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Well my Madden strategy to stopping those losers who select Atlanta to run with Vick is to blits the hell out of them and get to him before he he can get in scramble mode.
On other news, looks like the Cowboys will keep their three QBs for next season. I hope Henson does well. They have picks 11 and 20 in the draft, if M.Wiley leaves then we'll need a CB, a DE, and a safety.
On other news, looks like the Cowboys will keep their three QBs for next season. I hope Henson does well. They have picks 11 and 20 in the draft, if M.Wiley leaves then we'll need a CB, a DE, and a safety.
Fixed2BeBroken
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
dont sleep on Brooking...he isnt a pro bowler for nothing.
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Future Trunks
lemme tell you something son, this guy is SO FARKING HUGE HE'LL FLEX AND DESTROY THE SUN no shit
Fixed2BeBroken said:
Actually, it IS simple. The problem isn't in finding the simple way to stop the Falcons/Vick, it's that only a VERY small group of NFL teams have the defensive personnel to stop the Falcons/Vick the "simple ways." That's been stated ad infinitum by analysts whenever the Falcons get jolly-stomped on by a team -- not many defenses match Vick well, but whenever that defense comes along....hoo-boy, the outcome is rarely pretty for the Falcons.
Well, I might have exaggerated a little, but you get my point.
FrenchMovieTheme
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i like brooking, i was commenting on the whole.
lol! oh that is rich my friend. what did your backup D do against the rams? hold bulger to 20/27 for 225 yards a touchdown and no picks? or was it holding the rams to only 200 rushing yards? yeah your backups played a hell of a fucking game. bulger put up 225 on you and they pretty much played a vanilla offense for most of the 2nd half with the game wrapped up and your backup O playing.
the falcons DB's are a lot better than the vikings DB's. come to think of it, the falcons run defense is highly superior as well.
if you want to throw out bullshit stats such as the eagles are 55-0 when mcnabb jacks off into andy reids coffee before the game that's fine with me, but it doesn't mean a god damn thing on sunday. how about if westbrook touches the ball 19 times, and on his 20th touch he fumbles the game away to the falcons?
the falcons aren't a blitzing team in the eagles sense, but they do blitz enough to worry about it. i'm sorry, did you say something about QB completion percentage? i was too distracted by the fact that they are top 10 in interceptions this year. lets take a look at some defensive numbers while we're here:
sacks: eagles 47, falcons 48
interceptions: eagles 17, falcons 19
TD's/Int's: eagles - 16/17, falcons - 19/19
seems to me like these 2 defenses are neck and neck in those regards.
what do you mean by contain? according to your thoughts earlier this year, you contained bettis by giving him 125+ yards and some TD's. GET READY TO BE CONTAINED DUNN! ONLY 130 FOR YOU! SUCK IT DOWN FALCONS!
lol! oh that is rich my friend. what did your backup D do against the rams? hold bulger to 20/27 for 225 yards a touchdown and no picks? or was it holding the rams to only 200 rushing yards? yeah your backups played a hell of a fucking game. bulger put up 225 on you and they pretty much played a vanilla offense for most of the 2nd half with the game wrapped up and your backup O playing.
the falcons DB's are a lot better than the vikings DB's. come to think of it, the falcons run defense is highly superior as well.
if you want to throw out bullshit stats such as the eagles are 55-0 when mcnabb jacks off into andy reids coffee before the game that's fine with me, but it doesn't mean a god damn thing on sunday. how about if westbrook touches the ball 19 times, and on his 20th touch he fumbles the game away to the falcons?
the falcons aren't a blitzing team in the eagles sense, but they do blitz enough to worry about it. i'm sorry, did you say something about QB completion percentage? i was too distracted by the fact that they are top 10 in interceptions this year. lets take a look at some defensive numbers while we're here:
sacks: eagles 47, falcons 48
interceptions: eagles 17, falcons 19
TD's/Int's: eagles - 16/17, falcons - 19/19
seems to me like these 2 defenses are neck and neck in those regards.
what do you mean by contain? according to your thoughts earlier this year, you contained bettis by giving him 125+ yards and some TD's. GET READY TO BE CONTAINED DUNN! ONLY 130 FOR YOU! SUCK IT DOWN FALCONS!
Fixed2BeBroken
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awe man, FMT doing some ownage.
If you had to put money on it, or are putting money it, who would you go with? Eagles are laying 4.5 I believe. On the one hand, I think the Eagles will probably win this, but OTOH I wouldn't want to have one red cent riding on the Eagles in an NFC Title game. Other game is much clearer from a gambling perspective imo, though now NE's laying 3 (line went up just like I predicted), but to me it's somewhat odd since I see the Falcons-Eagles game being much more up in the air and unpredictable esp. when you consider Eagles don't have TO and Pats do have Dillon. That said, I'm sticking by my predictions, but Atlanta is 6-1 right now to win it all, which isn't bad b/c for some reason I feel like if they can beat the Eagles they will win the SB, though I don't think they will beat the Eagles and I have no logical reason to believe they can beat that Pats or Steelers. The over/under is 36 in the NE/PIT game, and imo that's a crap line, I wouldn't bet on that. Most people say take the under here, but 36 is pretty low and I could easily see something like a 20-17 score with a D or special teams TD or two.
That is anything but a bullshit stat, it means far more than you making rediculous claims like the falcons will play bump and run while blitzing all game. They arent going to go away from what has gotten them there. They play zone, rely on pressure from the front 4 and dont give up big plays. That plays right into Mcnabbs hands and I promise you that is what they come out with on defense. When westbrook touches the ball 10 times, eagles are 20-0. Very few teams have an answer for him, the falcons definitly do not.
I wouldnt say they are alot better. They are 22nd in pass defense with pretty much the same personell that was ranked 32nd last year. Im done arguing about it, its going to be a long week but you and your fellow eagle haters who care nothing about facts will hear from me after the blowout.
It doesnt make sense for me to say anything now when you have two guys behind you yelling OHH SHIT!! OWNAGE, every time you make some crazy comment. Most of you picked the vikings, incase you forgot.FrenchMovieTheme
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mike vick knows a little something about those types of stats. ask him what happened when he went into greenbay when they had been previously undefeated.
man what are you TALKING about regarding the falcons defense? did you watch the rams game? they gave up that first big play because they blitzed bulger and left the safety in a zone to cover 2 guys, and he chose the short flat route to the TE and moved over too late to stop curtis. but they dont sit back in a vanilla D all game long. the eagles already saw jim mora's defense when we embarrassed you in philly in OT last year.
i guess it is feasible that mora jr. starts out the game not blitzing. but if the D is getting picked apart, he is very impatient, and he will blitz you. the one and ONLY threat you have on offense is westbrook. your receivers wont take advantage of single coverage. i give freddie mitchell some props as a possession receiver, but he isn't a big play guy.
similar personnel, not the same. they added d'angelo hall and jason webster, two very good secondary player. on top of that, they are running a different defensive scheme and it better suits their defensive ability. maybe i am biased cause jim mora jr is an ex niner, but their D is a hell of a lot better than the vikings.
yep, most of us picked the vikings. just like most of us picked the eagles to beat the panthers last year, and the eagles to beat the bucs the year before. funny how predictions dont always pan out isn't it
TheDuce is overlooking a very simple, crucial factor in all of this back and forth with FMT(who I would like to thank for laying some knowledge upside TheDuce's head):
The Eagles are playing in an NFC championship game. They are destined to lose.
I don't know why everyone is so surprised by this. It's like Manning vs. the Patriots. The natural way of things is for the Eagles to choke like little bitches in the NFC championship game. Who cares who they're playing? You could wheel the 49ers(sorry FMT) or Dolphins out there on Sunday and the Eagles would still figure out a way to lose. It's meant to be.
I can't wait for your BS excuses on Sunday night, Duce.
The Eagles are playing in an NFC championship game. They are destined to lose.
I don't know why everyone is so surprised by this. It's like Manning vs. the Patriots. The natural way of things is for the Eagles to choke like little bitches in the NFC championship game. Who cares who they're playing? You could wheel the 49ers(sorry FMT) or Dolphins out there on Sunday and the Eagles would still figure out a way to lose. It's meant to be.
I can't wait for your BS excuses on Sunday night, Duce.
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Fixed2BeBroken said:
Stopping the falcons *IS* simple, they don't do anything tricky. They line up run the ball right down your throat. With vick as the x-factor.
Rams defenders could not match up to them, plain and simple. I thought we did an OK job on vick overall, but we just couldn't stop dunn and duckett. This is where philly will do a better job.
Fixed2BeBroken
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soulja224466 said:
if it was so "simple" why are they going to the NFC championship game?
simple means easy.....should be easy to stop them?
so since its so simple and easy, i guess the rams are just tards then, cause they cant do simple and easy things. we agree, that their team is full of tards yes?
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soulja224466
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Fixed2BeBroken said:
Let me say it again, since you obviously didn't read my post:
soulja224466 said:
Fixed2BeBroken
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soulja224466 said:
neither could the offense, but this was suppossed to be "simple"
and yea, I read your post.
Point is...we are discussing the fact that "its quite simple to stop the falcons"
Something the rams couldnt do. THey couldnt do such a SIMPLE thing.
hence.....the rams all have down syndrome. Now, if It wasnt a Simple thing to do...then yea, then everyone on the rams probably dont have down syndrome.
but since its agreed that stopping the falcons is a simple thing to do, then yea, they all have down syndrome.
its settled.
soulja224466
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stop talking like an idiot.
it's very simple, so I'll lay it out for you:
Rams defenders wouldn't make a JV squad. They are all garbage. The falcons offense is bigger, tougher and wanted it more. They pushed the defense around like it was nothing. I don't expect them to do that to philly.
and btw, our offense was doing quite well vs your "vaunted defense" until we got down by 20 thanks to special teams and defensive gaffes. Your defense is overrated.
it's very simple, so I'll lay it out for you:
Rams defenders wouldn't make a JV squad. They are all garbage. The falcons offense is bigger, tougher and wanted it more. They pushed the defense around like it was nothing. I don't expect them to do that to philly.
and btw, our offense was doing quite well vs your "vaunted defense" until we got down by 20 thanks to special teams and defensive gaffes. Your defense is overrated.
Fixed2BeBroken
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soulja224466 said:
your posts are overrated.
i dont even feel like responding to your comments because you support a team full of tards who cant accomplish simple things such as stopping the falcons.
soulja224466
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lol im truely offended an atlanta vicks bandwagoner hates me :lol
Fixed2BeBroken
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soulja224466 said:
pfft
vicks bandwagoner? wtf? hes from my city...ive been supporting him since he was playing at warwick highschool...
and i dont hate you, hate is such a strong word. I just dont feel like wasting energy responding to someone who doesnt see the point of my posts.
peace
soulja224466
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im just calling it like i see it bro. The falcons fielded a (much) better squad than us this year. It will come around eventually.
Fixed2BeBroken
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soulja224466 said:
again, you dont understand my point.
but oh well.
soulja224466
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I do.
The ram offense is a complex offense, you have a lot of things to try to stop when defensing it.
The falcon offense is the polar opposite. They line up, and run the ball down your throat. There's not much to think about when trying to defense them.
If you've got the athletes to get in there and plug up the run, they're done for. The rams don't have that talent, I think philly prolly does.
That's all i'm sayin, nothing personal
The ram offense is a complex offense, you have a lot of things to try to stop when defensing it.
The falcon offense is the polar opposite. They line up, and run the ball down your throat. There's not much to think about when trying to defense them.
If you've got the athletes to get in there and plug up the run, they're done for. The rams don't have that talent, I think philly prolly does.
That's all i'm sayin, nothing personal
Fixed2BeBroken
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soulja224466 said:
of course nothing personal. :lol
im just saying, it isnt simple. thats my point. youve missed it all this time. I guess you can say its a "simple idea" yea...but its not simple to carry out. thats my point. Everything is Simple when it comes to the Idea of it all...."just stop peyton manning." But thats not simple...cause the task itself is hard.
The task of stopping vick and the falcons is Hard. Thats my point. So in essence..it ISNT simple.
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soulja224466
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That's my point too. The gameplan for stopping the falcons is simple, but even tho we knew what was coming, we couldn't stop them.
Philly *will* be able to stop them, i expect. Their gameplan won't be much different either i bet, they just have better coached, superior defensive players.
You gotta admit man, the falcons offense is pretty one dimensional. Teams like the rams, colts, pats, etc can beat you by running and passing. If your team can contain dunn and duckett, are you really gonna be worried about michael vick the passer? I'm not.
I know for sure the eagles won't let themselves get pushed around so easily. They're gonna force you guys to pass a lot more i expect, and i don't see vick beating philly with his arm.
Philly *will* be able to stop them, i expect. Their gameplan won't be much different either i bet, they just have better coached, superior defensive players.
You gotta admit man, the falcons offense is pretty one dimensional. Teams like the rams, colts, pats, etc can beat you by running and passing. If your team can contain dunn and duckett, are you really gonna be worried about michael vick the passer? I'm not.
I know for sure the eagles won't let themselves get pushed around so easily. They're gonna force you guys to pass a lot more i expect, and i don't see vick beating philly with his arm.
i think by calling the falcons offense simple no one means they are easy. it means they don run those complex pacakages like say a high powered offense like colts or the rams of old, and even now somewhat, would. they dont need to do fancy plays or anything....jus line up and run on u and see if u can stop em.
of course i think the eagles will win, but i dont think it will be easy. i mean not only is atl good, but the added pressure....4 straight yrs.....the media is not going to write about anything but that over and over....eagles will have to face that.
as for stoping the falcons offense, i believe our Dline now is faster and better. we need to make sure we have a mush rush...where we dont force vick to run.....now im not saying dont pressure him but dont force him to run as in make him stay in the pocket for as long as u can. our run D has been improved tremendously....we just now need to make sure it shows up.
im not too worried about our O against thier D..yeah it willl be better than the vikings...bu then again most Ds are.
of course i think the eagles will win, but i dont think it will be easy. i mean not only is atl good, but the added pressure....4 straight yrs.....the media is not going to write about anything but that over and over....eagles will have to face that.
as for stoping the falcons offense, i believe our Dline now is faster and better. we need to make sure we have a mush rush...where we dont force vick to run.....now im not saying dont pressure him but dont force him to run as in make him stay in the pocket for as long as u can. our run D has been improved tremendously....we just now need to make sure it shows up.
im not too worried about our O against thier D..yeah it willl be better than the vikings...bu then again most Ds are.
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soulja224466
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lol what am i saying tho? It's philly, in a nfc championship game...... :lol
falcons win
falcons win
DonasaurusRex
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GO EAGLES, just make it to the superbowl...just please..God..no dont lose. If the eagles lose thats it that whole team is going up for sale on Ebay.
Ninja Scooter
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:lol Donavan McNabb is a dumbass "The pressure is on Atlanta not us!" WTF? If you lose, you are about to become the poor man's Buffalo Bills!
soulja224466
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tmdorsey said:
We didn't even have the ball much in the second half. But when we did, it was all pass, pass,pass. It's really not hard to defend when you know what's coming(unless ur the rams d)
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tmdorsey said:
Not really, lot's of teams did it to us this year. :lol
This offense doesn't function well without the threat of a running game.
FrenchMovieTheme
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why is that picture funny? it was likely made by some retard packers fan, and it doesn't even make sense to me. why are there band guys in the background saying that? what does that have to do with anything? two thumbs DOWN for that "joke" pic
Damn I am sick of seeing that Visa Patriots commercial. It seems that the NFL Network has that thing running every 5 minutes. Even dumber now considering they weren't good enough to get homefield for this week......
Love the NFL Network's "He's got all kinds of time" commercial though.
On a more serious note, Cowher is saying he will probably start Bettis. I really hope that he plays a lot of Staley though. He looked great against the Jets. It is funny watching everyone jump on the Patriots bandwagon. Just what the Steelers needed, they always play their best games when they are underdogs.
Love the NFL Network's "He's got all kinds of time" commercial though.
On a more serious note, Cowher is saying he will probably start Bettis. I really hope that he plays a lot of Staley though. He looked great against the Jets. It is funny watching everyone jump on the Patriots bandwagon. Just what the Steelers needed, they always play their best games when they are underdogs.
I agree. Everyone and their mother was jumping on the Colts bandwagon last week and look what happened. I certainly would prefer that the Steelers are the underdog. I think this game could go either way, but as far as I'm concerned, the Steelers have a legit shot at winning this game. Home field will be huge and more pressure is on the Patriots. We already beat the Patriots once. Yeah yeah, no Dillon, but let's look at a few things. Big Ben had his worst game against the Jets and followed that up with his second worst game in the rematch. On the other hand, he had one of his best games against the Patriots earlier. Will they be tougher on him now that they've seen him once? I'm sure of it, but I don't see him having a bad game either. Beyond that, we ran all over the Patriots in the last meeting, and Corey Dillon won't help them stop the run at all. He'll help the offense, but it's not like the last game was even close. His presence will make the game closer, but I see the Steelers prevailing.
Whatever the case, it's going to be a great game. I can't wait.
bionic77 said:Damn I am sick of seeing that Visa Patriots commercial. It seems that the NFL Network has that thing running every 5 minutes. Even dumber now considering they weren't good enough to get homefield for this week......
Love the NFL Network's "He's got all kinds of time" commercial though.
On a more serious note, Cowher is saying he will probably start Bettis. I really hope that he plays a lot of Staley though. He looked great against the Jets. It is funny watching everyone jump on the Patriots bandwagon. Just what the Steelers needed, they always play their best games when they are underdogs.
That Patriots bandwagon is probably the most undercrowded bandwagon in the history of sports. They win how many games, some Super Bowls, and they're still underdogs to the fucking Colts in the snow?
I don't think the Pats will ever not be underrated. Seriously. Make your money while you can.
AstroLad said:
Patriots are a bettor's dream. It's because people have preconceived notions about them that are simply false,like how they only win close games. Patriots are 80% vs the spread over the last 2 years. 55-14 over the last 4. 32-4 over the last 2.
The return of Dillon and Pass(unheralded player but important) will certainly help with time of possession vs Pitt. That was a big problem last meeting. Scoring wasn't. The healthy additions of Branch and Givens won't hurt either. Defense was the biggest question mark after that game and they obviously fixed that so it should be a good rematch.
Nobody knows what the Patriots will do against Pitt but I think they might feature the passing game early. Don't be surprised if they come out 5 wide running their no huddle. It wouldn't surprise me at all.
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The Ravens hiring Fassel as OC is clearly a stopgap measure, but it works for everyone involved: Billick gets an experienced OC he has a good relationship with, Fassel has a high profile job that keeps him in the NFL instead sitting on his ass for a year until another head coaching job opens up, and Neuheisel (as quarterbacks coach) gets to learn from Fassel as he transitions to the eventual OC job when Fassel leaves.
I guess the negative is that it's still a temporary setup which may leave the team's offensive identity unclear when Neuheisel takes over.
I don't know enough about Rex Ryan to say how he'll do as DC, but he's been around the Ravens long enough that hopefully some of Marvin Lewis' and Mike Nolan's abilities have rubbed off on him.
I guess the negative is that it's still a temporary setup which may leave the team's offensive identity unclear when Neuheisel takes over.
I don't know enough about Rex Ryan to say how he'll do as DC, but he's been around the Ravens long enough that hopefully some of Marvin Lewis' and Mike Nolan's abilities have rubbed off on him.
Shit,I wish he would start Staley,he's a better blocker,receiver, and offers more of a big play mentality than the Bus.He was running all over the Jets when Cower put him in...I'm guessing he's still not 100% and that probably plays a large role in it.
Anyone know if Kendrell Bell will finally get off his ass this week?
Anyone know if Kendrell Bell will finally get off his ass this week?
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