JohnnyFootball
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Cerebus from Mass Effect 2 IMO was fantastic. The Illusive Man was one of my favorite characters in that you always understood where he was coming from.
Sadly, they turned them into a freakshow for ME3.
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Cerebus from Mass Effect 2 IMO was fantastic. The Illusive Man was one of my favorite characters in that you always understood where he was coming from.
Sadly, they turned them into a freakshow for ME3.
If they are moving the game to a new galaxy, they need to get the Citadel and other trademark stuff there too. So what if the Citadel is the ark, a life boat, a chance for a new beginning, a new hope? It's packed with all possible races and familiar technology, Normandy, Mako etc. after all.
At the beginning of the game, it's made clear that after the Reaper wars, everything is lost, the milky way can't sustain life as it is and like 5 hours in, they could fly Citadel through a worm hole/mass relay to a new galaxy, then fade to black -> 1000 years later -> a brand new galaxy with citadel, known races spread all over plus tons of new, familiar tech and stuff but no old baggage. Perfect combination.
At the beginning of the game, it's made clear that after the Reaper wars, everything is lost, the milky way can't sustain life as it is and like 5 hours in, they could fly Citadel through a worm hole/mass relay to a new galaxy, then fade to black -> 1000 years later -> a brand new galaxy with citadel, known races spread all over plus tons of new, familiar tech and stuff but no old baggage. Perfect combination.
I still feel that the portrayal of Cerberus in ME2 is the odd man out.
The Cerberus of ME3 lines up somewhat well with the Cerberus of ME1, honestly. It's still not a perfect match, but at least they're both totally villainous organizations.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's not difficult to understand, honestly; they're putting their best face forward towards Shepard.
I know that, just meant that they had no presence.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
If it aint Michael McCann, I won't care too much.
Yes, I am aware that he did not compose any of the other games.
Hyperzephyrian
Banned
Setting ME4 in a different galaxy doesn't let them avoid addressing the ending of ME3.
You still have to answer the same questions: Did Shepard even choose to save the current cycle, or was it left to the next one? If so, did synthesis occur? And are the krogan, quarians, and geth still alive? (Unless you want the only aliens you encounter to be turians, asari, and salarians, and the others are just never referenced again.)
Since you're going to play as a human, I assume that the cycle was saved, ruling out the "refusal" ending. If they've already ruled out one ending, I see no reason why they shouldn't just choose whichever ending gives them the fewest problems and roll with it.
Regardless, all those questions need to be answered, whether the setting is the Milky Way or Andromeda.
If it's not a sequel, however, you don't need to answer any of those questions. But that also means that there's then no reason to set the game in another galaxy, since the game's canon hasn't been broken yet.
You still have to answer the same questions: Did Shepard even choose to save the current cycle, or was it left to the next one? If so, did synthesis occur? And are the krogan, quarians, and geth still alive? (Unless you want the only aliens you encounter to be turians, asari, and salarians, and the others are just never referenced again.)
Since you're going to play as a human, I assume that the cycle was saved, ruling out the "refusal" ending. If they've already ruled out one ending, I see no reason why they shouldn't just choose whichever ending gives them the fewest problems and roll with it.
Regardless, all those questions need to be answered, whether the setting is the Milky Way or Andromeda.
If it's not a sequel, however, you don't need to answer any of those questions. But that also means that there's then no reason to set the game in another galaxy, since the game's canon hasn't been broken yet.
I'd definitely like Michael McCann but I wouldn't mind if Jack Wall and Sam Hulick return
I doubt it. If they do announce a name, it'll likely end up like the Clint Mansell thing where they get a "name" who does a handful of tracks, while the bulk of the soundtrack is composed by somebody else.
I wish he did a handful of tracks instead of 2.
StoppedInTracks
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Let's assume ME4 takes place in a different galaxy. You and your team on the ARK travels there via last Mass Relay before they are destroyed/ disabled whatever. You do the main quest whatever that is.
Now imagine if in ME5 you take that team and get back to Milky Way (somehow) and it is all destroyed and shit. All the nebulas and etas mixed together, planets collided, Earth nowhere to be found... how cool that would be?
ME5: In Search of Eden
or..what if a deep-space exploration mission discovered ANOTHER Citadel, run by strange new alien species? -Inception horns-
Sounds a bit too much like Voyager or BSG ;o
Poodlestrike
Banned
Sure it does, they just have to depart before the end of ME3.
The ARK idea also naturally gravitates to the idea of it being set prior to the end of ME3.
Why are they sending an ark? Because of the Reapers.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Precisely. A backup plan, in case the Crucible fails to deliver, or maybe even predating its discovery.
No longer own last gen systems
StoppedInTracks
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Poodlestrike
Banned
Smells like Interstellar
Hey, if you're going to steal, steal from the best, says I.
Hyperzephyrian
Banned
The Artisan
Member
I agree. Honestly I can totally see them setting the game in a new galaxy or galaxies, but I'd really rather them keep it all in the milky way. There are 300 billion stars/solar systems right in the milky way galaxy, which means there's so much of it that could still be explored. there's no need to broaden the scope and go to a new galaxy.
when I first played ME, I appreciated how they kept things within the confines of the milky way galaxy. this is science fiction, but it added a level of realism imo.
But the reason to set it in another galaxy is so you don't break the canon.
Also: Exploration and new species are cool.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Not really. It's still a sequel, in the sense that the majority of it takes place after ME3, and that any sequel to it will take place entirely after ME3, all without breaking anybody's canon.
The Artisan
Member
ah, fuck. that is certainly a possibility.
i sure hope there's a chance sony can get ea access onto Ps4 this year
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's not like you won't purchase ME4 if they dont!
I expect it before Mass Effect is released. I think is just a deal they have with Microsoft, just like Titanfall, Peggle and Garden Warfare.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
The deal with EA Access is nothing remotely close to the deal MS had for those games.
There is nothing that should lead anyone to believe that MS will get a timed exclusive for Mass Effect 4.
I was talking about EA Acces, not ME4
There actually is, depending on your definition of "timed exclusive".
As has been said, I expect there to be a period of exclusivity on EA Access where XBox One players will be able to play the game for a limited time prior to release.
I believe Dragon Age Inquisition let XBox One EA Access members play for 5 hours? I expect the same for ME4.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Im talking about the timed exclusive period for the games he mentioned. Although Titanfall will not come to PS4. Those games had mere months of an exclusive period.
Major difference from EA Access. Major difference.
He was talking about EA Access?
DOWN
Banned
It's an Access thing. Has nothing to do with Xbox and was available on PC. They have confirmed the Access premiere will happen for Battlefront this holiday.
There's no indication of who is marketing or partnering for exclusivity for a game based on its Access pre-release trial. If Access comes to PS4 eventually, it will get the same premiere timing as everyone else.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Ok, now I see what he is saying.
Eh, EA Access isn't that big of a deal. Being able to get things early just doesn't entice me all that much.
EA has got to be the least interesting publishers as far as Im concerned.
Bethesda, Take Two and Ubisoft would have my interest far more. Although, I have such a love hate relationship with Ubisoft.
anexanhume
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DA:I sold better on PS4 despite not having the marketing deal or the timed DLC exclusivity.
I seemed to have caused some confusion so I will further clarify. I see EA Access not as Sony saying no but Microsoft working a deal for for a year exclusivity, just like Titanfall exclusivity, and the timed exclusivity for Garden Warfare and Peggle, it is all part of a wider deal.
I see EA Access on PS4 before the end of the year.
I don't want to turn this topic into an EA Access debate so we can nip it is the bud here please.
I see EA Access on PS4 before the end of the year.
I don't want to turn this topic into an EA Access debate so we can nip it is the bud here please.
Fata1moose
Banned
Could be something that was created during the events of Mass Effect 3, could also be something they made in case they didn't kill all of the Reapers. They only destroyed Reapers in the Milky Way, maybe they built the Ark in case there are more.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I'd like to, but first: do you think that Sony was lying when they said they refused to allow EA Access on their platform?
Lying in the same way Microsoft says Tomb Raider is exclusive. If you look at the response they gave for EA Access they up played there own service.
If you look at the response they gave for Tomb Raider they up played there first party studios and the fact they don't buy exclusive deals.
To me it sounds like standard PR statement because they can't talk about it.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I guess, man. To me it sounds like they declined to have it on their platform because they didn't want it competing with their service.
Dandy Lyin
Member
It still doesn't explain why EA doesn't offer it through Origin.
To me the two statements reads the same but I am surprised I am alone on that opinion. People call out Microsoft on their exclusives PR all the time. If Sony do it, it is gospel truth. They had to comment, they up played their own service.
It is business courtesy to not break these deals like after Microsoft announced the Tomb Raider exclusive, Sony coming along saying 10 minutes later announcing that it will be on PS4 by June 2016, it is not good business practice.
If I really wanted to stretch this to its limit I could say Greenbergs Battlefront comment would be proof on Microsoft exclusivity. EA and Sony could work out a deal tomorrow but the fact he is saying that now before they even give a release date points he knows more than he is saying. But as I said that part is a stretch to the point of conspiracy theory.
This as well. You think PC would have EA Access as well. If it was Sony saying No it would be on PC anyway.
Okay, too off topic and I won't comment on it any further this is a Mass Effect thread after all.
Poodlestrike
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Two different reasons, I'd imagine. Maybe they just didn't figure the market was there on PC, or maybe there's some technical limitation. Dunno.
Anyway, Mass Effect! That shot everybody thought was the citadel is probably the Ark, good catch dude-on-last-page.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Man, we really convinced ourselves that it will be about ARK (like Noah's) and shit. Impressive. I will be kinda disappointed now if it does not feature an Ark with known species, ha.
Dandy Lyin
Member
All this talk about Mass Effect almost tempted me to replay the series. Then I saw how much they are charging for Leviathan, Omega, and Citadel and said fuck that. $40 for 3 year old DLC seems insane, especially since you can buy ME1-3 for $20 right now on Origin.
wolfhowwl
Banned
No used games on PC?
Poodlestrike
Banned
It just fits so well!
Plus, it could act like your Skyhold, which I loved.
A little more customization and progression would be nice, though.
I expect a Star Trek Voyager or Stargate Atlantis type game.
I expect they will find something new with the relays and be able to use them to escape the Galaxy. A bit like the eight chevron in Stargate. Meet a villainous race they continued to evolved with no Reaper presence to stop them.
Or an advanced entity abducts a ship like the Caretaker.
I expect they will find something new with the relays and be able to use them to escape the Galaxy. A bit like the eight chevron in Stargate. Meet a villainous race they continued to evolved with no Reaper presence to stop them.
Or an advanced entity abducts a ship like the Caretaker.
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