Hot Coldman
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I fucking love the swimming. It's like a slower version of Zora Link, right down to the leaps you can do out of water. The motion controls make it quicker to actually get beneath the water and to resurface, IMO.
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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |OT| Home of Punkin' Chunkin' Champion 2011
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I fucking love the swimming. It's like a slower version of Zora Link, right down to the leaps you can do out of water. The motion controls make it quicker to actually get beneath the water and to resurface, IMO.
I feel like they had to think this too, but I just don't get it. Considering the first artwork of the game was Link + Fi and that's all we had to go on for awhile, I expected much more out of her.
Someone posted a video of DSP's playthrough where he didn't know how to do a spin attack. He seriously did not seem to comprehend what "horizontally" meant, so...yeah. I'm not really sure to what extent tutorials need to be going to cater to certain people, but as handholdy as Fi is, she does not seem to even be effective.
I'm sorry, sir, but you seem to have hit the wrong key here.
EmCeeGramr
Member
I intuited it pretty fast. Link is the controller. Tilt controller like you're tilting Link. Then I swam.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
My biggest problem is the transition. Controlling the beetle/your Loftwing isn't as jarring because the game gives you a small window of time to transition from control stick movement to complete motion controlling. Going underwater is instantaneous, and it takes a moment for your brain and wrist to adjust.
It controls very well, but it is disorienting.
You are EmCeeGramr. You are a god among men.
ShockingAlberto
Member
With regard to the original artwork, I kind of wonder if the game was originally supposed to be about Link and Fi and was changed to be more about Link and Zelda.
That was over two years ago, after all.
That was over two years ago, after all.
Eyemus Lutt
Member
Majoras Mask had no memorable dungeons, It was a decent game but a poor Zelda game.
Unhandled Exception
Member
Still waiting for my preorder. Fuck this shit.
She kinda is at the beginning of the game.
She tells you right in front of the headmaster that Link is a lazy bum and won't win the race, then you pushes Link off the edge of Skyloft, not believing him when he says he can't sense his bird.
At the very least, she's crazy.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I don't see how. This isn't Metroid: Other M level of writing, she's pretty damn robotic and I don't see how much they could screw that up.
It'd be good if we ever got an Iwata asks that went into depth about all this sort of stuff. That'd be really interesting.
I haven't finished SS so I can't really comment of Fi's overall importance, but judging from the original artwork, she was a much bigger focus than she is now.
Yeah. I don't mean to suggest she had a different personality in Japanese, but perhaps the whole automated-robot things works a lot better in Japanese. I really have no idea though, lol.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I wish she was a bigger focus. The
are amazing, and I wish she had become an actual character.
dancing segments
Some of her lines were pretty funny. If all of her dialog was like that she would have been great.
Yeah, mainly at the start of the game, her dialogue was funny in that it played on the whole "not understanding human emotions and traditions etc" aspect. But they dropped that pretty quickly once the game got kickstarted.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
*my note bolded*
The only thing I truly dislike are the
silent realms
I also think OoT is overrated. The only reason is that it was the first "3d" zelda game that wasn't horrible. Alot of people suspected that zelda could suffer from the transission even after the sucess of mario 64.
The puzzles only feel long. I thought it took me 30min to complete a puzzle when it actually took 10min.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I do think OoT has had the best pacing of any 3D Zelda game (although MM was no slouch)
My favorite was before dungeon
6 when she comments that she is 90% sure the next flame is somewhere in this active volcano and Link should look for flames.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
The pacing was absoutly well done
That's what they do.
shadyspace
Banned
End-game spoiler:
Ghirahim being Fi's counterpart leans towards that being the case.
Crash Station
Member
How the hell do you get the baby rattle out of the bird's nest? Even waited around for Beadle's shop to come by and it was still in the wrong position.
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Is it just me, or does the cutscenes direction drop from "hey this is kind of great" to the typical "video game camera angles and cuts" after the first few hours? Watching some of those cutscenes now feels like a completely different game than most everything else in it. Much like Twilight Princess, there are a bunch of ideas and concepts that are mentioned there that are never brought up again in favour of the typical "save the world" storyline. But it's more than just narrative beats, I'm talking about the actual direction of the cinematics. They feel like they were made by a different team, or something.
thats kind of how i want swimming to feel...
can you imagine doing huge underwater parts with OoT style swimming? hell no
the (post dungeon 6 spoiler)
tadtones part
neoism
Member
WTF.. I was high and drink when I first played... I haven't had to reconnect once. Controls are great... these girls are retarded... sad I though Chobot was a gamer. really hot though.
Hmm...
Gratitude Crystals down, not sure where the last set is. I am missing one thing on my menu,
which I'm guessing is what I need. What is it?
75
inbetween the letter and the rattle
You need the hookshot. Grab on to a floating island to get up to the waterfall area at the top, and skydive off it of into the nest.
Crash Station
Member
Ah, had no idea you could do that. Thanks. Just got it too.
Hobbestetrician
Member
No, the thread existed before the episode.
shadyspace
Banned
Talk to Beedle.
kunonabi
Member
I didn't notice any major shift in the cutscene direction but the story felt like tons of stuff got dropped. I think it probably went from a more focused story on the Master Sword to a weak attempt at explaining multiple origins. There was just something missing about the story that I can't quite put my finger on.
He doesn't say anything. I bought out his entire store too.
At night he's sitting by the campfire with his beetle in a cage.
shadyspace
Banned
Guess it hasn't triggered yet. Where are you progress-wise? If you don't know (and want to),
the beetle's the silhouetted item that you have to retrieve for him
I have to go talk to Levias, I got all three pieces of the song. Seems pretty late to trigger then, haha.
Nooope. I'll look for that.
so having a day to reflect (A WHOLE DAY!) and i think i'd place the current order of the 3d games like this:
tp
ss
mm
oot
tww
i haven't played tww in 7 years, but everything else is something i've replayed in the last five years, so it's a bit fresher in my mind. oot was an awesome, awesome huge awesome game in 1998. in 2011 it's small and extremely simple. it still has the best pacing of the 3d games, but i can't take anyone serious when they say the forest temple is currently one of the best dungeons in the series.
mm only has one great dungeon, and the majority of the game's worth comes from its sidequests. twilight princess is more uneven than skyward sword, but i found the puzzles consistently very good. skyward sword suffers from the same problem super mario galaxy had: uninteresting hub world you can fly around in, and it's super easy for the most part of the game, but the later parts are a lot better and what the game should have started out as.
the most disappointing thing about skyward sword is that it's destined to be a one-off for the series. i would love nintendo to revisit motion controls like these in a sequel, and add some complexity to the puzzles, but i think it's pretty obvious the tablet will be what they use to make the next one. on the plus side, we'll probably have the return of the dungeony overworld and orchestrated music. not to mention some sort of cel-shading with a diffferent art style.
tp
ss
mm
oot
tww
i haven't played tww in 7 years, but everything else is something i've replayed in the last five years, so it's a bit fresher in my mind. oot was an awesome, awesome huge awesome game in 1998. in 2011 it's small and extremely simple. it still has the best pacing of the 3d games, but i can't take anyone serious when they say the forest temple is currently one of the best dungeons in the series.
mm only has one great dungeon, and the majority of the game's worth comes from its sidequests. twilight princess is more uneven than skyward sword, but i found the puzzles consistently very good. skyward sword suffers from the same problem super mario galaxy had: uninteresting hub world you can fly around in, and it's super easy for the most part of the game, but the later parts are a lot better and what the game should have started out as.
the most disappointing thing about skyward sword is that it's destined to be a one-off for the series. i would love nintendo to revisit motion controls like these in a sequel, and add some complexity to the puzzles, but i think it's pretty obvious the tablet will be what they use to make the next one. on the plus side, we'll probably have the return of the dungeony overworld and orchestrated music. not to mention some sort of cel-shading with a diffferent art style.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Is it possible to actually have more than 20 hearts with the life medals?
you just have to believe
Sooo, I'm nearing the end, right?
and hooooo boy, the part I'm guessing most reviewers bitched about...
Got 3/4 of the Song of the Hero
I really didn't like the fetch quest in the flooded woods. Why did I have to wait til I collected 2/3 of the notes on my own to be able to dowse? Fuck. Didn't mind the one near Eldin Volcano so much, though... that means I'm doing Lanayru last. Hope I don't hit that game-breaking bug!
06nbarnhill
Member
Just finished. Great game and only a handful of complaints in general. Probably in my top 5 games of this generation. That said......I hafta say I think Twilight Princess was the better game for me in terms of tone, characters, dungeons, and world.....it really does kill me though. The #1 think I love about TP is the massive epic scope the game and the regions.
I see what you did there.
You're too early for that. Just keep checking on Beedle.
Yeah, that's what I loved about TP as well. But this time it really is a new sense of discovery. You feel like you know the areas by heart when you finished, like you squeezed every inch of life they had once you're done.
I can't say which one I like better. A combination of both would be ideal.
Hobbestetrician
Member
I never get this complaint (and see it everywhere). Was every game before this generation garbage because of the hardware? Is it not possible to make great games and innovate because of the hardware instead of just throwing everything in to make the game 'bigger'?
The rest of the complaints read like they have either never played a Zelda game before or have never played ANY game before and are terrible.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Kina from the Lumpy Pumpkin is way cuter, dude.
Yes or no?
I need to know. I just paid Beedle 800 rupees and immediately found a Life Medal in a chest. I feel infuriated.
shadyspace
Banned
Really wish the game would have had some sort of tunic progression system. I don't like looking exactly the same at the outset of my adventure as I do at the end.