Are they really going to take the show in that direction? Virgil and Kevin navigating the afterlife like Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey? Kinda leaning towards not and he'll be resuscitated somehow, but it would be hilariously amazing if they did.
Do you disagree?
I disagree. With what happened to Nora on the last episode and her state of mind after the Erika confrontaton, I can totally see this be too much on top of everything else.
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Each week I think the following episode will not top the previous, each week I'm wrong. Incredible.
Yeah, I mean, people like twists but absent that this show is still just emotion porn backed up by that sad piano theme they keep using. lol
Yeah, I mean, people like twists but absent that this show is still just emotion porn backed up by that sad piano theme they keep using. lol
Virgil killed himself so he can now guide Kevin to where he needs to go in the afterlife. This is why the epinephrine is never used. Because Virgil knows if he told him what he really had to do, fight his own demons, he would not agree to take the poison without a definitive way back. The reason for this lies in the The Divine Comedy. Virgil is Dante's guide through the 7 levels of hell. He guides him through these to reach heaven, but Virgil is also a torchered soul, who can not enter the gates, but only guide him to where he needs be. In killing himself he atoned for his sins but ultimately sacrifices himself to help Kevin find his path. Truly brilliant.
Are they really going to take the show in that direction? Virgil and Kevin navigating the afterlife like Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey? Kinda leaning towards not and he'll be resuscitated somehow, but it would be hilariously amazing if they did.
I"m still trying to figure out how the cave lady at the opening episode has to do with what's going on.
I did enjoy the episode a good amount though. I like the Kevin / Patty duo.
Yeah, I mean, people like twists but absent that this show is still just emotion porn backed up by that sad piano theme they keep using. lol
I'm guessing Michael is going to bury Kevin (and Virgil...?) and they'll both come back 3 days later like the birds?
They really need to stop using that piano theme so often. It's a good song, but it loses its impact when it plays in every other scene.
Are they really going to take the show in that direction? Virgil and Kevin navigating the afterlife like Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey? Kinda leaning towards not and he'll be resuscitated somehow, but it would be hilariously amazing if they did.
please continue this next week.. i get the feeling it's going to be about Tommy or something..
what the hell just happened?
surely he's not dead.. for good?
please continue this next week.. i get the feeling it's going to be about Tommy or something..
what the hell just happened?
surely he's not dead.. for good?
He's gonna be a human shoebox bird when Michael wishes him back.
That's not quite how the birds work, you get to make the wish if the bird lives.
That's not quite how the birds work, you get to make the wish if the bird lives.
Virgil killed himself so he can now guide Kevin to where he needs to go in the afterlife. This is why the epinephrine is never used. Because Virgil knows if he told him what he really had to do, fight his own demons, he would not agree to take the poison without a definitive way back. The reason for this lies in the The Divine Comedy. Virgil is Dante's guide through the 7 levels of hell. He guides him through these to reach heaven, but Virgil is also a torchered soul, who can not enter the gates, but only guide him to where he needs be. In killing himself he atoned for his sins but ultimately sacrifices himself to help Kevin find his path. Truly brilliant.
Wouldn't Kevin's palm prints be readily available from his cop days? Since they are gathering samples, the police didn't get hits from the print they pulled from the car? Weird.
Yeah, it was a captivating episodes overall but it's going to sink or swim based on whether Kevin is dead for good or if he's going to be brought back somehow.
Something bothers me about the "Virgil is Kevin's guide" theory. I'm not sure if it's because I've been bitten one too many times by Lindelof, but I get an odd feeling that this is all a red herring.
The whole episode felt like a red herring. The entire episode, we are lead to believe that what Kevin is seeing is real. This is similar to other episodes, where we are lead to believe that something supernatural is real, only to be smacked in the face with reality. In season 1, there is the episode of Nora going to a convention where here ID badge is missing. The episode was structured around the idea that Nora might be delusional, only to find out that, yes, in fact, there was someone impersonating her.
Also in season 1, the episode with Revered Matt and the casino. The entire episode, we are lead to believe that divine intervention is guiding Matt to procuring the funds needed to buy back his church, only to be slapped in the face by reality when he stops to help a member of the Guilty Remnant, only to be hit in the head by a rock and put in a coma for a few days.
This seems to be a reoccurring theme in The Leftovers; show events that make the audience think "oh, maybe something supernatural really is happening to these people," only to be rudely awakened to the fact that, no, nothing is supernatural; it's all just perception and willingness to believe.
It would be incredibly odd for the show to suddenly acknowledge that there are indeed mystical forces at hand. The whole "Virgil is Kevin's guide" theory would not only confirm that idea, but it would take the show to a completely zany place. The amount of times they said "do battle" this episode was ridiculous; and if they actually showed Kevin "doing battle," I feel like the show would lose a certain something. The audiences' imagination will always, always, be better than whatever explanation is given to us. Let us think, wonder, theorize; because the minute you show us the truth, we become bored of it.
Kind of like Star Wars and The Force. The Force was this amazing concept that consumed the imagination of everyone, young and old alike. Then the prequels came out and began explaining "midichlorians;" essentially ruining the concept of The Force. The minute it became something tangible, it became boring. I feel the same will happen to The Leftovers if the theory is proven correct next week.
Wrote way more than I thought I would. Can't wait for next week.
I know some people can't stand the way the musical themes get played over and over in the show... doesn't bother me generally, though today "Where Is My Mind" is burned into my head so badly, and I totally blame The Leftovers.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends up dead for real, but still in the show as some sort of ghost like Patti....to maybe tommy?
I know some people can't stand the way the musical themes get played over and over in the show... doesn't bother me generally, though today "Where Is My Mind" is burned into my head so badly, and I totally blame The Leftovers.
literally zero chance Kevin dies before the palm print result comes back to haunt him
Season 2: episode 8 "International Assassin"
In the wake of Kevin's desperate decision to vanquish Patti, questions and answers emerge as the world adjusts to the repercussions of what comes next.
Is tomorrow's episode going to be about the son? Do we know that? It'd be like modern TV to bait us with Kevin's storyline, then switch to something else with its next episode ala TWD.
Even before the ep title, I wouldn't think so.
3 episodes left.
Counting tonight's?
Yeah, there's ten episodes in the season. Tonight is number eight.
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Haven't really posted in here cause I've been one or two episodes behind airing, but I'm caught up now. I think season 2 has been really great, impressive improvement over season 1, which I thought played with a lot of interesting ideas, but execution was pretty hit or miss. Excited for tonight's episode.