worth the asking price.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
I think the criticism belongs to Sony, not so much Naughty Dog.
I agree that ND is bringing something impressive to the table, all things considered.
There may be some lingering feelings from games like God of War being cross-gen. People want PS5 games.
Winter John
Member
Does the TLOU have an improved character creator?
Has it got new weapons?
Has it got new armour?
Has it got omnidirectional rolling?
Has it got new weight limits?
Fixed boss glitches?
Has it got a whole new fractured mode?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
It's already confirmed that changes were made to the gameplay.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
TLOU has a speedrun mode. Man imagine the extremely hard working task of putting a countdown on the corner of the screen. 70$ justified.
