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[Mario]

I'm finally starting to think Patti may indeed just be in Kevin's mind. I was actually hoping there was something supernatural going on.

Something not quite natural has to be going on given he was buried for some amount of time.

And a bunch of people disappeared instantly too.

 

[Baroquemantic]

Something not quite natural has to be going on given he was buried for some amount of time.

And a bunch of people disappeared instantly too.

Oh I was specifically talking about with Patti. I do believe all the people departing was supernatural.

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Or aliens!

I need answers, Lindelof! It's going to really suck if this show gets cancelled without ever having explained what the hell is going on.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Oh I was specifically talking about with Patti. I do believe all the people departing was supernatural.

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Or aliens!

I need answers, Lindelof! It's going to really suck if this show gets cancelled without ever having explained what the hell is going on.

They don't intend to ever explain the departure.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin was only just buried and this was still the same night he took the poison.

 

[SickBoy]

I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin was only just buried and this was still the same night he took the poison.

That's my expectation. I was surprised to see some suggestions like "Mary died while Kevin was buried, etc." But, I guess we'll see.

BTW, I can totally get that some people aren't enjoying it -- and to a degree, I can see some of the complaints, but as a survivor of the final 5-7 seasons of Dexter and someone who's watching American Horror Story for reasons that can only be described as "I have no idea why," the quality is on an entirely different plane, and the show would have to drudge through some pretty terrible territory to disappoint me in the way those shows did.

 

[RaidenZR]

Tom Perrotta Interview on IndieWire
"Taking Kevin to the Other Side"

There's some brief talk about a potential season 3 towards the end.

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The response is a little safe for the interview's sake but that they're waiting to discuss it with HBO.

 

[Baroquemantic]

Tom Perrotta Interview on IndieWire
"Taking Keven to the Other Side"

There's some brief talk about a potential season 3 towards the end.

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The response is a little safe for the interview's sake but that they're waiting to discuss it with HBO.

I am crossing my fingers for this show to get another season.

 

[TheOddOne]

New episode today:

Season 2: episode 9 "Ten Thirteen"

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A personal loss and subsequent pilgrimage to Miracle offer clues on why Meg embarked on her path as a Remnant crusader. After a fallout with Laurie, Tom seeks to reunite with Meg.

 

[Dan]

I caught up with the last two episodes.

a) That was super compelling.

b) "International Assassin" in particular made me want David Lynch to do another movie with Theroux.

 

[~Kinggi~]

New episode today: Ten Thirteen

It is finally happening you guys. The crossover episode with the X-Files is here.

 

[_Ryo_]

Damon gave a hint about this next ep in an interview. He said the hint is "In which we do what we said we wouldn't"

My guess? He means answer a question. Like was it a dream? Was patty real? Etc. They absolutely aren't gonna answer anything about the departure though.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

Damon gave a hint about this next ep in an interview. He said the hint is "In which we do what we said we wouldn't"

My guess? He means answer a question. Like was it a dream? Was patty real? Etc. They absolutely aren't gonna answer anything about the departure though.

Or a flashback of some kind?

But also what the FUCK is going on right now?

edit:

No clue how they wrap this up in one episode next week. No CLUE.

edit 2:

Well ok, I have kind of a clue. What a great fucking twist.

 

[belushy]

Or a flashback of some kind?

But also what the FUCK is going on right now?

edit:

No clue how they wrap this up in one episode next week. No CLUE.

edit 2:

Well ok, I have kind of a clue. What a great fucking twist.

Whatcha think? (Spoiler tag obv)

 

[bodyofanamerican]

No need to spoiler tag speculation on aired material but it's obvious that the Remnant has been there the whole time, and Evie and her friends' disappearance was planned by Meg.

The question now is if Tom can reveal it before John goes nuts and tries to murder Kevin and his family (keeping in mind that Kevin is with Michael).

 

[Demon Lizardman]

So

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Did Megan kidnap them or did they agree to be a part of the plan?

 

[jb1234]

Liv Tyler scares me.

 

[Conkersbadfurday]

So if

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the three girls were kidnapped and not members of the remnant, that means Patti's explanation of "THEY VANISHED" wasn't real. Does this in turn mean she was never real at all and just a figment of Kevin's imagination?

 

[bodyofanamerican]

So if

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the three girls were kidnapped and not members of the remnant, that means Patti's explanation of "THEY VANISHED" wasn't real. Does this in turn mean she was never real at all and just a figment of Kevin's imagination?

Yep. Good call.

Also, they looked pretty willing at the end of the episode tonight. I think Meg's been laying groundwork for a while in Jarden.

 

[Conkersbadfurday]

Yep. Good call.

Also, they looked pretty willing at the end of the episode tonight. I think Meg's been laying groundwork for a while in Jarden.

Meg is the queen of serving kool aid, at least in the metaphorical sense.

 

[Infernostew]

Pretty weak episode until the very end where things got insanely interesting. I'm not a fan of Tommy so following him around wasn't all that great. Can't really fault them for making a set up episode. But

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once Meg and Matt's conversation was going on, I knew things were heating up and Tommy opening the trailer was so unexpected.

I think the finale is going to be something special.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

Where were they keeping the trailer, btw? In proportion to the rest of the town/encampment outside of it I mean.

 

[Infernostew]

Where were they keeping the trailer, btw? In proportion to the rest of the town/encampment outside of it I mean.

Meg drove to Jardan from her outpost so it has to be outside it.

 

[5taquitos]

Where were they keeping the trailer, btw? In proportion to the rest of the town/encampment outside of it I mean.

The trailer was in the barn inside the GR compound nearby

 

[KingKong]

Liv Tyler scares me.

her acting style seems to be being slow and... thats it

 

[bodyofanamerican]

Thanks for clarifying!

Also, Sepinwall's review is up.

http://m.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-liv-tyler-makes-a-terrifying-impression-on-this-weeks-leftovers.

 

[Infernostew]

Thanks for clarifying!

Also, Sepinwall's review is up.

http://m.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-liv-tyler-makes-a-terrifying-impression-on-this-weeks-leftovers.

He's good stuff. He works(ed) for the local paper. Haven't read it since they upped price on it though.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

He's good stuff. He works(ed) for the local paper. Haven't read it since they upped price on it though.

Star Ledger? Fellow Jersey person?

 

[Sanke__]

Makes me sad that so many people are missing one of the greatest shows ever on television

Reminds me a lot of the pain of watching arrested development when it aired

Another show people will see one day and feel stupid for not watching when it originally aired

Fingers crossed for season 3 and an ending to the series

 

[Infernostew]

Star Ledger? Fellow Jersey person?

Born and bred.

 

[tyaaron]

So Meg's ringtone is the cricket John's been hearing. Anyone remember if he mentioned how long he's been trying to find the cricket?

 

[5taquitos]

So Meg's ringtone is the cricket John's been hearing. Anyone remember if he mentioned how long he's been trying to find the cricket?

Oh snap

 

[shoreu]

I swear this show just mind fucks me every week.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

Born and bred.

Likewise!

Also, here's the AV Club review:
http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/nothing-beats-post-thanksgiving-leftovers-229014

One other obvious edit:
White lines. Again, the GR has been laying groundwork for a while.

 

[Byakuya769]

So if

Spoiler

the three girls were kidnapped and not members of the remnant, that means Patti's explanation of "THEY VANISHED" wasn't real. Does this in turn mean she was never real at all and just a figment of Kevin's imagination?

Or she's a liar.

 

[~Kinggi~]

That ether by matt with the 'living reminder' jab had me lolzing

Damn that was a good twist at the end. Didnt see it coming but then made total sense.


Also anyone have any speculation exactly how revealing the kids are back will change everything? I dont get it.

 

[zeitgeist]

Also anyone have any speculation exactly how revealing the kids are back will change everything? I dont get it.

My guess is the girls say that they departed and then returned which will make the world think that everyone else who departed may return thus, no one forgets about the departure (Even though no one has actually forgotten about it MEG!).

 

[~Kinggi~]

My guess is the girls say that they departed and then returned which will make the world think that everyone else who departed may return thus, no one forgets about the departure (Even though no one has actually forgotten about it MEG!).

thats a damn good theory!

 

[BarrenMind]

That ether by matt with the 'living reminder' jab had me lolzing

Damn that was a good twist at the end. Didnt see it coming but then made total sense.


Also anyone have any speculation exactly how revealing the kids are back will change everything? I dont get it.

Here is my guess:

The three girls reveal themselves on the bridge, and hang themselves in full view of the visitors outside the town and some of the citizens of Jarden. Family members rush toward the girls and, with the fence open, travelers start rushing the bridge from the other end. Just before the girls are reached, Meg detonates plastic explosives hidden under the bridge.

To me this feels like the kind of ramped up style of spectacle that she's going for. One way or another, I think her goal is to cause losses on both sides to completely demonstrate her disgust of Jarden and the idea that nowhere is safe.

Edit: Nevermind I like zeitgeist's better.

 

[J-bo]

So Meg's ringtone is the cricket John's been hearing. Anyone remember if he mentioned how long he's been trying to find the cricket?

Wow, totally missed that, but what a catch.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Well damn.
The GR are behind the disappearance.
The earthquake was a bad coincidence for Kevin.
The Lens theory was BS, just as Nora assumed it was.
Patti was inside Kevins head. His tortured mind was messing with him and we've seen the journey he went on to eradicate her.

Now this be plan from Meg. I don't even want to speculate what terroristic plan she's got. Something is happening on thar bridge. The girls will be there, but what's her plan for reconnecting Miracle and Jardin? I guess we'll find out in the finale.

Edit:

Many kudos to Liv Tyler. Mysteriously haunting performance as Meg tonight.

 

[KoruptData]

I never got the theory that Patti was somehow supernaturally real. She was always a representation of Kevin's mind to me.

 

[The One and Done™]

So Nora was telling Erica the truth when she said Evie didn't depart? Damn, this episodes calls so many other things into question now.

Clearly a supernatural element occurred on this show but the show continues to beg the question if there are STILL supernatural occurrences.

I really love how Matt was not an idiot in his conversation with Meg. He sniffed out her bullshit pretty quickly.

 

[jmelons]

I really love how Matt was not an idiot in his conversation with Meg. He sniffed out her bullshit pretty quickly.

I love how shrewd Matt is. Always has been. As soon as that scene started I knew how it would go; not because it was predictable, but because I know both Meg's and Matt's characters so well. Sign of a really good show. Nothing puts me off from a show more than when characters start acting erratically; doing things their character would never do. Watching Matt's BS meter work was a pleasure.

That ending though. When I read the description of this episode, and realized it was going to be a Meg/Tommy episode, I was dreading spending time watching this Sunday night, on top of all the other shows on tonight. Glad I stuck with it though, because that ending came out of nowhere. I would have sworn that

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the trailer would be full of explosives. Hell, the entire episode was hinting towards Meg becoming a domestic terrorist.

Then that ending. So good.

 

[captjohnboyd]

Yeah fantastic little twist. I always wondered what it meant when they showed the 3 girls running purposefully through the forest, naked, seemingly in glee. Perhaps that was during their time meeting up with Meg, or right after they Departed themselves.

I actually had been meaning to catch this show for over a year now and finally broke down when my ex convinced me it wasn't the depressing slog so many reviewers made it out to be. I've loved every minute of it. I binged watched 2 seasons now in about a week lol!

 

[TheOddOne]

- Variety: ‘The Leftovers’ Boss Damon Lindelof Explains That Shocking Twist.
- Atlantic: The Leftovers: A Surprise Return.
- Sepinwall: Review: Liv Tyler makes a terrifying impression on this week's 'Leftovers'.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

So Meg's ringtone is the cricket John's been hearing. Anyone remember if he mentioned how long he's been trying to find the cricket?

Oh wow, nice catch. So that means that there was probably a hidden cellphone in the house.

Meg is actually starting to scare me. Her character is just so unpredictable at this point.

 

[ThLunarian]

This show speaks to me. Sometimes I feel like the world is falling apart, that there are too many tragedies happening all the time, that it's so tempting to numb yourself to all of them and to grow bitter and hard. I root for the Garveys (and Nora) because they are fighting so hard to beat back that numbness, to stay sane and retain their humanity in a world that has gone mad.

The Guilty Remnant is a warning about what could happen if you give in to that temptation. And Jarden is full of people who are putting their heads in the sand and pretending that everything is fine.

The Garveys (and, in real life, most people, I think) are in the middle of those extremes. It's a powerful allegory.

 

[.hacked]

I can't help but feel let down, after such a great ep last week with a battle in some other worldly place to find out the

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GR just dupe 3 mopey teens into joining them

is just lame.


I was hoping for something more.

 

[Corpsepyre]

That ending!

Fuck!

This show is incredibly interesting, but infuriating at the same time.

Lost 2.0

 

[digitalrelic]

I actually think that this show is differentiating itself from LOST in one very important way: it's actually answering the questions put forth. Not all of them, of course. As we all know, the departure won't be explained. But it's great to see practically all of the other questions presented this season being answered in one way or another.

Fantastic episode. Can't wait for next Sunday.