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levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
I was watching Inside the NFL and I liked the fact that some of the Steelers fans immediately started chanting E-A-G-L-E-S to shut up some evil homo Pats fan who was talking some smack at the end of the game.


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Steagles fans unite!
 

TheDuce22

Banned
I was surprised by that too. Most steelers fans I know talked crap about the eagles all year. Pat Kirwan is my new hero, I have been saying this for years.

http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/8138233
I'm starting to think the phenomenon of parity is an excuse for some teams to hide behind it and justify why they don't succeed like our two Super Bowl contenders. New England and Philadelphia are the two best teams in the NFL after the single-elimination tournament that sends them to Jacksonville to decide the championship. But they were the best organizations over the past four years even before the playoff victories. Since 2001, the Patriots are 56-16 and the Eagles are 55-19. That is not parity for the rest of the NFL.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
The Rams going from last to first fostered the parity hype... really don't see it myself any different from the past 20 years while I've been a fan.
 

bionic77

Member
TheDuce22 said:
I was surprised by that too. Most steelers fans I know talked crap about the eagles all year. Pat Kirwan is my new hero, I have been saying this for years.

http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/8138233

Remember the Steelers did spank the Eagles earlier in the year, so just like you they wanted to have more "respect". That respect didn't prevent us from getting spanked by the Pats last week. Now Steelers fans are doing the noble thing and cheering for the one PA team left to slay the evil beast Brady.
 

Bowser

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Muhammad a hot Senior Bowl topic

With coaches, front-office workers, agents and scouts out in force, the Senior Bowl is a great rumor mill. One rumor involved Panthers receiver Muhsin Muhammad. The word is, Muhammad's agent, Joel Segal, gave the team a ballpark figure on what it will take to keep his client.

Muhammad remains under contract for 2005. But he's scheduled to have a $12.5 million salary-cap figure and to receive a $10 million roster bonus by March 2. Those numbers mean the Panthers either have to release Muhammad or sign him to a cap-friendly extension.

Segal spoke with the Panthers several times this week, and the sides are expected to continue talking. Segal and the Panthers don't comment on specifics of negotiations, but the buzz at the afternoon practice was that Segal told the Panthers it would take a five-year deal for about $35 million in total value, with a signing bonus of about $10 million, to keep Muhammad.

Five years? $35 mil + $10 mil signing bonus? I love Muhammad, but I think that's just too much for the Panthers to stomach. Plus, I doubt Muhammad will be in the league for more than three more years. I say let him go and get another reciever either in the first or second round of the draft.
 

Agent Icebeezy

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FrenchMovieTheme said:
i bet you some A-hole got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for creating the new logo :lol

I would have laugh at this, but the guy who named Taco Bell's hottest sauce, FIRE!, got a 7 figure raise
 

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levious said:
The Rams going from last to first fostered the parity hype... really don't see it myself any different from the past 20 years while I've been a fan.

I believe in it, it never seems to touch my Lions though
 

andthebeatgoeson

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And when you compare it to baseball and the Yankees continual playoff runs, parity looks a lot better than any other setup. Atlanta, San Diego and Steeler fans can attest to parity being a great thing. It kills to have a team slowly progress towards a championship. Now, everybody is just a season or two away from 'possibly' making it to the Super Bowl. Imagine how much life would fuckin suck if the Cowboys had made the playoffs for the last 10 years. Dynasties are only fun to watch when it's your team. Ask Karl Malone and Charles Barkley if they like dynasties. One good player and one great player that never have one a championship because of a fuckin dynasty. And I'm just kidding, Karl Malone is great player. But personally, he's a fuckin douche.
 
skinnyrattler said:
And when you compare it to baseball and the Yankees continual playoff runs, parity looks a lot better than any other setup. Atlanta, San Diego and Steeler fans can attest to parity being a great thing. It kills to have a team slowly progress towards a championship. Now, everybody is just a season or two away from 'possibly' making it to the Super Bowl. Imagine how much life would fuckin suck if the Cowboys had made the playoffs for the last 10 years. Dynasties are only fun to watch when it's your team. Ask Karl Malone and Charles Barkley if they like dynasties. One good player and one great player that never have one a championship because of a fuckin dynasty. And I'm just kidding, Karl Malone is great player. But personally, he's a fuckin douche.


football was never like that though, not even in the earlier days. No team has ever even won 3 straight Super Bowls. IMO, the NFL hasn't changed that much in terms of parity, its just that now the focus is much more on the orgainization. If you have a good set of coaches and GMs in place (like Beliechek or Andy Reid) you will have a team that is competitive on a yearly basis, despite losing players to free agency or injury.
 
skinnyrattler said:
Atlanta, San Diego and Steeler fans can attest to parity being a great thing.

Not sure what you're getting at there. Steelers have made the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 years, Atlanta two out of the last three. Chargers had their first in 9 years, which is what I suppose you're getting at. But if parity was so dominant in the league, you would think that the Chargers would have made it more than once in 9 years, right?

Let me try and debunk this parity jibba jabba.

There have been 9 super bowls since the Dallas dynasty (counting this one coming), featuring 18 teams. Of those 18 teams, 10 have been repeat contestants.....Packers two in a row, Broncos two in a row, Rams, two out of three years, and Patriots, 4, the last two in a row. That leaves the Falcons, Titans, Ravens, Giants, Bucs, Raiders, Panthers and Eagles as the "fresh" contestants. Out of those, you have/had 5 regular playoff contenders. The Titans, after losing the Super Bowl, made the playoffs three out of the next 4 years. The Ravens won the Super Bowl and made the playoffs two out of the next three. The Bucs, before finally winning it all, had made the playoffs for 4 straight seasons, and 5 out of 6. The Raiders SB appearance capped 3 playoff seasons in a row. And we all know about the Eagles, they're finally getting to the show in this, their fifth straight postseason year.

So that leaves us with the 98 Falcons, 00 Giants, and last year's Panthers. Falcons had a two year drought before their trip to the show and a three year one afterwards. Giants also had a two year drought before their SB appearance, one year after. They have missed the last two seasons though. That leaves the Panthers as the lone rebel. After making it to the conference title game in just their second year of existence, they then missed the playoffs for 6 years before their big run last year. Here's the interesting note, all three of these teams were 7-9 in the season before their Super Bowl year.....and all three lost the big game.

Which brings me to all this "worst to first" talk the media likes to dish out. There were only two teams that had worse records than the above three's (7-9) in the year before they made it to the big dance. The Patriots were 6-10 in 1995 before making it in 96 and the Rams were 4-12 in 98 before their SB in 99. Only the Rams brought home the Lombardi.
 

Bowser

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Steve Smith bashes Freddie Mitchell:

CHARLOTTE - It appears that Steve Smith is alive and well. That makes the Carolina Panthers very happy and, well, probably a little nervous, too. As Smith begins to feel better about recovering from the broken left leg that cost him all but three quarters and some change of last season, the mercurial receiver's mouth has been loosening up as well.

Say what you will about Smith, but he's pretty much always said and done whatever he wanted.

He doesn't worry about the consequences.

So it was last week that he openly ripped wide receiver Freddie Mitchell of the Philadelphia Eagles during an interview on Sporting News Radio.

"Freddie Mitchell has 22 catches (this season). He's not a premier receiver," Smith said. "My son in flag football had 22 catches. That's the level he's on."

Smith even took issue with the fact that Mitchell scored two touchdowns in the Eagles' second-round playoff win over Minnesota, one of which came when he recovered a teammate's fumble.

"Score with the ball. Don't catch somebody else's fumble.... Freddie Mitchell can't hold my jock," Smith said.

Warming up

Smith was just getting warmed up.

"Let's put my paycheck up with his paycheck. Let's put my touchdowns up with his touchdowns," he told the national-radio audience. "I got half of his receptions and I only played one game! And he got 22? Whoop-dee-do. He's an NFL player.

"You've got to be kidding me. He's a joke. All I have to say.... I was drafted in the third round. He was drafted in the first round. Hey, I'm not going to say it.... Bust.... Bust.... And I'm not talking about Jerome the Bus either. He's garbage and Steve Smith said it. If he's got a problem, he knows where to find me - North Carolina."

:lol
 

TheDuce22

Banned
The nfc south hates philly and we hate them. Its a mutual agreement. Every idiot panthers or bucs player they could find had a segment on the nfl network where they picked against us and trashed our defense before these playoff games. So many haters are going to be dissapointed after this game.
 

effzee

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wow smith got his panties in a bunch. anyone who takes mitchell seriously is seriously retarded...he is just a comedian and what the media is missing with TO gone for now.

we all know he is a bust considering where he was drafted but he stepped up in that minn game and he will go across the middle to make tough catches.....and with TO as our starter we dont need much and we dont ask much else of Freddie.
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
:lol

That's great. Freddie Mitchell is going to get his neck snapped during the Super Bowl, by the way. You don't call out Rodney Harrison. You don't call out anybody on the Patriots, but you sure as fuck don't call out the best player in their secondary, a guy who should get a fricking medal with all of the charity donations coming from his fines.

By the way, it's taken a full week but I can finally discuss football again. It's a good thing this bye week exists before the Super Bowl, otherwise I wouldn't even watch the game.

And put me on the side of Steelers fans rooting for the Patriots. Not only would I like the Patriots absent the Steelers ass-kicking they just laid down, but I very much want Eagles fans to shut the fuck up. I hope this game goes down as one of the most spectacular Super Bowl beat-downs in history. I'm talking San Fran-San Diego spectacular.
 

effzee

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wow this seems to be the superbowl of the two most hated teams....i dont get it but oh well.


i for one like the patriots and just marvel them and thier system. not only cause it works but the eagles pretty much are the mirror image in terms of how the team is build and structured from the FO.




eagles arrive in jax today at 6 i think...espn should have a live press conference....ill be on the road but man it begins....7 days...quite possibly the longest 7 days of my life.
 
you have to give Freddie Mitchell credit. How else would a guy with pathetic numbers like his this season be getting so much publicity and air time? He's doing a good job of playing the media. Rodney Harrison is the last guy i'd be calling out though, especially if im a 3rd or 4th string type reciever. Harrison might just decapitate Freddie.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
effzee said:
wow smith got his panties in a bunch. anyone who takes mitchell seriously is seriously retarded...he is just a comedian and what the media is missing with TO gone for now.

we all know he is a bust considering where he was drafted but he stepped up in that minn game and he will go across the middle to make tough catches.....and with TO as our starter we dont need much and we dont ask much else of Freddie.

Well Mitchell might have been joking, but Smith sure fucking wasn't. Ho-lee shit that's some trash talking. Doesn't mean much coming from someone whose team wasn't even in the playoffs against someone whose team is in the SB, though.
 
AstroLad said:
Well Mitchell might have been joking, but Smith sure fucking wasn't. Ho-lee shit that's some trash talking. Doesn't mean much coming from someone whose team wasn't even in the playoffs against someone whose team is in the SB, though.

Smith's team WAS in the superbowl last year, and unlike Freddie, he actually contributed a lot to that appearance. Freddie Mitchell talking trash is akin to when Mike Vanderjagt opens his mouth.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Ninja Scooter said:
Smith's team WAS in the superbowl last year, and unlike Freddie, he actually contributed a lot to that appearance. Freddie Mitchell talking trash is akin to when Mike Vanderjagt opens his mouth.

What I'm saying is it's easy to talk shit when you don't have to back it up (e.g. you've been sitting on your ass for months and will continue to do so). I thought it was funny as hell, and I'm not defending Mitchell, but I don't quite give Smith's words that much weight either.
 
I was starting to think of rooting for the Eagles, but then my gonad of a brother-in-law, who lives 20 minutes out of Philly and knows spit about football, had to open his mouth about the Steelers losing. So let's go Pats. I don't mind some trash talking from real fans, but when these fly by night people who watch only one game a year start talking crap, it ticks me off to no end. For instance, I never said a word to him after the Steelers pounded the snot out of the Eagles this year....and it's because I'm pretty sure he had no clue they were even playing that week.
 

bionic77

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Spectral Glider said:
I was starting to think of rooting for the Eagles, but then my gonad of a brother-in-law, who lives 20 minutes out of Philly and knows spit about football, had to open his mouth about the Steelers losing. So let's go Pats. I don't mind some trash talking from real fans, but when these fly by night people who watch only one game a year start talking crap, it ticks me off to no end. For instance, I never said a word to him after the Steelers pounded the snot out of the Eagles this year....and it's because I'm pretty sure he had no clue they were even playing that week.

Dude what is it with fucking Eagles fans? They just can't keep their mouths shut. I grew up about an hour from Philly, so everyone I grew up is an Eagles fan and they just talk more trash then any other 3 fans combined. And as much as I hate the Pats, it seems like all their fans( that I know) acted in a classy manner after they raped the Steelers.

I was real close to punching a friend of mine in the mouth (an Eagles fan) who started talking trash about the Steelers after the AFC Championship.

I still want the Eagles to win because my hatred for Tom Brady knows no bounds, but really I am starting to hope that somehow there is some way for both of them to lose and be humiliated. I am sure there is some crazy rule in the NFL rulebook where both teams lose the SuperBowl and John Madden somehow walks home with the Lombardi trophy.
 
bionic77 said:
Dude what is it with fucking Eagles fans? They just can't keep their mouths shut. I grew up about an hour from Philly, so everyone I grew up is an Eagles fan and they just talk more trash then any other 3 fans combined. And as much as I hate the Pats, it seems like all their fans( that I know) acted in a classy manner after they raped the Steelers.

I was real close to punching a friend of mine in the mouth (an Eagles fan) who started talking trash about the Steelers after the AFC Championship.

I still want the Eagles to win because my hatred for Tom Brady knows no bounds, but really I am starting to hope that somehow there is some way for both of them to lose and be humiliated. I am sure there is some crazy rule in the NFL rulebook where both teams lose the SuperBowl and John Madden somehow walks home with the Lombardi trophy.

Well, let's see, short of a catastrophic, natural disaster the odds of both teams losing are pretty slim. How about this though, Brady gets crushed in the first half and Jim Miller (a former Steeler) has to come in and lead an improbable victory. The only crazier thing that could happen would be for Hank Poteat to pick off McNabb and return it for the game winning TD. :lol
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
TheDuce22 said:
Give me a break, Eagles fans have taken more crap over the past 4 years than you can imagine. Let us have our fun. :)

I'm sure Bills fans could imagine...
 

bionic77

Member
TheDuce22 said:
Give me a break, Eagles fans have taken more crap over the past 4 years than you can imagine. Let us have our fun. :)

I think a lot of that is self inflicted.....

It could just be that every Eagles fan I know (hundreds of them) could just be the only bad apples and the rest never talk up a tremendous amount of shit on every team each year. I really doubt that though. And I am from PA not from South Jersey so don't try and blame them for Eagles fan behavior Though I am convinced that the Philly fans from South Jersey are mutants, but that is off topic.....

Still, asshole fans or not, McNabb at least deserves to win the Superbowl once. He is too good not to. Even if the fans may not deserve it, he sure does.
 

tmdorsey

Member
bionic77 said:
Still, asshole fans or not, McNabb at least deserves to win the Superbowl once. He is too good not to. Even if the fans may not deserve it, he sure does.


Pretty much why I'm rooting for the Eagles to win on Sunday. That and the fact I still have some lingering hate for the Patriots.
 

TheDuce22

Banned
I think south jersey is some kind of bizarre experiment in cloning gone wrong. I swear they almost all look and act exactly the same. Eagles fans are probably more in your face because we have had a very good team year after year. If cleveland had been to 4 straight afc championships you would be wishing for the days of shit talking philly fans.
 

Bowser

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Ranking Super Bowl QBs 1-80

4. Jake Delhomme, Super Bowl XXXVIII
By far the greatest performance in a losing effort, even more astonishing because with three minutes left in the first half, the Patriots had outgained the Panthers 125 yards to -7 and Delhomme had completed one pass for one yard. His clutch second half was good enough to win the game, but Carolina's special teams and defense could not hold at the end.

Ironic isn't it? The defense and special teams that was the most important proponent of our Super Bowl run failed to show up during the most important game of the season :(
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
Have other people heard this story?


Back when the Pats cut Lawyer Milloy and lost to Buffalo 31-0 en route to another Super Bowl victory, tons of sportswriters were ripping Belichick a new one. On Sunday Countdown Tom Jackson looked right in the camera and said "Let me get one thing striaght, the players on this team HATE their coach."
However, Jackson had not personally spoken with a single player on the Pats for this info.
Well, Belichick and a bunch of players watched this from their hotel where they were in Philadelphia. Belichick was enraged, and never forgave Jackson for it.
Jackson later in the season once the Pats were playing great said numerous times "These guys LOVE their coach" and laughed about it, but never apologized for anything he said before.
Belichick boycotted ESPN the rest of the season, except for an interview he did with Chris Berman the night the Pats beat the Panthers because he was close friends with Berman outside of their coach/journalist relationship.
Right before the interview, Tom Jackson walked up to Belichick to offer his congratulations and extended his arm for a handshake. Belichick stared him down, and said two words: "Fuck you." and then he walked away.
 

bionic77

Member
TheDuce22 said:
I think south jersey is some kind of bizarre experiment in cloning gone wrong. I swear they almost all look and act exactly the same. Eagles fans are probably more in your face because we have had a very good team year after year. If cleveland had been to 4 straight afc championships you would be wishing for the days of shit talking philly fans.

You know everytime the Eagles fans do something atrocious they always blame the South Jersey fans. And obviously South Jersey mutants can't be responsible for 100% of the actions, so that always amuses me.

However, I must admit there is something seriously fucking wrong with South Jersey. Anyone from Philly knows exactly what we are talking about.
 

border

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I'm in Jacksonville and this is obviously the first time we've hosted a Superbowl. Can anybody from previous host cities tell me.....exactly how much should I expect the town to shut down? Will I be okay if I just avoid downtown or will it bring traffic/service everywhere to a halt?
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
border said:
I'm in Jacksonville and this is obviously the first time we've hosted a Superbowl. Can anybody from previous host cities tell me.....exactly how much should I expect the town to shut down? Will I be okay if I just avoid downtown or will it bring traffic/service everywhere to a halt?

I was in Phx (well, Tempe actually, where it was hosted) for SB XXX and it wasn't that bad but you have to make sure to avoid all roads even remotely tied to the stadium and other event areas. Also I know it's become much more of an event beyond the SB & NFL Experience since even then, so look out for where all the crap is going down, and stay the fuck away from hotel areas. If you're a decent ways away you should be OK but then again Jax is pretty small so you may feel the impact more (e.g. "take over the whole town" kind of feeling more).
 
Calling a Patriots win by at least 17. The Iggles toughest competition faced this year was the Redskins, and we saw what a good defense can do against a not so good offense.
 

keiichi

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Incognito said:
Calling a Patriots win by at least 17. The Iggles toughest competition faced this year was the Redskins, and we saw what a good defense can do against a not so good offense.

Redskins? Not the Steelers??
 

TheDuce22

Banned
The Iggles toughest competition faced this year was the Redskins, and we saw what a good defense can do against a not so good offense.

I cant think of a more ignorant statement than this... wait, yes I can. The patroits will lose because they lost to miami and got dominated by the steelers. You cant pick out one specific game and act as if it backs up your argument somehow. On top of that, the most points you allowed all year was 28. I bet you can guess who your opponent was.
 
Super Bowl to feature tiny 'Turf Cam'

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/02/01/superbowl.camera.reut/index.html

Some of the most interesting shots of next Sunday's big Super Bowl game could come from a small camera.

A very small camera.

Fox Sports has planted so-called Turf Cams around Alltel Stadium in Jacksonville, Florida -- including four on the field where the New England Patriots and the Philadelphia Eagles will play Super Bowl XXXIX. Eight more of the Turf Cams aren't in the turf at all -- they'll be mounted at the end zones.

"They're so tiny, they're effectively the size of an eraser on a pencil," says David Hill, chairman of Fox Sports and a driving force behind his network's use of technology during sporting events.


For the Super Bowl, Fox got the NFL's approval. When the new turf was being placed onto the field after the Florida Panthers' last game, technicians laid devices about half the size of a cigar box and cable underneath the field. They'll place the eraser-sized cameras this week.

Two of the Turf Cams will be placed around each 20-yard line facing the end zone, and the other two at the three-yard lines where snaps are done for extra points. The cameras will be placed at 45-degree angles prior to the game. Video will be fed to Fox's production truck and, if it's good, they'll put it on the air.

"We're hoping we get four, five, maybe six plays that we can take a shot, prior to snap, as to what it looks like looking up at these huge players," Brown says.


Fox says there's no chance that players could be hurt by landing on the cameras. But the same can't be said about the Turf Cams.

"There's definitely that concern," Brown says about the possibility of damage, although if a player steps on a Turf Cam there's a chance it will bounce back and remain usable. Plus, a football field is pretty big.

"We're hoping that the odds are with us that nobody will step on these four little-size cameras," Brown says.

Fox says there's no expectation about the Turf Cams, which might pick up action and it might not. Brown says it's about giving the viewers something different.

Hill says the whole thing's a gamble and figures there's a 100 to 1 chance of getting something useful.

"If you see something, it's great. If not, it's no big whup," he says.

Could be interesting, but I remember how Super Bowl XXXV (Ravens/Giants) featured a Matrix-style replay courtesy of twenty or forty (or a hundred?) cameras that ringed the upper deck of the stadium. It didn't really add that much, and I don't remember it ever being used again.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
SWEET. IT'LL BE JUST AS GREAT AS THE HOME PLATE CAMERA DURING THE MLB PLAY-OFFS LAST YEAR! THAT THING SURE WAS GREAT
 

DMczaf

Member
Eminem said:
SWEET. IT'LL BE JUST AS GREAT AS THE HOME PLATE CAMERA DURING THE MLB PLAY-OFFS LAST YEAR! THAT THING SURE WAS GREAT

Don't forget about ABC's Upskirt Cam. Guess which big man isn't wearing underwear tonight?!
 
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