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The Nintendo 64 Appreciation/Collecting/Emulation Thread.
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Later Alligator
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grabbed a few games at the flea market today
starfox 64, perfect dark, and carmaggedon for the laughs as its supposed to be the worst game ever made
starfox 64, perfect dark, and carmaggedon for the laughs as its supposed to be the worst game ever made
A Black Falcon
Member
My copy of Getter Love came in the mail today.
All I need I know are the Mystical Ninja games and I'm done with my collection.
I want that, but it's surprisingly pricey... particularly for something which is essentially a dating sim minigame collection boardgame thing.
kunonabi
Member
Yeah, it cost a pretty penny but the premise is just too nutty for me to pass up.
A Black Falcon
Member
Yeah... I mean, a four player multiplayer dating sim minigame collection boardgame is actually a thing? And from Hudson? Yes it is, and it's that game. Crazy stuff.
soxinthebox
Member
Is there an emulator out there that tries reproduce a somewhat authentic experience (slow down and big jaggies) in the same way something like Chocolate Doom does for Doom?
Currently use sixtyforce on my laptop but it's pretty buggy and wondering if there's a better option.
Currently use sixtyforce on my laptop but it's pretty buggy and wondering if there's a better option.
N64 emulation on the whole is currently shit. It's buggy, full of hacks and wildly inaccurate.
This arrived today.
I always see people praising this version, should be interesting.
N64 emulation is garbage sadly, don't bother.
I always see people praising this version, should be interesting.
N64 emulation is garbage sadly, don't bother.
sixteen-bit
Member
uh, Wii Virtual Console?
Starfox 64 originally had an improved frame on VC. People complained so Nintendo removed that version and replaced it with one that ran more like the N64 original.
xclaw
Member
This arrived today.
I always see people praising this version, should be interesting.
N64 emulation is garbage sadly, don't bother.
So good, I just managed to get that cart myself. Can't wait to dive into it this weekend.
zephervack
Member
This arrived today.
I always see people praising this version, should be interesting.
N64 emulation is garbage sadly, don't bother.
Dont want to imagine the damage that CRT would cause if it falls on top of your consoles, also, lol at the Wii all the way in the bottom.
My first impression: It's really fucking dark. I had to turn the brightness right up.
Heh, I just don't have enough space! I'll be getting a replacement TV stand soon enough
Later Alligator
Member
anyone with an xrgb, what types of video outputs are available on it? is it worth getting if you dont plan on rgb modding your older systems?
for example, i'd probably just use composite for my n64 and nes... my other systems that support rgb without a mod (snes, genesis, etc....) i would do rgb on as it would just require me buying a cable
for example, i'd probably just use composite for my n64 and nes... my other systems that support rgb without a mod (snes, genesis, etc....) i would do rgb on as it would just require me buying a cable
the clue is in the name
xRGB
absolutely not worth buying it unless you're using RGB SCART input. Composite still looks shit, even through the XRGB. If the majority of your stuff is RGB output then sure, get one.
Shadow Hog
Member
That sounds kind of dumb. I mean, I suppose if the slowdown was absolutely necessary for getting through the game or something, but otherwise why wouldn't you want the smoother-running version?
Seems like a waste to get an XRGB and then not try and get RGB out on most of your systems.
What systems are you working with?
You've done well.This arrived today.
I always see people praising this version, should be interesting.
sixteen-bit
Member
It's a double edged sword. In the end authenticity won out but there should also be an option for people who want a smoother experience. I don't know why they didn't leave both up there.
AFAIK, no-one complained about it originally. It got pointed out, and Nintendo (in their quest to give you as close to the exact same experience you had years ago) changed it.
Later Alligator
Member
nes, genesis (2), snes, ps2, xbox, n64, dreamcast
Fox Mulder
Member
people like what they like. Some like scanlines and blurry filters, and I've seen someone make starfox carts running faster on the super fx2 chip.
they could just offer a setting to toggle that.
chalkitdown1
Member
I hated the controls, the original is far easier to play. The slider on the 3DS is so goddamn sensitive, it makes it so difficult to aim.
There's also the new voices... (apart from Fox & Slippy).
You should probably go with Component for the PS2 and Xbox. Best output on Dreamcast is VGA which the XRGB mini doesn't really support, but you could still do RGB unmodded I believe.
So the NES and the N64 are the only ones you would need to get RGB modded. The NES RGB mod is fairly expensive, as the chip itself is $90 AU, and the labor is fairly complicated. If you don't get your NES modded, then composite is the best you could hope for, which looks like shit. The N64 doesn't really support RGB, and only certain models can be modded to do so. At the very least it supports S-Video natively, which is still good and a big improvement over composite.
soxinthebox
Member
The new voices were the worst. I remember picking it up and from that first mission hearing "good luck" in a different voice was disappointing.
soxinthebox
Member
Yeah figured as much. Just ordered an Everdrive to see if NTSC versions of my games make them more playable since PAL was apparently slower.
Is it worth getting an S-Video cable or is the difference negligible compared to composite?
Back-up plan is to set up my old CRT in the office but my partner won't be impressed.
yeah, s video is the way to go unless you want to get an RGB modded console.
Certainly not negligible. RGB > S-Video >>> Composite. S-Video is still going to clean up most of the picture instability and nasty edges of composite, as well as give you a sharper and brighter picture.
I actually posted a comparison between S Video and RGB from my old CRT. I'll repost it here, as it's relevant:
Not the best of photos, as I'm using a crappy phone camera, but you can see the difference in clarity:
SVIDEO
RGB
SVIDEO (look at the stairs)
RGB
SVIDEO
RGB
It's hard to tell through these photos, but the colour on the RGB console is far, far more vibrant. And in motion, there's no comparison.
Not the best of photos, as I'm using a crappy phone camera, but you can see the difference in clarity:
SVIDEO
RGB
SVIDEO (look at the stairs)
RGB
SVIDEO
RGB
It's hard to tell through these photos, but the colour on the RGB console is far, far more vibrant. And in motion, there's no comparison.
Alcoholikaust
Member
doom 64. so fantastic-and scary
I need to find a good cheap CRT so I can bust out my N64 in all it's glory.
been dying for some PD too
I need to find a good cheap CRT so I can bust out my N64 in all it's glory.
been dying for some PD too
soxinthebox
Member
Did you happen to do the same tests on a HDTV?
nope...could do though. I'll need to order a new S Video cable though.
soxinthebox
Member
Don't worry about that. I'll check if I even have the option to use it when I get back home after the weekend.
PAL N64's have issues with Svideo I think. http://lifein16bit.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/getting-most-out-of-your-pal-n64.html goes into it somewhat (and has composite and svideo comparison screenshots).
I'd deffo go svideo as a minimum if you can, as well as NTSC.
sixteen-bit
Member
Spoilers:
poorly.
xclaw
Member
The controls are not at all how I remembered it, I hope you fair better than I.
FreedomFighter
Member
Can't wait 'til we get N64 games on Wii U.
One day...
One day...
I read the IGN review after ordering it...it sounds horrible lol. The controls, and the Tribals and shit.
But it will be fun for 5 minutes and that's worth it for me.
Can't wait 'til we get N64 games on Wii U.
One day...
They still look GREAT on the Wii side of the Wii U, too. Like...legit great. I know the Wii U upscales the Wii and everything, but it translates really well.
I just want my save states and I'm set!
A Black Falcon
Member
Once you get used to the controls, it's still a great game.
baphomet
Member
Lynd7
Member
I got a PAL S-video cable from console goods in the UK, I thought it's at least a step up from composite on my 720p display.
It looks ok, not a great deal sharper or anything. It's strange though, Conker doesn't sit properly in the 4:3 frame, the image is being displayed to the right and down a bit. Any ideas why that would be?
It looks ok, not a great deal sharper or anything. It's strange though, Conker doesn't sit properly in the 4:3 frame, the image is being displayed to the right and down a bit. Any ideas why that would be?
Yep, that was me! Posted here right afterwards. I wanted to be sure to buy from you after reading through this thread, then I saw some were available. Got everything else while I was at it so I could enjoy it soon. Thanks for helping me be sure I got everything.
baphomet
Member
Very cool! You'll definitely enjoy it with that XRGB. If you ever need any other stuff done you can always just pm me on here. I generally cut GAF members deals. It'll go out on wed with a bunch of other stuff I've got to ship, but I'll post the tracking on there for you. Thanks a bunch!
Hayama Akito
Member
Still love the N64 even if i love PS more. Saturn is also awesome but mostly for Arcade ports (for my taste).
This is my collection, sorry about the quality:
Things that i am VERY happy to have:
- Battle Adventure Racing! (so fucking good! not in the picture at that moment)
- Bangai-O
- Bomberman 64 (the Japanese one, the last N64 game on the region)
- CBFD
- Doubutsu no Mori
- F-Zero X
- GoldenEye 007
- Ocarina (golden cart)
- Pokémon Puzzle League
- Ridge Racer 64
- Sin & Punishment
- Starfox 64
- Wave Race Shindou Edition
- Wonder Project J2
Things that i really want:
- Mischief Makers
- Getter Love!!
- Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon (damn!)
- Goemon's Great Adventure
- Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
- Ogre Battle 64
- Paper Mario
- Resident Evil 2
- Rocket: Robot on Wheels
This is my collection, sorry about the quality:
Things that i am VERY happy to have:
- Battle Adventure Racing! (so fucking good! not in the picture at that moment)
- Bangai-O
- Bomberman 64 (the Japanese one, the last N64 game on the region)
- CBFD
- Doubutsu no Mori
- F-Zero X
- GoldenEye 007
- Ocarina (golden cart)
- Pokémon Puzzle League
- Ridge Racer 64
- Sin & Punishment
- Starfox 64
- Wave Race Shindou Edition
- Wonder Project J2
Things that i really want:
- Mischief Makers
- Getter Love!!
- Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon (damn!)
- Goemon's Great Adventure
- Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
- Ogre Battle 64
- Paper Mario
- Resident Evil 2
- Rocket: Robot on Wheels