Um, are you kidding? There are 2 others. You will not be able to hit one precisely because the other 2 DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |OT| Home of Punkin' Chunkin' Champion 2011
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Um, are you kidding? There are 2 others. You will not be able to hit one precisely because the other 2 DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
Incitemaybe
Member
I loved that fight!
I don't understand why people get angry instead of learning.
I beat them with my sword, shield, and strafing/ jumping backward. Was fun.
Didn't think to use bombs.....hope I get another chance at it
JimboJones
Member
Is it the part where he charges at you causing you bother? That what caused me to die first time round. I had to ask fi for help, you can use your spin attack to break his charge attack.
Lionheart1827
Member
I haven't even been using a shield the entire game. I feel bad you're having issues with that fight. Never really thought of using bombs like other people said, I kinda tried to get in a few swipes and then retreated a bit in a circular motion. I would just attack whoever was closer then retreat. I guess the Dark Souls side of me thought that was a pretty simple fight. If they cross their swords like an X, they are ready to fuck you up so back off when they do that.
Jzero
Member
The thing i did was to walk backwards and strike them while they are vulnerable, kill them one by one. It wasn't hard to beat them.
Do what i did on my 2nd attempt : Stay close to him and hit him everytime he's about to do his charging attack, it will cancel his attempt. Hit his red orbs in the same way they are aligned, which will make them disappear, and when he's on a defending position with his sword, just attack so he can't block it.
Was much easier than my 1st attempt where i tried to keep a safe distance from him... Bad idea, couldnt avoid him when he charged me.
demonturkey
Member
Completed my
And Groose is awesome.
first trial. Man that Silent Realm is intense, at first I thought it was going to be a boring fetch quest but it was pretty awesome and scary. The game had been pretty good up to that point, but now it feels like it's really starting to kick off.
And Groose is awesome.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Yeah, you can bomb the Stalfos, they lose their arms temporarily and you get free hits. It was easy as hell, but fun
JumpingTheGun
Banned
crazy how many of you are having trouble on the first boss. demons souls style. haha.
I suppose now that I had to leave the fucking temple to repair my shield (stupidest shit ever, why the fuck can shields break, it adds nothing) I guess I'll have to go through THE ENTIRE TEMPLE yet again. Because would it be too much to ask for the game to let you warp between statues in a temple? Yes.
radioheadrule83
Banned
You can actually warp to your last point in a temple. Leave a temple and when you next fly into the area you'll see "Inside <blah blah blah>" -- that should take you to the last bird you used.
Shields are a useful defence, but they're not strictly needed. You could probably get through the entire game without using one!
edit: actually, I might be mis-remembering. If the temple has no outdoor sections, you might not be able to warp there. I did drop in on a bird statue that was right outside the big key door
in Eldin Volcano
yYou will be able to buy a shield that repairs itself later in the game.
Metroid Killer
Member
Protip: If you get your ass handed to yourself, you may want to change your combat tactics. Usually there will always be some move that is more ffective than others.
Also having the shield break is a nice addition imo. You can't just hide behind all the time anymore, the risk of losing it makes you more aware of how you fight.
Also having the shield break is a nice addition imo. You can't just hide behind all the time anymore, the risk of losing it makes you more aware of how you fight.
WrenchNinja
Member
Yeah, the two step fast travel system is stupid.
Jzero
Member
Dude i barely even use my shields, i only keep buying the better ones because they look good. If they keep breaking that means you are not even using them right.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvtibfZZ2s8#t=5m49s
Maybe it's a little vague but I would not interpret that as "twist". That's a "tick tock" motion.
Garcia
Member
I've only beaten that on easy so far and was 1 hole short of beating Intermediate... I really don't think I'll be able to beat Expert, and I hope it's not holding a Heart Piece cuz' I'll go mad. lol
Once you learn to shield-bash it practically becomes indestructible, and it makes the battles much more easier.
The thing will break in one damn hit without upgrading, I just know it.
WrenchNinja
Member
See, that's exactly the problem. They did a poor job with the tutorial and so many people have gotten it wrong. You look at Super Mario Galaxy, you have a full square animation actually showing the motion, not any of this vagueness.
JimboJones
Member
He did feel more like a later game boss he required some patience and carful strikes, him and the stupid easy third boss should have been switched around.
My Quote you quoted was about the "tinny" sound from the rumble.
Nothing to do with motion controls.
The rumble also doesn't feel as nice.
Maybe this is why people were saying the controller is lighter.
They put in a lighter rumble motor that feels/sounds cheaper?
Lionheart1827
Member
I know, ugh. I kick ass at minesweeper, but I cant stand how much more luck you need with thrill digger. The green rupee thing is good, but the fact that the other rupees, like the blue rupee can have 1 OR 2 bombs, and the red can have 3 OR 4. Its all luck at that point :/
Is there any reason NOT to just waggle like a maniac against the normal red goblin enemies? I swear, with how slow you have to move to make Link change his stance and slash in another direction the goblins just auto block me every fucking time. If I swing the remote around crazily like an idiot I kill them much quicker every single time.
Metroid Killer
Member
Oh well, at least from what everybody says in this thread, the 4th dungeon should be one of the absolutely high points of the game.
Lionheart1827
Member
I just wait until they are about to attack then swipe the shit out of em.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Yeah, I fill that, that shit sucked ass. Fourth dungeon is AMAZING though, and the pre-fifth dungeon stuff is actually better then the fifth dungeon itself(in a good way).
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Haha, sorry MutFox, that must have been a lingering saved quote from when I replied to you before! Oh god I am not good with new NeoGAF features.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Don't hit them and watch them as you move your sword around. They prepare to block and stay there for a minimum amount of time... therefore like
Ghirahim
have electric batons that will hurt you if you strike prematurely
TheDrowningMan
Member
What the fuck? How is it even possible to struggle to hit them more often than not?
Metroid Killer
Member
Wouldn't surprise me. Nintendo are known for making minor hardware downgrades in order to shave off a few pennies. Rumble has been a joke in every wiimote more or less imo.
JimboJones
Member
Guess you can if you want, you will eventually get a hit in, as long as you get one hit in to break their defence your good to go to swipe them to death.
I just wait for an opening though, it's not that hard.
Splash Wave
Member
Am I missing something regarding camera control? Having to constantly re-center it behind Link with z-targeting feels quite bad.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
No, there's no way to
get over the lava lake in the Fire Sanctuary (or whatever that place on the summit is called).
Tried that yesterday,
he just says that I should come back when I have learned the three parts of the song from the dragons.
I'm convinced this is indeed a game-breaking bug. Everything is just like it should be at this point, except that for me that sequence never triggers. Thus, I am stuck and will have to replay the whole game to get to see the ending.
You have severely disappointed me with this one, Nintendo.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Sooo I just found this out, and maybe it's apparent to everyone else. Still, it might be useful if you're having trouble with errant swings:
It doesn't matter where your positioning is to swing your sword. No matter how Link is holding the sword, flicking your wrist left will always do a forehand swipe (right to left), flicking it right will do a backhand swipe. Same goes for up/down.
So even if you're holding the sword across Link's body (ready to do a backhand), if you flick your wrist further left Link will immediately come around with a forehand swipe. You only need to position your sword to fake out enemies. You don't need to bring it back around again for a different kind of swipe.
It doesn't matter where your positioning is to swing your sword. No matter how Link is holding the sword, flicking your wrist left will always do a forehand swipe (right to left), flicking it right will do a backhand swipe. Same goes for up/down.
So even if you're holding the sword across Link's body (ready to do a backhand), if you flick your wrist further left Link will immediately come around with a forehand swipe. You only need to position your sword to fake out enemies. You don't need to bring it back around again for a different kind of swipe.
Metroid Killer
Member
Unfortunately it's the only way to influence the camera.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Same, I was close to dying but I a lot of the time did spin attacks and hit 2 or 3 of them that way. It was a little tricky but once you find a strategy it's not that hard. Also bombs work and there is actually a bomb flower there in the fighting arena.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
To be fair, the Temples are designed to allow you to create various short-cuts as you go along reducing the amount of backtracking needed to return to the place you left off at.
Also, last night I did the whole 4th Dungeon part (pre-dungeon and dungeon), and I didn't mind the backtracking too much.
The swimming segment also wasn't that troublesome.
I liked the
Stalmaster
Anyone else having a problem with their gold Wiimote plus? I'm finally getting into Skyward Sword for the first time and at the Wii menu screen oftentimes the pointer is upside down and when I lay it on a flat surface it doesn't fix the problem. OTOH, my vanilla Wiimote with the Motion Plus attachment works fine without calibration. This pisses me off, I paid an extra $20 for a useless piece of swag.
Oh yeah that one was pretty awesome too haha.
Metroid Killer
Member
If Nintendo came forward and announced that there was a defunct in some of the Wiimotes from the LE bundle, suddenly this thread would make a lot more sense
Splash Wave
Member
Indeed. I figured the problem was with the Motion Plus in general, as this is my first experience with it. There have been times where I had to angle my remote toward the ceiling for it to actually pick up the pointer on the screen. Very strange.
If Nintendo came forward and announced that there was a defunct in some of the Wiimotes from the LE bundle, suddenly this thread would make a lot more sense
Yeah, I also noticed that when Skyward Sword prompts you to point the Wiimote at the center of the screen and press A, the standard Wiimote and attachment is fast but with the gold one, the pointer is sluggish.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
People need to read this, yes. I think the sword trainer guy could have stood to have a tutorial on faking out guard so people didn't think they had to laboriously re-position their sword after faking an enemy out for the real strike.
I had the exact same thoughts at that point in the game my first time through. I ended up stressing over it significantly as well. However, by my second time through
in Hero Mode
1) Backflip a fuckton. It ends up rather handy
2) Forget your shield for this particular battle. Unless you're facing Ghirahim, a Lizalfos, anything that shoots a projectile at you, or any fight similar in concept to these 3, DON'T USE YOUR SHIELD. It leads to frustration more than anything.
3) Don't think of it as focusing on one particular enemy to rid of him first. Keep backflipping in sort of a circular method until one any single one is vulnerable and do the necessary swipes on him. I think having one heart going in made me more conscious of taking a single attack and resulted in me slowing it down. It's unusual just how much slower battles need to go now (compared to what a Zelda fan is used to), but its the way to go for these sorts of battles.
4) Use bombs if you like. They're a little difficult to make work well in this battle if you keep moving as the enemies keep moving. I found it just lengthened the battle more than it needed to be in this case.
In general, if you don't like the sword, use bombs more, it helps take alot of the stress away. In the earlier stages of
Hero Mode where you lose double the life from a hit
It was why I found Ghirahim so difficult my first time playing through the game (on my second right now). I was able to beat him with no fairies and no shield (mine had broken within the dungeon. The timing delay between nunchuck shake and shield bash was bizarre and a single hit from an enemy caused far too much a loss in shield life) with some crazy timing, backflipping, and strafing. I thought it was the hardest boss in a Zelda ever. I was getting beyond frustrated as none of my swipes of my sword would do as I wanted (caveat: I'm a lefty). At that point in the game I hadn't figured out how to quickly swipe certain directions. I still can't get thrust to work most of the time (Lizalfos are such a bitch). I swear the battle that I successfully rid of him took 20 minutes.
My second time through, I didn't take a single hit, had a shield ready, and wrapped him up in about 3 minutes.
I do think the battle does a poor job of making clear just what way Ghirahim is holding his fingers in the battle at the start. I think for later boss battles where swipe direction matters, the direction to swipe is much clearer.
I also had a far better control of my swipe direction. As I said though, I still can't do thrust. It is pretty clearly broken.
Ya, pacing around there sucks. Whenever you go back to Faron, you'll find pacing sucks. Faron Woods is perhaps the worst rehashed region ever in a Nintendo game (you'll see why post 6th dungeon). Once you get to the 4th Dungeon, things will be better, trust me. 4th-6th will be a nicer experience. The
Silent Realm
Its post-6th. So no you haven't. I nearly ragequit over the stupid event.
Rehashed Stage + Underwater + Collectathon + Shitton of items to collect + the string of notes requires them to be collected all together prromptly = Nintendo's Cruel Joke on Gamers Everywhere