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[Corderlain]

Well again what happened to Palestine wasn't genocide. They don't deserve a country.

 

[Darkking2001]

Once again I don' think it's reached that stage yet but it could in the future. I'm to responding to you basically saying
"this shits happened in the past all the time whatever"
Jon Neu's "mass genocides"

When I'm telling you that's not how most conflicts go. It's not a "whatever" thing it's one of the most fucked up things humans do and shouldn't just be freaking hand waved as "it happens".

 

[cryptoadam]

You should have said that to the millions of jews that "returned" to Palestine in a wave of illegal immigration.

Immigration to Palestine was not illegal. LON and 1920 Sam Remo conference recognized the right to close settlement and the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. It was 100% legal for the Jews to RETURN to Israel and to create their state.

Jews went ILLEGALLY to the land. And they went there with the only intention of stealing Palestine from the palestinians, that's why they were so heavily armed. It was literally an invasion. Palestinians did what other people would have done if a wave of illegal immigrants suddenly say their country is theirs now: defend themselves.

Jew Legally went there with the permission of the LON and as per the Palestinian mandate and BOUGHT land. Heavily armed LOL? Jews had nearly 0 armed support and needed to get outdated weapons. The only invasion was that of the Arabs in the 7th and 8th century after the Romans exiled most of the Jews in the 1st and 2nd century. And there was never a country of Palestine. Can you tell me the borders of "Palestine" in 1917 and then 1922?

Yeah, how we can call supremacist a state created under the premise that Israel is the choosen people and therefore have the godly right to steal the land of the Palestinians/Canaanites because they made up God said so. Not supremacist at all.

More BS showing that you don't know what you are talking about. Israel wasn't created that Jews were chosen people with the right to steal land. It was created because Jews suffered centuries of discrimination and oppression and were excercising their rights as a nation to self determination. And again Jews came to Palestine and BOUGHT the land they didn't steal it. No wonder you are so angry you are being fed BS that Jews steal land and that God told them they could LOL

And treating the palestinians the way they are treating them is also not supremacist at all. Hitler would be proud.



How many jews in Palestine? Well, Palestine is a third world country with areas where there are not even sanitized water. I wonder how is possible than jews prefer to be in the rich Israel they made on the backs and dead bodies of the oppresed and poor Palestine, instead of living drinking polluted water. Truly a mistery.

95% of Palestinians live under the control of the PA or Hamas, take it up with them how they run the areas they are in charge of.

Rich Israel, look at Israel 70 years ago and look at it today and the reason it is rich has nothing to do with poor Palestinans and everything to do with Jewish and ingenuity to build their country from nothing to a super power today. And if the Palestinians made peace they could enjoy that as well but instead they fight tooth and nail against "normalization". Even today Abbas and Hamas are fighting against humantiarin plans for Gaza because they don't want to sell out their "rights". Its the Palestinian leaders that are getting rich of the poor oppressed and dead bodies of Palestinians. Hamas spent 45 Million dollars on the Great return Marchs while Gaza is falling apart. Palestinians burned the Karem crossing about a month ago and turned away Israeli supplies and are now crying that the crossing is closed.

But its okay keep hating and pushing the Palestinians to hate and do stupid things. The more you do it the stronger Israel gets. Usefull fools like you are critical in making Israel stronger. If it wasn't for people like you the Arabs would of accepted partition in 37 and 47 but instead they didn't. If wasn't for people like you the Arabs wouldn't of attacked Israel multiple times and lost the WB and Gaza to Israel. If it wasn't for people like you the Palestinians would of made peace and have East Jerusalem as its capital. The more you hate the more Israel grows stronger.

Its the 8th most powerful country in the world. Jeursalem is its capital, its GDP just past Japan and is on Western European level. it has the 25th strongest economy in the world, the 11th most happiest people in the world. Its a start up nation a tech superpower and a military super power. Its been 70 years and all of the hate and stupidy has turned Israel into a super power so keep on pushing the Arabs to make the same stupid mistakes over and over again LOL. People like you are what make Israel thrive and continue to keep the Arabs in misery.

 

[cryptoadam]

The United Nations created Israel. The area of Palestine used to be part of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire launched an offensive attack against Russia during WW1. And they lost. So that's how it goes.

I do want to correct you that the UN did not create Israel. The UN suggested partition in the UNGA which is non binding anyways. The Arabs rejected it as well.

Israel was created by Zionist returning to their homeland starting in the 1850's. And then 600 000 Jews made up mainly of refugees and holocaust surivors fought off 7 Arab armies that were trained and armed by the British to create their state. It has nothing to do with the anti-semetic UN that has spent the last 70 years doing everything it can to break real INTERNATIONAL LAW that recognized the historical connection of the Jewish people to the land of Palestine and gave them the right to create a national home and closed settlement between the Jordan and the Mediterranean sea through the LON and in 1920 Sam Remo conference.

I give the UN no credit at all and it has done everything to undermine Israel at every turn.

 

[cryptoadam]

The map from OP:

So whats the difference between this map and a map from 1995 Oslo II showing Area's A and B?

These are the exact same maps IMO. Can someone tell me the difference?

So Obama based his decisions on a 20 year old map? The map that the entire peace process was essentially based on? All this map seems to be showing is Areas A and B as per Oslo II unless someone can point out differences.