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[MrWilson2912]

Honestly I didn't find this game that good my first play through, but the second time I completed it it felt much more rewarding as you tend to take your time a bit more to actually appreciate the attention to detail and all the little things so much more, I highly recommend completing this game more than once, I will buy it again on ps4 because I know I will probably enjoy it even more this time

 

[Gbraga]

But how much more awesome would Uncharted 4 look if they cut the resolution to 900p/30?

Unfortunately, that's what other developers will likely say (and do).

That's the point, they have to back it up with their game.

Which 30fps game on PS4 can claim they look better than Uncharted 4?

You wanna say you're going with 30fps because it lets you do more graphically? Back it up. Beat Uncharted 4.

It also serves the purpose to show that 60fps games don't look like shit. I don't think any 30fps defender would claim that Uncharted 4 doesn't look good enough. Shit, it was ridiculously impressive before we knew it was 60 and thought it was 30.

 

[93xfan]

That's the point, they have to back it up with their game.

Which 30fps game on PS4 can claim they look better than Uncharted 4?

You wanna say you're going with 30fps because it lets you do more graphically? Back it up. Beat Uncharted 4.

It also serves the purpose to show that 60fps games don't look like shit. I don't think any 30fps defender would claim that Uncharted 4 doesn't look good enough. Shit, it was ridiculously impressive before we knew it was 60 and thought it was 30.

I'd rather wait for gameplay before talking about its graphics. It may look a little different when you're controlling the action.

 

[ethomaz]

I'd rather wait for gameplay before talking about its graphics. It may look a little different when you're controlling the action.

You be surprised how close Unchated games looks in gameplay compared with cutscenes... and now that all cutscenes will be in real time I believe tie difference will be really small.

You will play these graphics showed... well the graphics will be even better like ND already said there are room to improve.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

I feel like if the remaster is 60 fps, then U4 is 60 fps.

Also, the tweets from Corrinne Yu about 60 fps kind makes it seem like a lock at this point.

 

[funkypie]

I'm actually a little worried that they're focusing on 60. I'm not in the camp that believes 60 fps is automatically better. It depends on the game. For instance, I don't think TLOU is a title that needs 60 frames. But, I'm glad it's running at that framerate since it's just a remake on much more powerful hardware.

However, for Uncharted 4, I feel like aiming for 60 frames is going to limit the scope of the game and keep them on restricted paths rather than opening up the gameplay possibilities.

But, this is just speculation on my part. Uncharted 4 running at 1080p60 with the visuals shown in that trailer is just insane.

Wtf how can 60fps limit the scope of uncharted. Its a 3rd person on rails shooter.

60fps is a lot more fun to play with, especially during uncharteds' predictable set pieces.

If you're paying uncharted soley for the graphics you're doing it wrong. Extra graphics don't enhance gameplay, fps does.

 

[RoboPlato]

I feel like if the remaster is 60 fps, then U4 is 60 fps.

Also, the tweets from Corrinne Yu about 60 fps kind makes it seem like a lock at this point.

I think the performance of TLoU Remastered will give us a better idea what to expect out of what ND means when they say "targeting 60fps" since they've used the same language for both games.

 

[HowZatOZ]

I'm still not sure on this, I mean I got to play Last of Us when it was out on PS3 and absolutely loved it, and the idea of a HD version sounds amazing to me, but the price tag is something I just can't justify for the not so radical changes. Its the same stance I took with Mythology HD, at $30 it is just too much for a 12 year old + game, especially one with changes that aren't entirely radical.

I think this hard decision of mine all boils down to my current feelings with the PS4, in that only Destiny, The Last of Us and DriveClub (I won't even buy the actual game either as I'm not a fan of racing) are the console titles wanting me to keep my PS4. Even then, that isn't a strong feeling with two of the titles not being of interest to me (one genre wise and one that I got to try alpha and felt it to be terrible) and the other one that I don't see radical changes happening.

Ah well, ramblings aside the HD remake is looking nice in parts, though it doesn't help that its original PS3 release still looked fabulous to date.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

I think the performance of TLoU Remastered will give us a better idea what to expect out of what ND means when they say "targeting 60fps" since they've used the same language for both games.

Oh yeah, certainly.

If U4 ends up 'only' Killzone: SF levels of 60 fps, that is damn well fine with me.

(assuming SF did average 50 fps single player).

 

[AAK]

I'm still not sure on this, I mean I got to play Last of Us when it was out on PS3 and absolutely loved it, and the idea of a HD version sounds amazing to me, but the price tag is something I just can't justify for the not so radical changes. Its the same stance I took with Mythology HD, at $30 it is just too much for a 12 year old + game, especially one with changes that aren't entirely radical.

Do what I'm doing and wait a couple or 3 years and get the game cheap.

 

[VisceralBowl]

If it isn't a straight 60 FPS 98% of the time, and it drops randomly, give me a lock. I would rather take a locked 30 FPS than inconsistent, screen teary, juddery trash.

 

[RoboPlato]

Oh yeah, certainly.

If U4 ends up 'only' Killzone: SF levels of 60 fps, that is damn well fine with me.

(assuming SF did average 50 fps single player).

SF averaged around 35 in SP. GG actually had always said 30fps for SP, it wasn't until near release that we found out it was unlocked.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

I'm still not sure on this, I mean I got to play Last of Us when it was out on PS3 and absolutely loved it, and the idea of a HD version sounds amazing to me, but the price tag is something I just can't justify for the not so radical changes. Its the same stance I took with Mythology HD, at $30 it is just too much for a 12 year old + game, especially one with changes that aren't entirely radical.

I think this hard decision of mine all boils down to my current feelings with the PS4, in that only Destiny, The Last of Us and DriveClub (I won't even buy the actual game either as I'm not a fan of racing) are the console titles wanting me to keep my PS4. Even then, that isn't a strong feeling with two of the titles not being of interest to me (one genre wise and one that I got to try alpha and felt it to be terrible) and the other one that I don't see radical changes happening.

Ah well, ramblings aside the HD remake is looking nice in parts, though it doesn't help that its original PS3 release still looked fabulous to date.

TLOU at twice the framerate may not be truly 'transformative' for everyone but its a pretty radical enhancement if you ask me, especially when tossed in with better graphics etc.

And what has the bold got to do with anything?

 

[RoboPlato]

I'm still not sure on this, I mean I got to play Last of Us when it was out on PS3 and absolutely loved it, and the idea of a HD version sounds amazing to me, but the price tag is something I just can't justify for the not so radical changes. Its the same stance I took with Mythology HD, at $30 it is just too much for a 12 year old + game, especially one with changes that aren't entirely radical.

I think this hard decision of mine all boils down to my current feelings with the PS4, in that only Destiny, The Last of Us and DriveClub (I won't even buy the actual game either as I'm not a fan of racing) are the console titles wanting me to keep my PS4. Even then, that isn't a strong feeling with two of the titles not being of interest to me (one genre wise and one that I got to try alpha and felt it to be terrible) and the other one that I don't see radical changes happening.

Ah well, ramblings aside the HD remake is looking nice in parts, though it doesn't help that its original PS3 release still looked fabulous to date.

Look past 2014 and PS4's line up becomes incredible in Q1 of 2015 alone.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

SF averaged around 35 in SP. GG actually had always said 30fps for SP, it wasn't until near release that we found out it was unlocked.

Sorry I'm confused, the multiplayer was around 50 fps average, not the sp.

35 fps average would be better locked at 30.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Look past 2014 and PS4's line up becomes incredible in Q1 of 2015 alone.

I'm more surprised that someone actually found the alpha of Destiny to not be good.

That's going to easily be my GOTY

 

[RoboPlato]

Sorry I'm confused, the multiplayer was around 50 fps average, not the sp.

35 fps average would be better locked at 30.

It is better locked.

I'm more surprised that someone actually found the alpha of Destiny to not be good.

That's going to easily be my GOTY

Same here.

 

[IllumiNate]

Wtf how can 60fps limit the scope of uncharted. Its a 3rd person on rails shooter.

60fps is a lot more fun to play with, especially during uncharteds' predictable set pieces.

If you're paying uncharted soley for the graphics you're doing it wrong. Extra graphics don't enhance gameplay, fps does.

lol do you even know what on rails is?

 

[Lion Heart]

lol do you even know what on rails is?

Lol no kidding. "On rails shooter", "predictable set pieces" give me a break.

 

[sector4]

There was a part in TLoU doco "Grounded" where one of the programmers joked about 60fps being a funny target for them that they'd never hit, so ND were definitely aware of it earlier. Great watch though, see here

http://youtu.be/yH5MgEbBOps?t=58m14s

I love, we put the 30 frame per second goal, because that's what we shoot for, someone nicely put the 60 frames per second goal, it's like *laughs* yeah, we're not gonna hit that

 

[Xamdou]

$40 at bestbuy after GCU discount...

 

[Cloudy]

I'm still not sure on this, I mean I got to play Last of Us when it was out on PS3 and absolutely loved it, and the idea of a HD version sounds amazing to me, but the price tag is something I just can't justify for the not so radical changes

I keep reading this complaint over and over and I don't get it. The target audience for this remaster is folks who haven't played the PS3 game or folks who would pay anything to have it on PS4

If you feel the game isn't worth $50, just don't buy it.

PS: I don't mean to pick on you but I'm just tired of see all this bitching lol

 

[Biker19]

Look past 2014 and PS4's line up becomes incredible in Q1 of 2015 alone.

This. People will forget about the drought that PS4 had from it's launch through this summer (PS4 will even start shining this September).

 

[jamie0601]

Just had an email of gameseek in the UK offering this for just over £33, which is a good £10 cheaper than most places such as Amazon, Game etc.

 

[iMax]

Just had an email of gameseek in the UK offering this for just over £33, which is a good £10 cheaper than most places such as Amazon, Game etc.

How are they for release-date delivery?

 

[ArkkAngel007]

With how broken the PS3 version is now with whatever the updates ND put out did to it, I'll likely have to put in for the PS4 edition.

 

[schadenfood]

With how broken the PS3 version is now with whatever the updates ND put out did to it, I'll likely have to put in for the PS4 edition.

I booted it up the other day after months and found the multiplayer to be a lot different--but most of what I saw was cosmetic (characters with masks have muffled voices, which seems like a cool touch). Looks like they changed the loadout balance a bit too, since I had to rebuild my crafter setup because it's more points now. What else has changed? What's broken?

 

[Blinck]

So was I the only one who had many issues with texture streaming and long long long loading times in the PS3 version?

Hope they fix this on the PS4 version =\

 

[jamie0601]

How are they for release-date delivery?

I've only ordered from them twice lately but the first time I received Wolfenstein the day after release and the time after I receive Watchdogs on the Thursday before release, so they've been a bit hit and miss. I think I only received Watchdogs that early because of the bank holiday mind.

 

[Thrakier]

Oh yeah, certainly.

If U4 ends up 'only' Killzone: SF levels of 60 fps, that is damn well fine with me.

(assuming SF did average 50 fps single player).

Sorry, but that is only fine if you are not used to 60FPS. To me, if they can't achieve a 90% lock on 60FPS, they shouldn't even bother.

 

[TheCarrotKiller]

Is it worth buying this game if I haven't played it on ps3, but have however has some things spoiled for me

Spoiler

Joel's daughter dies(I think), seen the ps4-trailer and giraffes!

?

 

[a916]

60fps makes the graphics and gameplay better, so what is not to like?

That doesn't make sense... it makes the game more fluid and feel better, but the graphics are better?

 

[Spine_Ripper]

Is it worth buying this game if I haven't played it on ps3, but have however has some things spoiled for me

Spoiler

Joel's daughter dies(I think), seen the ps4-trailer and giraffes!

?

Definitely. The ending itself is amazing, people still talk about it. I think you can thoroughly enjoy the things you mentioned as well, despite knowing about it beforehand. And throughout the game, the acting and dialogue is simply great, with good gameplay to boot too.

Protip: play on at least hard mode with sound mode off. You'll thank me later.

 

[Moofers]

Don't listen to any of this shit about starting on hard with sound off. That's what replays are for. I should know, I've done 4 of them and intend to do a 5th on PS4.

Also don't worry about small spoilers. You figure out the first one pretty quickly before it happens.

Really wish this was out in June. Oh well. I guess it gives me time to hit the backlog.

 

[TheCarrotKiller]

Definitely. The ending itself is amazing, people still talk about it. I think you can thoroughly enjoy the things you mentioned as well, despite knowing about it beforehand. And throughout the game, the acting and dialogue is simply great, with good gameplay to boot too.

Protip: play on at least hard mode with sound mode off. You'll thank me later.

Well that was all I needed to hear. Will pick it up at launch then and I will bear that tip in mind, thank you!

 

[Hollow]

Every time I see this thread pop up I'm hoping to see some gameplay footage.

 

[hawk2025]

Sorry, but that is only fine if you are not used to 60FPS. To me, if they can't achieve a 90% lock on 60FPS, they shouldn't even bother.

I'm used to 60fps and completely disagree.

Tomb Raider: DE unlocked was vastly superior to locked at 30 for me.

 

[bananafactory]

Every time I see this thread pop up I'm hoping to see some gameplay footage.

This. =( Only 4 weeks out and NOTHING!? What gives?

 

[Backfoggen]

Don't listen to any of this shit about starting on hard with sound off. That's what replays are for. I should know, I've done 4 of them and intend to do a 5th on PS4.

The replays are never as good as your first playthrough. I had a great time with hard and never using the sound thing.

 

[Alcoholikaust]

The replays are never as good as your first playthrough. I had a great time with hard and never using the sound thing.

that's how you should play your first time through.

 

[R_Deckard]

Look past 2014 and PS4's line up becomes incredible in Q1 of 2015 alone.

So true!

 

[hawk2025]

I can understand the argument for leaving "listen" mode on.

But the first time through should absolutely be played on Hard. 95% of the gameplay complaints I've heard for this game have been from people playing on Normal that failed to actually learn the intricacies and play as intended. Hard makes sure you do that and ups the tension to just the right amount.

 

[Reule]

The replays are never as good as your first playthrough. I had a great time with hard and never using the sound thing.

Agreed. Hard was a lot of fun my first playthrough. If you're playing with headphones or have your sound turned up well enough, you hear everything around you to have a general idea of where the enemy is. There is also plenty of supplies to where you won't be low on ammo or crafting materials if you're a good scavenger.

I hope Grounded is available from the get go, at least Survivor. Having to choose between health kits and molotovs is always a fun, haha.

 

[Pinkman_ABQ]

I hope Survivor is at least available from the get go or even Grounded. Having to choose between health kits and molotovs is always a fun, haha.

Both survivor and grounded are available from the start. The only thing not available is the Left Behind dlc which unlocks after completing the main game.

 

[Reule]

Both survivor and grounded are available from the start. The only thing not available is the Left Behind dlc which unlocks after completing the main game.

Really? Wow, that's awesome. Just going to dive into Grounded then.

 

[Experien]

Is Grounded really that hard? The hardest last go around of TLoU was quite easy.

 

[RoboPlato]

Don't listen to any of this shit about starting on hard with sound off. That's what replays are for. I should know, I've done 4 of them and intend to do a 5th on PS4.

Also don't worry about small spoilers. You figure out the first one pretty quickly before it happens.

Really wish this was out in June. Oh well. I guess it gives me time to hit the backlog.

I'd still recommend playing with Listen Mode off, especially if you have headphones or a surround sound set up. Played the first time through on Normal like that and it was still tense but had plenty of items to experiment with. Listen mode is really only there for people who have to rely solely on TV speakers. The game is designed around not having it.

 

[Blue Volt]

Zavvi has got it for £35, free shipping. With a 10% off code I had bringing it down to about £32, I couldn't help but double dip.

For reference, Zavvi delivered Wolfenstein and Watch Dogs four days before release for me, but don't take that as definite.

 

[xPhinehas]

Is Grounded really that hard? The hardest last go around of TLoU was quite easy.

I never finished it on Survivor...I got past the subway part and didn't play it after that. Those clicker's took me hours!

 

[funkypie]

I was replying on survivor until I hears they were releasing the remaster. I stopped playing and sold my copy. I never played the left behind. I was hoping to play that before the main game.