Exactly, the Fireflies seemed so fixed on getting the cure out of Ellie that they ignored the reason she's even there in the first place, Joel.
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The Last of Us: Remastered |OT| Game of the Years
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schadenfood
Member
Really close to the end of the game - wondering if I can sneak through
the tunnel leading into the hospital, filled with bloaters and clickers and runners. Is it possible to stealth through this entire section? Last time I tried when I boosted Ellie up everyone came at me.
Tbf it seems difficult at first but you can ghost the entire level (both floors), bar the guards at the end of each floor, in less than 5 mins. Its how I did my grounded run after hearing how there is no checkpoint between the two floors.
milkham
Member
yeah its possible!
It's possible, I did it on my Grounded playthrough. Wait until the bloaters are quite a distance away and you're directly under the bottom prompt to hoist Ellie up. Then throw something to distract them, that should work.
Its very possible.
I bow attacked the two runners in the water at the end near the two bloaters and clickers because I didn't want to chance alerting them. Then stealthed past the clickers and bloaters to the truck. I reckon you don't need to kill the runners though
Yes you can and you should, I'd never fight in that section, I don't know if it is possible to do it and get out of it alive.
Grounded is awful yet some masochistic part of me pushed on.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Yes, it's possible and is actually quite easy to do. I would type out how but I'm on my phone. Go to YouTube. You will laugh at how easy it is.
I would if I had any bombs. I tried that exact tactic 3 times, but when the guys come pouring from the door I have no way to take them out. No nail bombs, no smoke bombs, and no molotovs. Barely any bullets at the start of that sequence, either.
Ok cool thanks! Was just wondering how far my progress is.
It's possible. I just went to town with
the flamethrower
I think there's 6-7 chapters left for you. Still a long way too go!
Quick (kinda) trick. Go to your save data in settings menu and if you click options button on your save it'll give you the %. I just did the bridge section you are talking about and my save says 54%.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
Something weird happened when I played this section. I was playing on normal and when the bloater appeared I shot one bullet at it with my pistol and it fell off the centre platform like a plank. it was really weird.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Never even needed to distract them. I only needed to headshot the clicker with a bow. You can also Molotov it for a stealth kill.
KINGofCRA5H
Member
I don't know if it was a glitch, but last night when I beat the game on Survivor, going through that part, the only infected were the three runners on the far right side in that long hallway. There were no clickers, other runners, or even bloaters. I was shocked. Not the case during my PS3 playthrough. Oh well, I wasn't complaining.
One thing doesn't make sense to me. Fall spoliers.
So after Joel falls into the metal bar and Ellie is escorting you out of the university, am I really led to believe that this 14 year old girl can take a hit to the head from a grown ass man using a steel pipe, shoot him and get up like nothing happened? This is the only part of the game bothering me so far.
nhlducks35
Member
Handy Fake
Member
People have pulled the doors off cars to rescue loved ones from crashes.Adrenalin is a bitch.
ProfessorMoran
Member
You don't need any of that, use bricks and bottles, which is what I did.
Generally the image looks good and you will find true black in the image and it is only in some low light sections, that the image is washed out. Youre at night and the image at the darkest spot is grey. Take a screenshot and youll see that there is a whole section between true black and grey that is not used at all: not a single dot.
A good example of this is the transition between a CG (with true black) with washed out in-game in this video (2410) http://www.twitch.tv/digitalspyuk/c/4781164
So it is clear that there is an issue that has nothing to do with the tv settings And it is easy to check : pause menu is always pure black.
Why some people do notice that and some others dont?
Thats a question of display: plasma can produce much better blacks and shadow details than LED/LCD. LED/LCD will compensate this weakness with such thing as dynamic constrast to boost the image in real time. Thats why the LED/LCD image will not be as washed out: the display will compensate.
Is that a mistake or a bug? That is hardly believable. Is it an aesthetic choice because night looks better washed out? Dont think so. Moreover the mixture of CG with true black and in game without true black seems to promote the idea that it is an afterthought
I truly think that they choose to do that because they acknowledged that the average TV is poorly calibrated and that in the low light sections, the average tv with the dynamic contrast at the maximum will crushed the blacks and lose the shadow details : so they adjusted the image accordingly.
Forgetting that some people have better display in terms of black level.
At the end i really wish that ND will make an option of that But i dont have much hope.
I had thsi happen to me on the PS3 version. Only there were no infected at all. Only happened on one run though, every other run I had the place filled with them.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Pretty sure it hit her gun. I heard a metal clink while using my headphones
Yeah, or at the very least hit her arms. That may not be realistic either, but it is a game and you have to suspend some amount of disbelief.
You know the game does tell you the exact % right ?
Go in the save (or load) menu and hit the Options button on the last save you made. You'll find the % there.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
Wow, don't even kid yourself, since when have you seen a clicker, runner, bloater or stalker just bite? Sure that may happen in the process of their attack but they'll kill you as we've seen with every other character in the game excluding Tess who only escaped with a bite because of Joel's advent and Sam because of, once again, Joel.
The same goes for Ellie and Riley,who managed to fend off their attackers
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
It's in their hands, why wouldn't they? They resolve was already wavering according to Marlene as per her recordings/journal
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
Just watching credits. Holy shit this is a good game. Loved the gameplay, story, world and characters.
Havnt played a game of this quality in a while.
Havnt played a game of this quality in a while.
My comments on the ending after my second playthrough:
Just because you would do the same thing, dosen't make it right.
In Joel's situation I absolutely would do the same thing as would many of you, but I think that is the morally wrong decision, and the easier one to make. People try to justify it by saying there's nothing that indicates Ellie going into autopsy would've helped, or that the Fireflies were reckless into immediately putting her on the operating table, etc. I think those are excuses to try and strengthen the justification of the choice nearly all of us would make, the wrong one. This is of course my opinion, but I think sacrificing one for the mere chance at the cure to humanity is undeniably the correct, morally righteous choice that could've been taken. It dosen't matter about Joel's motivation, past actions, or anyone else's when it comes down to the gravitas of the choice itself. And yet like I said, I'd still do the same thing and can see why anyone else would do it, and I don't think Joel is a monster despite that being my kneejerk reaction after the first playthrough. But that dosen't make it a less careless, selfish, and fucked up decision.
In Joel's situation I absolutely would do the same thing as would many of you, but I think that is the morally wrong decision, and the easier one to make. People try to justify it by saying there's nothing that indicates Ellie going into autopsy would've helped, or that the Fireflies were reckless into immediately putting her on the operating table, etc. I think those are excuses to try and strengthen the justification of the choice nearly all of us would make, the wrong one. This is of course my opinion, but I think sacrificing one for the mere chance at the cure to humanity is undeniably the correct, morally righteous choice that could've been taken. It dosen't matter about Joel's motivation, past actions, or anyone else's when it comes down to the gravitas of the choice itself. And yet like I said, I'd still do the same thing and can see why anyone else would do it, and I don't think Joel is a monster despite that being my kneejerk reaction after the first playthrough. But that dosen't make it a less careless, selfish, and fucked up decision.
COMPLETELY disagree. It's not my job to decide to sacrifice children for a perceived greater good. I'd never do it. My child or anyone else's child. It's not my place to decide stuff like that, and I'd argue there's no moral justification for sacrificing a child. Life's just simpler if you stay out of the business of sacrificing children because you think it might benefit humanity. It just is.
ThatStupidLion
Gold Member
Do people prefer playing infected sections or against humans?
Generally, infected. I love blasting zombies, what am I gonna tell ya --
the david portions with the infected rushes was brilliant, reminded me of, as I've been saying, the very best parts of RE4 --- but even better.
On the topic of Ellie taking the hit: I'm pretty sure it's her shoulder and not her head.
Just beat the Infected rush parts with David on Grounded+... Platinum trophy and 100% trophy completion here I come!
I Platinum'd the PS3 version, but getting 100% on the Remastered version is going to be so much more sweet!
Just beat the Infected rush parts with David on Grounded+... Platinum trophy and 100% trophy completion here I come!
I Platinum'd the PS3 version, but getting 100% on the Remastered version is going to be so much more sweet!
Brick kill run, brick kill run, brick kill run...
Pretty much, so I guess I really bricked my way through. At the end I went to a doorway and let them funnel in.
edit: Joel sneaks a peak.
Yes. Throw a brick / bottle = stun then grab takedown. For clickers, brick / bottle = stun then 1 hit with a melee weapon, pipe, bat or piece of wood.
My 3rd playthrough on Survivor+ will be even more interesting. Love this game
PS: I found the melee weapon durability manual and the one axe I found lasted all the way from Tommy's place till I finished the game
EmptySpace
Banned
if a clicker is asleep, you can kill it with a brick, three hits.
did that to two clickers. one was asleep, one heard it and came rushing then i triple combo'd it with another brick.
You say you disagree, but you confirmed what I said. You would avoid the decision of sacrificing a child because not choosing it is simpler and easier, you said it yourself. We're talking about the decision in the game here...in this hypothetical situation it IS your job to decide and take action if you were placed in Joel's shoes, whether you like it or not. Avoiding the unwanted action is still taking an alternative action; the same action Joel took, the same action you and I would take, the wrong action. It's wrong because we're choosing ourselves and the child over the possibility of saving the entire human race, which includes countless others and their countless children.
I think you are looking into the vaccine too much and its ability to "save the entire human race".
morality is incredibly relative. I don't think sacrificing children is ever moral -- for any reason. there's no justification in my mind that makes it okay.
Awesome, thanks man. I'll give this a shot tomorrow.
This was the exact point where the game had me hooked. The atmosphere was incredible.
Something that confused me: I had a note that said there were four types of infected, but I only recall three. Were stalkers the (mid-game spoiler)
guys inside the sewers that kept running and hiding behind stuff until I got close?
I'm not, which is why I've made sure to say a chance or possibility in saving the human race when I bring it up (and by saving the human race I just mean finding a cure to the virus, the nature of humanity is pretty fucked at this point). We don't know how effective the surgery will be, if nothing will come of it, or what will happen after the surgery, etc. That dosen't mean that there's not a probability of them finding a vaccine to CBI.
I've played the game twice and listened to all the final recordings, I know how little information is given about the surgery and the vaccine. I would still say there is an obvious intention to make Joel's decision between either himself/Ellie, or the rest of humanity. Even if the vaccine is just a glimmer of hope.
I've played the game twice and listened to all the final recordings, I know how little information is given about the surgery and the vaccine. I would still say there is an obvious intention to make Joel's decision between either himself/Ellie, or the rest of humanity. Even if the vaccine is just a glimmer of hope.
Of course it's relative, and we're talking about a hypothetical situation here. Neither choice is "okay", one has the potential (however little) to cure the virus plaguing humanity, and the other saves a child. In my opinion, one is the right choice to make and the other is the wrong choice, and I would gladly make the wrong choice, as would you. If you disagree that's fine, but in this situation there is still the big decision being made.
Vaccine =/= cure.
EDIT:
You are also advocating sacrificing a few for the greater good. I have never been a fan of that.