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That doesn't really make much sense, Shepard was brought back to Cerberus for the very specific task of stopping the collectors. ME3 makes it clear that they showed him their vest/cleanest face, not the most honest one. Having him go up against the Alliance and other friendly forces in ME2 or 3 would have been counter productive to the Illusive Man.
The Artisan
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anybody ever play minecraft with the mass effect mod?
Darth Smurf X
Member
It's the ONLY way I play that game now.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Shepard would NEVER have fought against the Alliance. That argument fails.
The Artisan
Member
I see. I only just jumped in and tested it out, I think since I didn't pay for it is just a demo. How different is it from the regular?
Again, you spend 2 games fighting Cerberus.
Cerberus is responsible for the most traumatic moment of Sole Survivor's Shepard's life.
If there's something to dislike, it's how Shepard works with them at all. That's the incongruity.
The Artisan
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if the alliance was ignoring human abductions, it's for the galaxy's best to work with cerberus if they're the only ones who give a shit.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Yes. I never felt like it was a stretch to be working with Cerberus.
The Artisan
Member
yap. I only didn't like how they handled the transition into Me3, making them the main villain instead of those giant monsters reaping the galaxy.
The Artisan
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that's not what the narrative of Me2 made it seem. but no, I don't fully remember vega's backstory other than he tried taking on the collectors and I don't know what "VS" is.
Don't play with my heart.
The Artisan
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take it as hope.
"Virmire Survivor" aka Kaidan and Ashley, who were also looking into the human abductions.
The Virmire Survivor. Who was busy secretly setting up defenses for the colonies. Remember Horizon?
I'm not saying the Alliance was doing a perfect job, but they were definitely doing stuff, despite what the IM claimed. It's entirely possible Shepard would have been able to stop things if she worked with the Alliance.
Shepard was in contact with Hackett while "with" Cerberus in ME2. It's actually a good deal, Hackett gets Shepard to take advantage of Cerberus resources to fight the collectors in ME2, and return to the Alliance in full once the mission is complete.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's decent hope.
I mean why post it on Twitter when he is (presumably) fully capable of asking in person or email.
exmachina64
Banned
To laugh as NeoGAF debates what it means for a couple of pages.
The Artisan
Member
oh, right. thanks.
yes I remember horizon. everyone in Me2 was shunning shepard for working with cerberus, and I thought at first the game wanted the player to just have an ambiguous mindset of what cerberus was supposed to be but instead, come Me3 the in-game suspicion all turned out to be true.
anyways, as far as the alliance goes, if they were as serious about finding the humans as cerberus then they should've trusted shepard, and worked together. the council which is bigger than the alliance wasn't caring either although it was just a threat to humans, but still.
by the way with all this talk of cerberus and the alliance, i just wanted to say that the normandy was way cooler looking as a cerberus vessel than an alliance one.
huh? I only remember shepard talking to hackett in Me2 during arrival. that's it.
Frankly, the shunning makes sense. Shepard was lucky they didn't shoot at her.
Cerberus was responsible for the death of at least one admiral and two squads of marines. They commonly employed subterfuge to achieve their ends. They were clearly a hostile organization and Shepard was missing for two years. The VS is in the right on Horizon. Shepard should have turned herself in for a debrief at that point.
They exchanged messages.
MadScientist
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
These people are professionals. Nothing is gained by doing that.
The Artisan
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shepard was lucky who didn't shoot at who? and, how much was cerberus involved in Me1?
I get what you're saying here, but... I would've much rather liked to have proved VS wrong when they kept saying "you're working with the enemy, they're working with the collectors" like yes cerberus and TIM have done horrible stuff and cerberus's MO in Me3 is everything the player probably expected but I would've rather had something occur that would make the alliance and the council say something like "we were wrong and for once cerberus was doing the right thing"
as far as your last statement about shepard coming in for a debriefing, I suppose yeah that would've been cool. considering of course the fact that there weren't even that many story missions in Me2.
who?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
OH BOY!!!
Its fanmade
The Artisan
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oh my god, till I read your goddamn spoiler note -_- I was gonna post thisOH BOY!!!
Its fanmade
exmachina64
Banned
Hackett. Shephard and Hackett emailed each other during ME2.
I was saying Shepard is lucky that the VS didn't treat Shepard as hostile, given that she was with Cerberus.
Cerberus was involved in a bunch of side quests, most of which involved it having murdered Alliance squads, officers or civilians.
They killed a squad on Akuze to study Thresher Maws, they killed Admiral Kahoku's men on Edolus, and then they killed Kahoku himself when he looked for answers.
Richard the Lionheart
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Not yet, but that would be the only motivation to play Minecraft- to get my Mass Effect fix.
Hackett and Liara to get his tags back to Shepard when he eventually returned, later Hackett and Shepard to inform him of the memorial iirc.
OH BOY!!!
Its fanmade
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
The tonal whiplash from the Cerberus in ME1 to the Cerberus in ME2 (and the reversion in ME3) is one of the biggest complaints I have with the series.
If they'd been more of a Shadow-Broker-esque, (ominous, but not flat-out villainous) presence it could have worked out better, but with how much direct 'evilness' they showed, having them suddenly be the Saviors, and the Council/Alliance revert to pre-Sovereign levels, is pretty out there.
If they'd been more of a Shadow-Broker-esque, (ominous, but not flat-out villainous) presence it could have worked out better, but with how much direct 'evilness' they showed, having them suddenly be the Saviors, and the Council/Alliance revert to pre-Sovereign levels, is pretty out there.
The Artisan
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oh, okay. I should look into that, I never took a full read out of the emails.
same man =(
well that would've been a big mistake for VS if they did. and in the end, you were a hero again in Me2, it wasn't all for nothing, so VS shouldn't have walked away from shepard on horizon.
lol, if that's why you'd play it you might as well play one of the actual games...
was this through emails? I don't remember shepard getting his tags back in Me2.
JeffG
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I broke down and bought 1,2,3 from Origins on this last sale ($15)
Just in case they don't release it for the Xbox 1
JeffG
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Shadow Broker DLC IIRC
TheUnsunghero26
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Funny thing is, if you zoom into the text on back of the box, you can see it says "Xbox Live" in the legal text haha.OH BOY!!!
Its fanmade
Hackett gave his tags to Liara who gave them to Shepard in Shadow Broker. Liara kept Hackett in the know in terms of what happened with his body I think.
You're using information that the VS didn't have to justify why they were wrong.
The VS was right not to trust Shepard on Horizon, and to totally question her on her actions and motives.
That whole conversation is super poorly written.
silver moose
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That box art though!
Oh hey what's this spoiler...
Son of a...!
😢
I can't imagine it wouldn't be worth it for Bioware to get a remastered trilogy out the door. Maybe E3 will give us a remaster announcement along with the inevitable tease for ME4 that they'll show.
Oh hey what's this spoiler...
Son of a...!
😢
I can't imagine it wouldn't be worth it for Bioware to get a remastered trilogy out the door. Maybe E3 will give us a remaster announcement along with the inevitable tease for ME4 that they'll show.
The Artisan
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OK. I don't remember any of that from my playthroughs of shadow broker but i'll take your word for it.
Yes, I'll agree with you there. That makes sense to me now that you said it.
As for your first statement, VS says they would've followed shepard anywhere, well they should've trusted shepard there too. they weren't wrong - the game ended with you saving the day, after all.
yes, but it could just be nothing but concept art.
or the milkomeda galaxy, several billion years after milky way and andromeda have collided. which would technically mean it's not a new setting.
You make it almost sound like Destiny in a good way, what Destiny could have been but by Bioware.
StoppedInTracks
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A few pages back I asked about ME3 DLC. I bought them all and played through the following:
1) Just beat the Omega DLC in ME3. So, so good and long. Loved how bad-ass Aria is. My 100% Paragon Shepard blew Petrovsky's brains the fuck out in the end because, hey, nobody fucks with Omega!. And having the final battle in the Afterlife club. Genious.
Incredible visuals in the DLC as well - Omega's skyline when climbing that one ladder with Aria, the mines (crazy geometry). Having Aria and the other girl setting up camps was very nice and allowed for the such needed pacing space between Atlas fights.
Very, very good DLC right on par with the Lair of the Shadow Broker for me even if Lair had more varied locations.
2) The From Ashes DLC was pretty meh and short. I am not planning to use Javik at all so I cannot value/ appreciate it very much. Last living Prothean? And he doesn't know shit about Crucible? And he cannot help you at all? Sounds shoehorned as fuck.
3) Tried out the Leviathan DLC as well and got destroyed... first time I've encountered Banshees (2 at the same time!) and well I don't have at the moment anything to counter them (I am not levelling up my chars yet, mind you, they are sitting on 50+ skill points to be assigned). I will try it again before the end of the game. *shrugs* Still, it is much more interesting and much more better than From Ashes DLC from what I saw. Felt very Dead Space-y.
ME3 DLC Rating:
1. Omega
2. Leviathan
3. From Ashes
Did not play The Citadel yet.
1) Just beat the Omega DLC in ME3. So, so good and long. Loved how bad-ass Aria is. My 100% Paragon Shepard blew Petrovsky's brains the fuck out in the end because, hey, nobody fucks with Omega!. And having the final battle in the Afterlife club. Genious.
Incredible visuals in the DLC as well - Omega's skyline when climbing that one ladder with Aria, the mines (crazy geometry). Having Aria and the other girl setting up camps was very nice and allowed for the such needed pacing space between Atlas fights.
Very, very good DLC right on par with the Lair of the Shadow Broker for me even if Lair had more varied locations.
2) The From Ashes DLC was pretty meh and short. I am not planning to use Javik at all so I cannot value/ appreciate it very much. Last living Prothean? And he doesn't know shit about Crucible? And he cannot help you at all? Sounds shoehorned as fuck.
3) Tried out the Leviathan DLC as well and got destroyed... first time I've encountered Banshees (2 at the same time!) and well I don't have at the moment anything to counter them (I am not levelling up my chars yet, mind you, they are sitting on 50+ skill points to be assigned). I will try it again before the end of the game. *shrugs* Still, it is much more interesting and much more better than From Ashes DLC from what I saw. Felt very Dead Space-y.
ME3 DLC Rating:
1. Omega
2. Leviathan
3. From Ashes
Did not play The Citadel yet.
If nothing else, at least bring him to Thessia, or miss out on major content. Of course in general he's one of the best characters in ME3 so you should bring him everywhere, but even if you don't do that, at least bring him to Thessia.
StoppedInTracks
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By best characters do you mean best as "broken" like Kasumi and her insta-death attack? Or best as best character development and dialogues?
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I left From Ashes out because I frankly find it hard to believe it was important to the original cut of the game if they left it out for so many people's first playthroughs. And it seemed rather far fetched that you would get a prothean squad member. Felt a bit like some face value marketing that they knew some people would eat up from the portions and marketing I saw. Seems like a living prothean would be quite a dramatic twist in the series no? Yet somehow, the game seems to have actually been written first without him and he was slipped in for DLC. To me that seems like two dramatically different versions of the canon, but one was unimportant enough and perhaps such an afterthought that it wasn't put in the core game.
I prefer the ME1 and 2 suggestion that there is a lost mystery in what happened to them really. Some went dormant, some were taken by reapers, and all you get is what was left behind of their minds when they had them. Some bold ruins, technology, questions, and empathy for their ending.
I prefer the ME1 and 2 suggestion that there is a lost mystery in what happened to them really. Some went dormant, some were taken by reapers, and all you get is what was left behind of their minds when they had them. Some bold ruins, technology, questions, and empathy for their ending.
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