For TP the Arbiter's Grounds and Snowpeak are definitely my stand out, some of the best in the series.
I'm about to go into the 5th here and the 4th has definitely been the best as well up to this point.
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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |OT| Home of Punkin' Chunkin' Champion 2011
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For TP the Arbiter's Grounds and Snowpeak are definitely my stand out, some of the best in the series.
I'm about to go into the 5th here and the 4th has definitely been the best as well up to this point.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Almost done with the game, and I think I had to use the recalibrate menu option once (because I wasn't paying attention at start up and accidentally touched the controller slightly during the start up calibration) since it does such a good job recalibrating the sword on its own.
Motion+ aiming really grew on me too. At the beginning of the game the cursor felt super sluggish and weird, after some time to practice I have no problem moving it around or aiming it right where I want to.
As for thrusts, I don't know what's up with other people but not once has my thrust ever registered as anything but a thrust.
Motion+ aiming really grew on me too. At the beginning of the game the cursor felt super sluggish and weird, after some time to practice I have no problem moving it around or aiming it right where I want to.
As for thrusts, I don't know what's up with other people but not once has my thrust ever registered as anything but a thrust.
The idea behind the 7th Dungeon is one of the most brilliant level design idea in recent memory, but it has the drawback of potentially making this dungeon quite short and easy.
But the puzzles inside the dungeon are also quite good. Definitely one of my favourite dungeons. The Lanayru Area is also my favourite puzzle-wise. Just brilliant. (Especially the dungeons in it.)
But the puzzles inside the dungeon are also quite good. Definitely one of my favourite dungeons. The Lanayru Area is also my favourite puzzle-wise. Just brilliant. (Especially the dungeons in it.)
EmCeeGramr
Member
There were multiple moments in that dungeon that made me grin like crazy.
Nah, my favorite mini game is the tricky coaster. You don't do much but it's just so fun.
As well as fun fun island, now THAT was an awesome mini game.
If it weren't for the internet I'd love this game 100%, but whenever I encounter something I'm perfectly fine with but I'm sure not fine with others I go "man, people wouldn't like this" and I tend to enjoy it a little less, even though I don't want to.
I have only myself to blame, though. I love this game.
I have only myself to blame, though. I love this game.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I enjoyed it,
though the swimming controls still bug me
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
There are gameplay changes you could sort of liken to the snowboarding in that one part of TP all over SS, they didn't sacrifice that sort of ideas for this approach.
The thrust works much more successfully when I do it slowly, which is pretty much completely against the way I want to do it given the precision and timing I've always needed the move in combat. I lost about 6 hearts on a spider last night in the 4th dungeon that was extremely close to a wall, I thrusted in the short time it wasn't bouncing off the wall and spinning, nothing came out. Next pass, I did it again, link didn't thrust until I pulled back the controller, which was too late and then thrusted the wrong end of the spider into me, which then had it hit off the wall at an odd angle back into me right as I got up.
The controls work fine for me most of the time, but in a scenario above it quickly pisses you off when something actually goes wrong.
The controls work fine for me most of the time, but in a scenario above it quickly pisses you off when something actually goes wrong.
also i'm sorry but i can't believe Link left the girl BEHIND with Batreaux.
Even if he wasn't a monster I would have taken her with me the first time!
"oh, so the weird creepy adult who lives under the island will spend the night with you? Says he'll bring you back in the morning? Sure, I trust him!"
"oh, so the weird creepy adult who lives under the island will spend the night with you? Says he'll bring you back in the morning? Sure, I trust him!"
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Oh also, and though I really have myself to blame here, Skyward Sword has taught me that Nintendo's marketing department are as trustworthy as BioWare's, and thus I will be on an automated blackout outside of initial reveals for all of their major games. Never again Nintendo. Never again.
That's the thing. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one enjoying aspects of the game here. Everyone either hates it, or doesn't like it as much as I do.
It sucks, and though it's really not changing my opinion, I want to discuss the game rather than bitching about it from time to time you know?
I'm not saying you don't have the right to bitch about it, but I'm really disappointed for everyone not being able to enjoy the game. And wish there were more people who are more fond of it just so we can have a proper discussion.
... I didn't even try those... *facepalm*
I agree. They should have made left and right on the d-pad horizontal camera control like SMG, and kept the harp and Fi to up and down. It would have been so simple.
Yeah, they did alright with showing pretty much nothing until the game was about to come out, then churned a shitload of trailers out. I avoided most of them but still saw a shockingly large amount just from a few videos.
Same thing happened with Uncharted 3 earlier, I avoided all the footage past the reveal, but the screenshots and gifs posted around were the biggest standout moments in the game. Wtf.
Please tell me you did the big island mini game, please?
i've enjoyed aspects of it. most people, even those who are complaining, still like the game.
nobody is losing sleep over their purchase I hope
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
There's camera control in SMG? Mind, blown...
I haven't gone past Skyloft yet so I didn't know they were going to map left and right on the d-pad, so I was extra baffled that those two buttons did not move the camera. Such a bad design decision.
Just finished dungeon number 4 and wow, that was an awesome dungeon. Nearly perfect in every way, in fact I fell in love with this game ever since the end of the first dungeon I think. But I agree with EatChildren and Amir0x as well. This game also falls into some of the traps that the handheld Zelda's suffered from. My original analysis still stands, this is not a coherent massive Zelda adventure but more like a whole bunch of different gameplay segments put in a sequence.
I'm still not feeling much of a connection to the world. The style of the third and fourth dungeon is just too different to be considered 'part of the same world'. They really just threw every idea they had in this game, for better for worse. Might had something to do with the development cycle. Sometimes less is more and it seems that the designers of Skyward Sword totally forgot about that rule. In any case it's a truely unique game and that can't be said of everything released these days. Sometimes it feels like it does right what Twillight Princess did wrong but wrong what Twilight Princess did right.
I'm still not feeling much of a connection to the world. The style of the third and fourth dungeon is just too different to be considered 'part of the same world'. They really just threw every idea they had in this game, for better for worse. Might had something to do with the development cycle. Sometimes less is more and it seems that the designers of Skyward Sword totally forgot about that rule. In any case it's a truely unique game and that can't be said of everything released these days. Sometimes it feels like it does right what Twillight Princess did wrong but wrong what Twilight Princess did right.
shadyspace
Banned
big island mini game means fun fun island, right?
Davey Cakes
Member
I will agree with this in a way. It's not always bad, but it's not always great either.
Is there something in the game that uses left and right on the d-pad? If not then I don't see why those couldn't be used for camera movement.
Also, to chime in on Motion+ aiming, it's quite good. I only have the slingshot, but while the idea of replacing the IR pointer with a motion-based one seemed odd at first, it actually lends itself to a more stable cursor in my experience.
Hot Coldman
Banned
i've enjoyed aspects of it. most people, even those who are complaining, still like the game.
nobody is losing sleep over their purchase I hope
Does playing it at 3am when I've got classes at 9am count as 'losing sleep'?
yes, that's the good type of sleep loss though!
Well maybe
i lost an entire weekend to Skyrim so i understand
EmCeeGramr
Member
Favorite innovation in the entire Zelda series is giving Link more and more freedom to be an absolute asshole to everyone he knows.
Pipit: Mom, you clearly have no control over spending. Our house is covered in filth because you're too lazy to clean. We need money so you can buy food and I can keep going to school and have a career. PLEASE. Stop paying someone money to clean our house. Also the way you're totally unfazed by this means you're probably drunk as hell.
Pipit: Oh God, Link. I... I didn't want you to overhear that. I have to go.
Link: *nods, runs inside house to get FUCKIN PAID before mentally reminding himself that 'yo pipit your mom paid me last night for a dirty job well done' is no longer on the tables*
Pipit: Oh God, Link. I... I didn't want you to overhear that. I have to go.
Link: *nods, runs inside house to get FUCKIN PAID before mentally reminding himself that 'yo pipit your mom paid me last night for a dirty job well done' is no longer on the tables*
Davey Cakes
Member
Honestly, you'd have to actively and irrationally hate on the game to actually "hate" it. Nintendo knows how to make a charming gameplay experience.
Slurpy2k20
Member
So, umm..where the hell is the pumpkin mini-game everyone is talking about? I'd say I'm close to the end of the game, have spent hrs exploring the sky and doing side-quests, yet I havent encountered it. I swear some things in this game are so hard to discover/come across, if it wasnt for the internet I wouldnt even know about them.
Also, skyloft is the most confusing town I've ever seen in a videogame. Doesnt help every fucking house looks the same, no differentiation, I stil get lost and need to set beacons on the map to get from point A to point B or Ill end up going in circles.
Also, skyloft is the most confusing town I've ever seen in a videogame. Doesnt help every fucking house looks the same, no differentiation, I stil get lost and need to set beacons on the map to get from point A to point B or Ill end up going in circles.
seriously even
if he was a regular person I would have been like "OK PLAYTIME IS OVER FUCK YOU SERIOUSLY "THE SCREAMING GAME?"
Paradoxal_Utopia said:
just + your map, 'cause each home is labeled with who is in it. And once you enter a house, it's always labeled with the person who lives in it name if you just walk up to the door
What about [sidequest spoilers]
seducing Peatrice even though he has a clear interest in Zelda? Or giving Cawlin's love letter to a ghost hand to use as toilet paper?
Skyrim??? whats your take on the combat system ???from what i've it looks atrocious...
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
My favourite is
giving the kid's love letter to the toilet ghost for what you assume will be to whip ghost ass, unintentionally causing a love affair between the two, the ghost fawning over the kid every night, causing his every sleep to be filled with nightmares.
"Yeah, screaming game. Sure, buddy."
her mom saying "oh, it's alright as long as she's with an adult". No, lady, it's not alright.
EmCeeGramr
Member
I think you need to complete a character's sidequest and you definitely need to have a certain item.
You... you need to set beacons to get around town?
it's not going to be setting any impressive world records in that department. It's typical hacky-slashy Elder Scrolls style, but with a better implemented magic system and feasible archery class. But its scale improvement comes in dungeon design, which is far better than its immediate predecessor and adds immensely to the feeling of individuality the game has.
Basically everyone needs to take pointers from Dark Souls/Demon souls.
EmCeeGramr
Member
That cry made the whole goddamned thing worth it. And also because that option means Karane and Pipit won't get together, because once again screw you Pipit. Also fuck you Fledge, because I helped you out and then you pull shit like standing there with the pumpkin for like 5 seconds during the Pumpkin Pull.
NO ONE CAN DENY OUR LOVE
A "responsible" one, even.
Haha I know. I was like "what what what!?"
What also made me LOL is how the father just doesn't give a shit. He's all
"Yo, my wife is such a paranoid mess. Find the girl to shut her the fuck up please." Later when you find him again, he's basically "thank god you found her for my wife."
Garcia
Member
So far one my favorite enemy has to be the
. Feels soooo good to unleash dozens of slashes on him every time! .
The post-3rd.dungeon story sequence was absolutely EPIC. I'm definitely liking this Zelda (character) a lot.
Favorite song (and which I keep humming sometimes) is the 3rd. Dungeon's background music. Still waiting to see what Kondo and Co. came up with, and I'm sooo digging the transitions during boss battles, they're so refreshing <3.
Red Goblin
.The post-3rd.dungeon story sequence was absolutely EPIC. I'm definitely liking this Zelda (character) a lot.
Favorite song (and which I keep humming sometimes) is the 3rd. Dungeon's background music. Still waiting to see what Kondo and Co. came up with, and I'm sooo digging the transitions during boss battles, they're so refreshing <3.
Also,
no gratitude crystals from him. He really doesn't give a shit.
EmCeeGramr
Member
I loved that because I just helped the girl with her bird and her brother and they were both super grateful and then he walks up and is all "Oh yeah good job making sure my daughter wasn't kidnapped I guess DOOT DE DOO DOO"
Neoriceisgood
Member
So I'm in the 5th dungeon now ... I think, I admit I have a lot of trouble figuring out what is or isn't a dungeon in this game.
On a side note, I think I've found an easy way to get almost any resource in the game right now, so once I make all my money back I feel a second serving of upgrades coming my way.
I loved the boss of the Ancient Cystern, ANCIENT AUTOMATION KOLOKTOS!!!
I swear, after beating him I still goofed around with his swords for at least a minute or two, feeling really sad about the fact that I couldn't bring one with me.
That entire fight was really ace though, beating the crap out of him with his own damn weapons must be one of the most satisfying experiences I've had during a boss fight in any game.
After that I was prepared to have a real hard time with the 2nd silent realm, because I've heard people on GAF say it was a lot trickier (?) than the first one ..but, I pretty much got it in one attempt. (two if you count my short lived experiment to see what the quicksand would do in the silent realm.. yeah.)
I'm in the Sandship now, which is.. dungeon 5? Though I didn't enter before spending almost all my money to upgrade my goddess shield to level 3, getting my last adventure pouch and doing something else that apparently wasn't important enough to remember.
I'm enjoying the game a lot right now though, I really like how the treasure hunting & side quests are a fun and easy stress relief to take your mind off of the intensity of some of the dungeons and bosses.
I swear, after beating him I still goofed around with his swords for at least a minute or two, feeling really sad about the fact that I couldn't bring one with me.
That entire fight was really ace though, beating the crap out of him with his own damn weapons must be one of the most satisfying experiences I've had during a boss fight in any game.
After that I was prepared to have a real hard time with the 2nd silent realm, because I've heard people on GAF say it was a lot trickier (?) than the first one ..but, I pretty much got it in one attempt. (two if you count my short lived experiment to see what the quicksand would do in the silent realm.. yeah.)
I'm in the Sandship now, which is.. dungeon 5? Though I didn't enter before spending almost all my money to upgrade my goddess shield to level 3, getting my last adventure pouch and doing something else that apparently wasn't important enough to remember.
I'm enjoying the game a lot right now though, I really like how the treasure hunting & side quests are a fun and easy stress relief to take your mind off of the intensity of some of the dungeons and bosses.
On a side note, I think I've found an easy way to get almost any resource in the game right now, so once I make all my money back I feel a second serving of upgrades coming my way.
Haha, yes!
Nicktendo86
Member
Just also finished the forth dungeon last night and loved every minute, definitely my highlight so far. Also had my first major issue with the controls, the sword calibration went waaaaay off a few times but I know it was because I was flailing like a madman. Other than that issue I had last night I have found the controls to be flawless and actually feel a little disappointed at the idea of possibly going back to traditional controls with WiiU.
That's odd. I haven't been having any of those problems. I almost never need to recalibrate, and my thrusts work out perfectly, probably 95% of the time.
Flying does suck, though. Which is too bad because it could have been good.
And the needless explanations from EVERYONE in the game is really annoying as well.
Aside from those two things, so far, I love it. But I'm only 13 hours in.
A tip for bokoblins, for people who are having trouble with them: once you land a single hit, just alternate slashes a couple more times til they're down. Like, if you land a hit from the right, just go left right left quickly.
I'm posting this after watching someone who had passed the first dungeon still struggling with the controls. I think of it like a rhythm game. And I love it.
Also (answer in spoilers): is it explained here why OoT's Kokiri wear the same clothes as Skyloftian knights? The past two games seemed to establish that OoT's Link was the one who established the "hero's clothes."
But then, Nintendo does appear to have completely erased Ezlo from history.
I'm posting this after watching someone who had passed the first dungeon still struggling with the controls. I think of it like a rhythm game. And I love it.
Also (answer in spoilers): is it explained here why OoT's Kokiri wear the same clothes as Skyloftian knights? The past two games seemed to establish that OoT's Link was the one who established the "hero's clothes."
But then, Nintendo does appear to have completely erased Ezlo from history.