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Pristine_Condition
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You must be getting trolled. Because what you say is absolutely true.
It doesn't take long to find plenty of quotes on the subject. Anybody claiming there weren't "plenty" of people saying the 4s was going to be bad for Apple's smartphone business either weren't paying attention then, or are lying now.
Last I checked, it takes "plenty" of people to drop a company's stock by 5% while raising the price of it's major competitors like HTC and Samsung.
And then there's this:
Erik Sherman, CBS News
You expect smart things from Apple (AAPL). Products that step ahead in key ways. Apple has pulled it off time and again in the smartphone market. But the company just blew it. Lots of anticipation for the iPhone 5 that Apple didn't announce. Just the new 4S with some impressive features, but still ... talk about major disappointment. This is one of the biggest business flubs Apple has seen since the 1980s.
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Maybe no one should have been surprised. Apple did go from the 3G to the 3GS and then to the 4. But, come on, there was still only a year between models. The iPhone 4 came out in June 2010. The 4S has the feeling of a polished up placeholder.
So the price of the 8GB 4 is now $99 with a contract. So you can get an 8GB 3GS for free when you get service. So what? Android has already pulled out ahead in market share. The 4S simply isn't going to do what Apple needs -- or what the market wants.
CK Lu, Gartner, on the iPhone 4S
"Apple no longer has a leading edge – its cloud service is even behind (Google's mobile operating system) Android; it can only sell on brand loyalty now. Users may wait to buy the next iPhone; if they can't wait, they may shift to brands with more advanced specifications."
Thomas Husson, European consumer mobile analyst, Forrester Research
"Apple's smartphone product strategists face an ongoing paradox: maintaining premium leadership with an annual product renewal while tapping the rapidly mainstreaming global smartphone market. Apple's product strategists have opted to satisfy the premium position with an iPhone 4S that, like the 3GS at its introduction, relies on improved processing power and a new interaction paradigm, but eschews technology upgrades that their Android competitors rely upon today such as LTE and a larger screen.
"Apple's new Siri Assistant, unique to the new 4S, is a powerful harbinger of the future use of mobile devices – not just the power of voice but, more importantly, the ability to contextualise a statement or request. However, Forrester believes that consumers will be much more slow to adopt this new interface than they did Apple's revolutionary touchscreen of its first iPhone."
Richard Windsor, Nomura Securities
"Apple diehards and hypesters waiting for a big revision of the hardware were disappointed on Tuesday when Apple launched an upgrade to the iPhone 4 rather than a brand new model. None of this is likely to keep the Android community up at night and we suspect that even Nokia may be sighing a breath of relief … After weeks of fevered speculation about a low-end model and multiple SKUs [stock-keeping units] of a new iPhone, very little has come to pass explaining the 3% decline in the share price, making the total intraday swing of 5%.
"While this has disappointed the Apple fans, it is good news for the Android camp. We think It makes complete sense for Apple to address the low end. The longer it delays, the better it is for the Android operators.
"We think that a low-end iPhone would be highly detrimental to the proposition of Android, but this time around it has been spared. Hence we remain comfortable with our choice of the Asian Android vendors as the best way to invest in the smartphone market: we have 'Buy' ratings on HTC, Samsung, ZTE and TCL."
Francisco Jeronimo, IDC European Mobile Devices research manager
"Despite the upgrades and the new iPhone 4S released, this announcement is all about price positioning. The new prices announced to the new iPhone4S and previous iPhone versions allow Apple to compete in the price segments where Android is fiercely growing, the mid-range. Apple will attract first-time smartphone users and users from mid-price Symbian devices looking for an upgrade, but will it attract current iPhone users to replace their current iPhone's? Definitely not!
"In the previous announcements, Apple implemented significant software and hardware changes able to seduce users to get the latest version, but this is not the case with the iPhone 4S. This device represents an opportunity for Samsung and HTC Android premium handsets. The Samsung Galaxy S II has been a major hit around the world and a serious competitor to the iPhone.
"HTC has also been increasing market share in the high-end segment. Without a significant hardware differentiation there's no strong incentive for a massive replacement, as users can just upgrade their iPhone 4s with the new iOS 5. Samsung and HTC have been pumping the market with new handsets every quarter, if not every month. Their devices deliver strong user experiences based on Android OS at lower prices."
Kim Young-chan, financial analyst at Shinhan Investment Corp, Seoul
"Major concerns for Samsung had been that its smartphone momentum would decelerate with Apple's new iPhone, but that is now less of a concern as the new iPhone failed to excite many."
Adam Clark Estes, Atlantic Wire
Let's get this out of the way: Lots of people are very disappointed with Apple. As much as tech bloggers are singing the praises of the new features and analysts insist that the new pricing structure makes the iPhone more competitive with the Android, the usual afterglow that sparkles the eyes of Apple fanboys is noticeably absent the day after the latest big product reveal. It's very possible that consumer sentiment could brighten up once people actually start using the device and its shiny new software, but from a business perspective, Apple woke up to a series of headaches on Tuesday morning. Like dealing a bad hangover, Tim Cook and company will have to grin and bear it.
Apple's new personal assistant Siri is the butt of many jokes in Japan. Everyone remembers the collective gasp over the obvious women's product pun when Apple dubbed their new tablet the iPad last year. A similar thing happened in Japan when Apple announced that the new voice-controlled personal assistant software would keep the name Siri. The similar-sounding word shiri literally means "ass" in Japanese.
Wall Street is betting heavy on Apple's smartphone competitors. The market did not react kindly to Apple's anti-climactic announcement on Wednesday as the price of Apple shares sunk by $25 in afternoon trading. They recovered those losses by the end of the day, but Apple still closed down. Competitors Samsung, HTC and LG, however, enjoyed a bit of a bull run, as analysts pointed out how the disappointing news spells opportunity for Android devices. "Apple no longer has a leading edge, its cloud service is even behind Android," one in Taipei told Reuters. "It can only sell on brand loyalty now."
John R. Quain, Fox News
Is Apple losing its "app-eal"?
With such stellar products as the iPhone and iPad, every Apple announcement is a potentially game-changing event. And yesterday's debut of the new iPhone 4S could also change the marketplace -- just not in the way you might think.
By failing to make any major changes to the phone that changed the mobile world -- indeed, merely catching up in some areas -- Apple has left open the window for Windows and the iPhone's other competitors, from Samsung to Google to HTC.
Dan Lyons, The Daily Beast
Before today’s big event at Apple was even over, the company’s stock had plunged 10 bucks—which tells you all you need to know about how people are responding to what Apple introduced.
In short: there is no new iPhone.
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The problem for Apple is that one week from today Google and Samsung are going to introduce the new flagship Android phone, which will have a totally new design and probably include some features that put it ahead of the iPhone 4S.
That may have as much to do with Apple’s stock-price drop as anything else.
Four years ago, when Apple introduced the first iPhone, it had the market to itself. Now the company is facing fierce competition. The fear seems to be that Apple has become complacent at a time when it can ill afford to slow down. Apple seems to be betting that its loyal customers won’t stray to the Android camp. Whether that’s really the case remains to be seen.
Alex Gauna, JMP Securities
We couldn’t help but come away with the impression that the advances, launch forum and presentations lacked much of the panache seen in the past. This could heighten investor anxieties around how the company will operate without visionary leader Steve Jobs at the helm as well as leave the door open for Android to continue gaining worldwide market share at a faster pace.
And if you really want some fun, check out how the Fandroid community was acting:
http://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-4s-bulldozes-smoother-wider-path-for-android-success-26223/
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Deleted member 8095
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Hands up, anyone else missing their shipment tomorrow while at work?
Can't wait to visit UPS on Tuesday (my next day off) to actually pick it up.
I had mine shipped to my work. 1 step ahead!
JetBlackPanda
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Will it charge from any USB??
Hands up, anyone else missing their shipment tomorrow while at work?
Can't wait to visit UPS on Tuesday (my next day off) to actually pick it up.
From the apple site you can print out a piece of paper to pre-sign for it and instruct them where to leave the package - front door, back door, neighbor, office, etc.
Probably has to do with the higher capacity battery. Would probably take forever to charge through USB.
I just hope that the new iPad charges on my Phillips alarm clock dual dock charger.
It eats almost twice as much juice as the iPad 2 in the same amount of time. If your USB port was already a low power port, I doubt it could even keep it at a steady battery percentage, let alone charge it.
Go to system profiler and drill down to USB to check how many amps it's supplying.
The_Inquisitor
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FUCK YES! It's in Dallas.
Auron_Kale
Member
Hands up, anyone else missing their shipment tomorrow while at work?
Having it shipped to work.
Mail Center signs for me, they drop off at my desk, I'm a happy camper.
Hands up, anyone else missing their shipment tomorrow while at work?
Can't wait to visit UPS on Tuesday (my next day off) to actually pick it up.
Nope. I had mine shipped to work.
Come on tomorrow...
Gary Whitta
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Dude it would have been cheaper to just get one 32gb model!
I was going to say something like this....
But then... When you are charging the screen is likely off
So in a single day it goes from China to Hong Kong, to Alaska, to Kentucky, then sits there for 6 fucking days. WTF?
Louisville, Kentucky is UPS's main hub. It will get on whatever plane it needs to tonight and be in your hands tomorrow.
I'm frantically updating apps in iTunes in preparation for the festivities. Sorta shocked that nearly every major app is already getting simple updates for retina. I'm sure the actual video content hosted on the ABC app is still web quality streams but it's nice that everyone seemed prepared. I've probably updated 30 apps in the past 4 days with "iPad Retina Support" listed in the fixes. That was actually faster than the iPhone 4 launch updates.
Macbook Pros (at least the last and current generation) can supply 2 amps from USB.
Then my custom retina goggles will do nothing!
The_Inquisitor
Member
All check your statuses soon. I don't even get a departure scan earlier today. It just showed up as arriving in my city 20 minutes ago.
Gary Whitta
Member
Glad you're liking the white, that's what I went with too. Played around with a white iPad 2 today and really like it. Will look lovely with its red leather smart cover
JetBlackPanda
Member
I am pretty sure Walmart has the wifi version.
I'm at walmart. The amount of non-disabled people riding the carts is priceless.
Kibbles
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Sam's Club has had them out for sale all day, I work there. I didn't know people still didn't get it (haven't been following it), but I saw it in store as I was walking by the electronics section and was like, oh cool.
Edit: Unless it was pre-order, do they do that? They had the boxes and prices out, I didn't stand around and look at everything, I had work to do lol
Edit: Unless it was pre-order, do they do that? They had the boxes and prices out, I didn't stand around and look at everything, I had work to do lol
There would be significantly less Super Ghetto Kart 64 then.
guess i might just do the apple.com wait two weeks thing then
Dreams-Visions
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Pristine_Condition: The GAF anti-troll weapon.
I do...and I'm at walmart lol
Gary Whitta
Member
LOL at those 4S doomsayers. Idiots.
Do any of you risk having it left at your door/mailbox?
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Ugh, never mind. UPS Canada doesn't offer a pre-sign option, Apple or otherwise. They absolutely require a signature. I wonder if I can call them midday tomorrow and indicate an alternate address for their re-attempt on Saturday.
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Ugh, never mind. UPS Canada doesn't offer a pre-sign option, Apple or otherwise. They absolutely require a signature. I wonder if I can call them midday tomorrow and indicate an alternate address for their re-attempt on Saturday.
Ready Up Already
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Yes, hurry up and switch to an LTE model. Ridiculous speeds and the ease of signing up for service within iPad's Settings itself. Pay the premium for the option of subscribing to LTE. My 32-gig Verizon model is on its way. So close...
Got the Shakes
Member
I would think that would be perfectly fine for what you are trying to use it for. I thought about 4G, but went wifi only since I really can't see myself ever needing a cell data connection on it.
It has to be received in person doesn't it?
It does here in Australia. Also had to sign both a digital receipt and a physical one, never had to do that before.
Edit. You edited, making my answer pointless
NYR
Member
Roller coaster???
Apple has done a fantastic job updating to advise when people will get delivery - maps, emails, site updates, etc. If you're order says between march 16 and march 20, you're very likely getting it tomorrow, if you're in zone 1 on the map (almost every major city and near in Canada except quebec city).
You are being pessimistic. Lighten up.