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Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
bionic77 said:
So we can beat the defending champs, but we can't handle Indy or San Diego?

I didn't say that. The Steelers are the best team in the NFL, period. But the best teams don't always win. I just don't think Big Ben is going to deliver enough in the play-offs. It's not like the Steelers will be playing any scrub teams...if they have to play SD/NE/Indy, I don't think it's a lock either way, but a rookie QB tells me to pick against Pittsburgh. So I'm gonna go with either the team I'm rooting for(Colts), or the most underrated team in the play-offs imo(SD).

But yeah, Pittsburgh has proven they can "handle" any team in the NFL, no question.
 

TheDuce22

Banned
ESPN decided what??? The only person who even picked the rams over the squawks was golic. everyone else picked seattle.

The guys on Monday Morning Quarterback agreed that the Rams were now the favorites to win the nfc.
 

Ristamar

Member
I can understand why people may expect the Steelers to get knocked off before the big game. No rookie has ever led his team a superbowl. It only takes one bad game. Thankfully, it's unlikely Roethlisberger will have to carry the bulk of the offensive load, and for once, Pitt's secondary isn't complete shit.
 
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thanks to you 49ers, and to you Dr. York! you have truly made this season a season... to remember!
 

bionic77

Member
Ristamar said:
I can understand why people may expect the Steelers to get knocked off before the big game. No rookie has ever led his team a superbowl. It only takes one bad game. Thankfully, it's unlikely Roethlisberger will have to carry the bulk of the offensive load, and for once, Pitt's secondary isn't complete shit.

Yeah I can respect what Eminem said now that he gave me a legit complaint. I was just getting annoyed at how quick some people are to bash the Steelers and I can never understand why. I mean all they do is win, every fucking time they need to make a play with the game on the line they come through. That is why I as a Steelers fan think things will be different this year. We had a lot of great teams over the years that disapointed and they all pretty much had the same flaw, we couldn't come back once we were behind. That is no longer the case anymore. Big Ben has changed that. The bigger the game the better he plays. Of course until they actually do it anyone can say another team will win. In football everyone is just one ACL away from disaster.

I guess maybe the Steelers don't get the same respect as some other teams because they don't have superstar. One for the thumb should end all disputes though. :D
 
TheDuce22 said:
The guys on Monday Morning Quarterback agreed that the Rams were now the favorites to win the nfc.


the favorites? you must be joking. the favorite should be, and is, philly. Were they the favorites the past 2 years? Yes. Did they still lose? Yes.

the rams right now i think can be dangerous, if we stop giving the fuckin ball away on offense. Did you know we've won 3 games this year when we were -3 in turnover margin? We can pass the ball against anybody in this league, including philly. If we get into a groove, i think we could contend for the NFC. But favorites? Right now? no way.
 

EAJAPAN

Member
If Martz decided to run the ball a bit I'd back the Rams to beat anyone in the NFC.

It won't happen though, because it's common sense and common sense + Martz isn't an equation I've ever heard of before.

Also the Bills need to do something about the QB position during the offseason. It's obviously their weakness. Put any halfway decent QB in a Bills jersey this season and we're 12-4 at worst.

My initial leanings for the weekend -

Rams - I like St Louis to win a game, maybe two, this post-season. Seattle have the ability, but let's face it, they're New Orleans, only in a different jersey.

Chargers - It's easy to expect a Schottenheimer-led choke, but the expectations on SD aren't so great just yet. Forget that Jets win over SD earlier in the season, both teams are quite different now.

Packers - Vikings outside of a dome. Should be a high quality shootout though. Pack are my tip to represent the NFC this season.

Colts - Broncos should keep it closer than last year, but I think the Colts D can make enough plays to ensure the O has enough time of posession to rack up a few more points than Denver. I'm hoping Denver will remember to touch Harrison if he's on the ground this time.
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
Ristamar said:
I can understand why people may expect the Steelers to get knocked off before the big game. No rookie has ever led his team a superbowl. It only takes one bad game. Thankfully, it's unlikely Roethlisberger will have to carry the bulk of the offensive load, and for once, Pitt's secondary isn't complete shit.

I'm entirely sick of that "A rookie has never done it" reasoning.

Tom Brady was a year off of being the FOURTH STRING quarterback. That's worse than being a rookie. He wasn't even good enough to be the scout team quarterback, or even hold the clipboard. Two guys had to go down with wrist cramps to give him a shot to hold the clipboard.

Then just look at the other recent super bowl QBs. Delhomme? Fresh from NFLE. Gannon, Johnson, Dilfer? Old journeymen passed around by multiple teams because they were no good. Warner? ...Yeah. I think I'll take my chances with a good rookie.

Good rookie QBs very rarely end up on a good enough team to get to the super bowl. That's just about the only reason it hasn't happened.

Anyway, I don't see the Colts winning in the second round. They are, collectively, Bill Belichick's bitch.

I can't find any dice laying around, so I can't tell you who I think will win the NFC with confidence. However, I think I'd go with...shit, I just have no idea. The Eagles aren't good enough without TO to be a wildcard team in the AFC. But the Falcons with Vick might not be good enough to be a wildcard team in the AFC.

Regardless of who ends up from either side, it's going to be one of those spectacular blowout super bowls that we all remember for about ten minutes.
 

tmdorsey

Member
Archaix said:
But the Falcons with Vick might not be good enough to be a wildcard team in the AFC.

We've beaten 2 of the 6 teams in the AFC playoffs. I think it's alittle harsh to say wouldn't be at least wildcard team in that conference.
 

Ristamar

Member
Archaix said:
I'm entirely sick of that "A rookie has never done it" reasoning.

There's a first time for just about everything. It's not like I'm not pulling for him and the Steelers. Still, I'm not holding my breath...
 

firex

Member
I have a gut feeling the NFC championship will be GB/Philly and GB will win. I'd really prefer seeing Atlanta go and it goes against my pick of them going to the super bowl earlier in the year.

Anyway, after GB goes to the super bowl they get owned hard by whoever they play and Favre retires in total disgrace so it all works out for the best in the end.
 

bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
Uh, you're not giving nearly enough credit to the power of slinging and slanging. Throw Reggie White's death into the mix...GB could run the table and not surprise me in the least.

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AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
This year reminds me of the year the Pats first won it. It's just so obvious that the AFC will win that I wouldn't bet a dollar on it, and if I had to pick I'd actually say the NFC will win though I couldn't give you a single good reason other than that's how sports works sometimes (especially if you gamble).
 

TheDuce22

Banned
I forgot about White. Looks like the Packers can become the team of destiny again. I wonder how long before they start pushing that angle.
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
See this man, Paul Hackett?
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You ride this goddamned horse till his legs fall off. You will not pass 3 times in the row on a 1st and Goal with the game on the line after running at will all fucking game. You will limit your abnormal addiction to the draw play to non-3rd and forever situations. This man can beat the Chargers for you. USE HIM.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
yay, we fired our shitty offensive coordinator terry shea. maybe next year we can move our average from 6 points a game to 9, or maybe even double digits.
 

Tamanon

Banned
Jags fired their Offensive coordinator Musgrave also. Man, did everyone see that coming, the play calling at times was atrocious! Maybe now we'll actually see us try to establish the run in a game, as opposed to just mouthing the words.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
Terry owns us all, him and his four ex-wives.

I really like the Chargers and think they will make some noise. Run Curtis Martin all you want, they have the #3 ranked run D in the league. They have grown comfortable in their base 3-4 set. Their collapse against the Colts worries me, but I think they will make it to the AFC Championship game........ :D
 

bionic77

Member
Wellington said:
Terry owns us all, him and his four ex-wives.

I really like the Chargers and think they will make some noise. Run Curtis Martin all you want, they have the #3 ranked run D in the league. They have grown comfortable in their base 3-4 set. Their collapse against the Colts worries me, but I think they will make it to the AFC Championship game........ :D

Chargers are a really good team, but it is going to be Pats/Steelers in the AFC Championship and Roethlisberger is going to once again deliver us from the Pats Dynasty. It will be broken for good after that game and Brady will soon be forgotten.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
bionic77 said:
Chargers are a really good team, but it is going to be Pats/Steelers in the AFC Championship and Roethlisberger is going to once again deliver us from the Pats Dynasty. It will be broken for good after that game and Brady will soon be forgotten.

Wait, Chargers play the Steelers if they win? I think the Chargers could take the Pats and their depleted secondary.
 

Brendonia

"Edge stole Big Ben's helmet"
The only way the Chargers play the Pats if they win is if the Broncos beat the Colts. The Steelers play the lowest remaining seed after the Wild-Card round.

Any games after the Wild-Card round will be great, but I really like the Steelers chances. I was at the game in Buffalo this weekend and the Bills fans were in virtual disbelief when I told them how many starters were out of the game. They said they hadn't seen a defense that good all year, and it was backups in there. The games left over after this week will be great and I don't think there will be any blowouts, at least in the AFC, so I'm pumped for the playoffs. Obviously I'm a big Steelers fan so whoever we get in the next few rounds, besides the Colts and Jets, deserves some payback. The Chargers for '94, the Broncos for '97, and the Pats for '01... writing that is sort of depressing but they will be beaten, oh yes, they will. I just wish the Cowboys were in it and made the Super Bowl so we could punk them for that bullshit '95 Super Bowl.
 

keiichi

Member
Erickson fired as 49ers coach

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3298344
The inevitable in San Francisco is about to occur.

FOXSports.com has confirmed that the 49ers have fired head coach Dennis Erickson, a move that will be announced at a press conference later this afternoon. In fact, members of Erickson's staff, perhaps looking for work now, have already informed friends around the league that their coach has been let go.

Is anyone else not suprised?
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
Wellington said:
Terry owns us all, him and his four ex-wives.

I really like the Chargers and think they will make some noise. Run Curtis Martin all you want, they have the #3 ranked run D in the league. They have grown comfortable in their base 3-4 set. Their collapse against the Colts worries me, but I think they will make it to the AFC Championship game........ :D

Interesting. We were #3 in Rushing Offense in the league. Something's got to give. And my suspicion is that not many teams ran at them consistently because their passing game would lead to big deficits. The Jets do have less success rushing against the 3-4, but isn't that the point?
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
even praise from the mighty slinging slanger:

"Amazing," said Packers quarterback Brett Favre, who won the award in 1995. Favre held an NFL mark with 12 straight games throwing at least two TDs, which Manning also broke, finishing at 13. "I think they've built that offense to where they're at a point right now where they dare you to try to stop someone, and that's a hell of a place to be."

awwwwww <3
 

DJPS2

Banned
STL/SEA: I'm going with the Rams here, mainly because of their postseason experience and that offense-- which, when it's on, can pile up points quickly.

NYJ/SD: Sorry, Jets fans. No dice. San Diego is the real deal, and your defense is struggling at a bad time. Add to that a pathetic offensive coordinator that Herman Edwards wants no part of and an inconsistent Chad Pennington, and you've got a long trip home to think about how a 5-0 start could have gone so wrong. That cheering sound that you'll hear in New York next Monday will be due to the firing of Paul Hackett, with WFAN's Joe Beningo and FSR's Bruce Jacobs leading the cheers.

DEN/IND: Heh. The over/under on TD passes for Peyton Manning in this game is 6. Have fun, Champ Bailey. Even if Dwight Freeney doesn't get three sacks, I have a feeling that he'll pressure Jake Plummer into making some poor decisions... and even if the Denver offense can score, the Colts can score more. I hope that Mike Shanahan brings a case of Pepto-Bismol, because he's gonna need it.

MIN/GB: In years past, this would be a no-brainer. Green Bay used to be so strong at home... but not this year. They've been vulnerable, and Ahman Green's nagging injuries make me a little nervous. Thankfully for Green Bay fans, though, Randy Moss is having a pity party for himself and has become a cancer for the Vikings, pitting player against player and proving that Mike Tice doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

So, recapping your winners for Wild-Card Weekend... Rams in a close one over the Seahawks, Bolts down the Jets and cost Hackett his job, Indianapolis beats the Broncos by 100 points, and Green Bay spikes Minnesota.

Other predictions?

** New England will lose at home, and that's coming from a Patriots fan... if they get Indianapolis, Peyton Manning will shred what's left of the New England secondary, even if Ty Law comes back. New England will also miss Richard Seymour a whole lot, too.

** The Eagles will break hearts again this year. I'm sorry, Eagles fans... but Terrell Owens is... errr... WAS your offense. I don't see any of your other WRs stepping up to make the big play, and that makes you pretty one-dimensional. Nobody is afraid of the Eagles now, regardless of where they're playing.

** Atlanta? Well... let's hope that the good Falcons team shows up. I think that they will, but that won't matter if they make the Super Bowl. Being the "class" of the NFC isn't exactly a boast, and Michael Vick's accuracy numbers are pathetic.

** Super Bowl? I could take the easy way out and just say that the AFC wins by default... but I'll play along and call a Falcons / Steelers matchup. With the NFC being so bad, you could really plug in a few different teams that all have legitimate shots at a Super Bowl berth (Falcons, Packers, and maybe the Eagles), but my gut tells me that the Falcons have the best shot. As for the AFC, with New England losing in the divisional round, I'm thinking that the Steeler defense (and home-field advantage) will win out over the Colts' offensive juggernaut.
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
DJPS2 said:
NYJ/SD: Sorry, Jets fans. No dice. San Diego is the real deal, and your defense is struggling at a bad time. Add to that a pathetic offensive coordinator that Herman Edwards wants no part of and an inconsistent Chad Pennington, and you've got a long trip home to think about how a 5-0 start could have gone so wrong. That cheering sound that you'll hear in New York next Monday will be due to the firing of Paul Hackett, with WFAN's Joe Beningo and FSR's Bruce Jacobs leading the cheers.

Since when did the Bolts have so many people on their bandwagon? I still don't see the evidence that they are the real deal, or at least any more of a real deal then my Jets are. I'm not a stat whore, but how did they fare against play-off teams this year? Any wins? Or were they oh-so-close and played well against them, as did the Jets? Edit: They beat Denver, once. We beat Seattle, once. *Shrug* Our division was tougher, our schedule by that fact alone was tougher, and our D has struggled recently because the loss of Abraham finally caught up to us--if you notice, nobody's running on us, just QB's are setting up snack tables in the pocket w/ all the time they have the last 2-3 games.

The Bolts have a great offense, but w/ rumors of rain on Saturday, hopefully this will become a grind-'em-out smash-mouth game, which will help us moreso than SD if Abraham doesn't play at all (articles in today's NY papers are saying this) or is only used sparingly. Anyway, it's not like SD's pass defense is anything to be proud of.

I'm getting amped up just writing this. Saturday night seems like 300 years away.
 

tmdorsey

Member
Wild Card Weekend

Saturday, January 8
4:30 p.m. on ABC -- St. Louis (8-8) at Seattle (9-7)
8 p.m. on ABC -- N.Y. Jets (10-6) at San Diego (12-4)

Sunday, January 9
1 p.m. on CBS -- Denver (10-6) at Indianapolis (12-4)
4:30 p.m. on FOX -- Minnesota (8-8) at Green Bay (10-6)


That's what I think will happen. I wouldn't mind at all if the Vikings beat the Packers though. ;)
 

TheDuce22

Banned
Its looking like Owens will be there for the superbowl.

Owens says that the Eagles' trainers are excited about his progress, that X-rays last week showed bone healing just eight days after surgery, and that he feels no pain when putting his foot on the floor.

Hope about returning during Super Bowl week has been replaced by confidence.

"It's looking better and better," Owens said, beaming.

For those who think this is the same philly team that lost last year without Owens, let me remind you again that we did not have westbrook (maybe a bigger part of our offense than TO) and most of our starting defense was on the IR. I just cant imagine this team losing in the pathetic NFC.
 

TheDuce22

Banned
This is just sad.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002142341_hawknotes06.html

Those in Seattle who thought seeing the Seahawks' home playoff game on television was a foregone conclusion had better think again.

As of this morning, the game is close to being blacked out locally.

In an effort to keep that from happening, the NFL granted the Seahawks a deadline extension yesterday to sell more tickets. There were 3,500 available as of last night for Saturday's NFC wild-card game against St. Louis at Qwest Field, which kicks off at 1:30 p.m.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
Vikings' wide receiver Randy Moss said Thursday during a radio interview that while he feels bad about leaving the sidelines two seconds before time expired in Sunday's game against the Redskins, he couldn't rule out performing a similar stunt in the future. "I'm my own man," Moss reasoned during head coach Mike Tice's weekly radio show on KFAN.

Fuckin' punk.

He may be the best WR in the league, but there's a NUMBER of WR's I'd rather have on my team.
Harrison, Chad Johnson, Holt, and hell, even TO to name a few. I hope that if Tice gets fired, the next coach will have the balls to stand up to Moss.
 

bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
Stand up to him how?

He got his signing bonus money, which takes away any leverage the team had. He's set for life, what the fuck does he care what you, his teammates, the fans, or anyone thinks? He was a chickenhead before being drafted and he's a rich chickenhead now. Enjoy him to the fullest, Minnesota! :lol
 

DMczaf

Member
bishoptl said:
Stand up to him how?

He got his signing bonus money, which takes away any leverage the team had. He's set for life, what the fuck does he care what you, his teammates, the fans, or anyone thinks? He was a chickenhead before being drafted and he's a rich chickenhead now. Enjoy him to the fullest, Minnesota! :lol

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Mrbob

Member
:lol :lol

Normally I'd say the Packers would lose on Sunday, but with all this Moss drama still going on TWO DAYS before the game Minnesota is crumbling from within. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Packers won't just beat Minnesota on Sunday, they will crush the Vikings. Minnesota playing outside and in the cold (Where they are 2-23 in their last 25 games road games outside in cold weather. They are the most southern northern team in the NFL) plus all their internal strife means the Vikings are going to collapse in fantastic fashion Sunday. Did you see a segment of upcoming Sunday Countdown Moss interview on ESPN?

He said something to the tune that he is or isn't sure that Mike Tice should be the Vikings head coach but he has his back! :lol

I'm also taking the Colts, Bolts, and Rams.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
bishoptl said:
Stand up to him how?

He got his signing bonus money, which takes away any leverage the team had. He's set for life, what the fuck does he care what you, his teammates, the fans, or anyone thinks? He was a chickenhead before being drafted and he's a rich chickenhead now. Enjoy him to the fullest, Minnesota! :lol

They get a new coach in there that tells Moss to shut the fuck up, and benches him for behavior such as he's displayed this season, and yeah, either Moss will cut most of the bullshit or demand a trade. In either case the Vikes benefit.
Even a player like Moss still wants to play. If he's sitting on the bench, he'll get motivated to do something.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
The New England Patriots placed Ty Law on injured reserve Friday and said the four-time Pro Bowl cornerback will miss the entire postseason.

everything is coming up peyton!
 
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