The Nintendo GameCube Appreciation and Collecting Thread.
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polyphenus
Neo Member
On the topic of SD Media Launcher, if I'm supposed to keep it in Memory Card Slot A, then how do I save to a memory card in Slot B? Some games don't read Slot B and then I'm stuck not being able to save...
This is only when I'm playing an ISO off the SDML memory card and not a burned disc.
I've ordered a Xeno GC from eBay and will solder it into a spare GCN sometime this week, so I doubt this will be as big an issue once I'm fully modded. Still, ISOs are very convenient, and I'd like to be able to save my progress somehow...
Thoughts, experience, etc.?
This is only when I'm playing an ISO off the SDML memory card and not a burned disc.
I've ordered a Xeno GC from eBay and will solder it into a spare GCN sometime this week, so I doubt this will be as big an issue once I'm fully modded. Still, ISOs are very convenient, and I'd like to be able to save my progress somehow...
Thoughts, experience, etc.?
socksfelloff
Member
There's so many variables it would be impossible to show all of them. I totally get what you're saying in both posts and at the end of the day it all comes down to individual preference anyway.
The purpose of the comparison was just to show it under a single controlled environment. Everything runs through the same units under the same settings captured with the same device.
If the Wiiu uses a filter on output everyone who uses nintendont will have the same picture. I'm going to assume the filter is not applied on component out which leads to another comparison I now want to do lol.
After you've launched an app you can actually remove the card from slot A before launching a game and you can tell Swiss to use slot B to search images. That might help you.
The sharpening only applies to WiiU upscaling. 480p is not affected by this. Also, iirc, you point out how WiiU 480p looks washed out in RE4. Im thinking that the upscale process is also affecting the black levels in some strange way. After all Nintendo didn't intend for GC games to be scaled on WiiU.
Anyway the point is that you can't use the same settings across the board and make a fair and equal comparison when black levels are all over the place. In all likelihood you are capturing the wrong color space and/or cutting off black detail or blowing out brightness. You have to be able to adjust capture setting in a manner not unlike calibrating a television.
Taco_Human
Member
Anyone wanna buy a copy of F Zero GX from me? It's disc only. I didn't notice I have a second copy.
polyphenus
Neo Member
That's a really good idea. I tried this while using both Swiss (0.3, I think) and the GCOS viper file from a YouTube video.
On the first try with Swiss, the ISO loaded but I only got a black screen when trying to load a save file I forgot that I had. The next few tries to load from Slot B were a no-go.
So I tried using the other GCOS file. At first, switching to Slot B was a no-go, but I was able to get the ISO and save file to load by keeping SDML in Slot A and the memory card in Slot B. It seems the game I was using could read from both slots.
So is there a more recent, stable built of Swiss that I should be using? I'll continue to try to get this to work with what I have at the moment.
There's a Swiss nightly build thread for the most up to date versions. http://www.gc-forever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1375
Also, it's been a while since I last used Swiss since I now use Nintendon't, but I think I remember seeing an option in Swiss to emulate memory card saves on the SD card.
polyphenus
Neo Member
I will give the latest nightly build a try! Thanks for reminding me about this.
I ordered the second one. Thanks for the help. I'll update the thread when I try it out.
Much appreciated!
NormalFish
Banned
Saw this on reddit and thought folks in here might find it interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSDVY6Q9pfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSDVY6Q9pfk
sixteen-bit
Member
Interesting mod. Alternate reality if TP was an Xbox game.
That latter card worked. Thanks for the help
Good to hear! Happy hacking!
I don't normally like mods like these, but this one is very well done. One of the best I've seen.
Did Chibi Robo on GC ever get a PAL release?
Been getting back into Nintendo GameCube collecting. I've always had a soft spot for the GC, and have always been thankful the majority of my games from launch as a young kid survived intact (my SNES and N64 games weren't as well looked after). I have most of the first party gems (except Fire Emblem: PoR, damn that's hard to find) but was wondering what people think of Baten Kaitos Origins, Custom Robo and any other NTSC only games that might be worth snagging should I somehow find a deal?
Been getting back into Nintendo GameCube collecting. I've always had a soft spot for the GC, and have always been thankful the majority of my games from launch as a young kid survived intact (my SNES and N64 games weren't as well looked after). I have most of the first party gems (except Fire Emblem: PoR, damn that's hard to find) but was wondering what people think of Baten Kaitos Origins, Custom Robo and any other NTSC only games that might be worth snagging should I somehow find a deal?
TheMoon
Member
Yes. If you're ever curious about these things, just look it up here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/gamecube/583171-chibi-robo/data
sixteen-bit
Member
Speaking of Chibi Robo, I'm thinking about getting the amiibo lol. Not really interested in the 3DS game though; it doesn't look appealing to me.
IrishNinja
Member
Made a nice pickup this week for some of my most-wanted GCN games.
That "Tome of Eternal Darkness" is a prop Nintendo sent out with review copies of the game. If you open it, the center is cut out to hide the game case. It's pretty neat.
Wind Waker is signed by Aonuma and Smash Bros. by Sakurai. Beyond Good & Evil is signed by Michel Ancel, who also drew this on the inside of the art sleeve:
Such glorious trolling (this was in 2006)!
these are amazing, damn fine collection. props man!
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Looks like the Melee community might end up with an alternative to Datel's SD launcher. Someone is making an SD loader for 20XXTE that would be available for about $12 (sounds like it includes both the memory card adapter and a compatible SD card). Particularly useful for NA/NTSC folks since we have no idea how many Datel has left.
Only thing I'm not sure about is how full-featured that might be. The 20XXTE loader uses a modified Swiss build that might be fine, and you might even be able to just replace that with a standard Swiss build. It also uses a modified Melee save to activate an exploit to use it, rather than the SD Media Launcher/Action Replay disc. I'd guess most GC collectors already have Melee, but if not that's a big downside since Melee is not cheap.
Just thought I'd mention that since there has been a fair amount of talk about SD loaders, and Datel's seems to be the only option right now other than DIYs.
Only thing I'm not sure about is how full-featured that might be. The 20XXTE loader uses a modified Swiss build that might be fine, and you might even be able to just replace that with a standard Swiss build. It also uses a modified Melee save to activate an exploit to use it, rather than the SD Media Launcher/Action Replay disc. I'd guess most GC collectors already have Melee, but if not that's a big downside since Melee is not cheap.
Just thought I'd mention that since there has been a fair amount of talk about SD loaders, and Datel's seems to be the only option right now other than DIYs.
sixteen-bit
Member
Sounds promising. I look forward to hearing more about it.
Cheers. So I'm guessing the EU-only release (I'm in Australia) would already be scarce to begin with? Argh.
Yes it did, they are going for crazy prices actually!
Yeah I see now. Oh man... it's Fire Emblem: PoR-tier price.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Anyone know a good quality, cheap 3rd party GBA link cable? I'm looking to buy 3 more and the official ones seem to have recently gotten more expensive.
sixteen-bit
Member
I have used the Nyko one in the past. It works well but the clips are metal (not plastic) so be aware they might mark up your GBA when inserting or removing.
alf717
Member
I paid ~$30ish for a second copy back in 2007ish. So I would say you are getting a nice deal.
So somebody got a hell of a deal:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131620693655
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131620693655
sixteen-bit
Member
more than worth it for the cables alone
Yeah that's what I was referring to. But overall someone made out like a bandit.
IrishNinja
Member
man, just one bid too! dudes caught sleeping...makes me happy to see shit slide past, congrats to the winner there
...I'm jealous!
Damn, how did that seller not know that the component cable alone goes for way more than that?
socksfelloff
Member
Ugh I need to keep an eye on eBay more often. I missed that great deal posted above but I did just nab kirby's air ride CIB for $28cdn though!
I'd say the majority of the population of this world has never thought about GameCube component cables.
Oh man, I just picked up a copy of Bloody Roar on GC in my fevered quest to buy anything Hudsonsoft ever made.
It's GREAT! I'm really bummed I never played it at the time. Super easy to pick up and play.
Question though... I know the Japanese version has Progressive Scan support, but is there some way to force it in the USA release? It'd look so nice...
It's GREAT! I'm really bummed I never played it at the time. Super easy to pick up and play.
Question though... I know the Japanese version has Progressive Scan support, but is there some way to force it in the USA release? It'd look so nice...
sixteen-bit
Member
Technically Eighting made it.
Since giving up on STGs they have made a lot of B-tier and anime-licensed fighting games, but more recently they did TvC and MvC3.
Since giving up on STGs they have made a lot of B-tier and anime-licensed fighting games, but more recently they did TvC and MvC3.
For Gamecube, only through Swiss.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Seller and buyer both probably knew. There was only one bid. Seller just got extremely unlucky nobody else bid.
Pancakes R Us
Member
I love this post. Take a bow, son. Take a bow.
socksfelloff
Member
Pancakes R Us
Member
There was a girl band in the UK during the 90s, called Eternal. They had a hit single (I think) called Always and Forever.
I had no idea the cables were so crazy expensive until I saw them listed on http://videogames.pricecharting.com/ and then saw the OP of this thread. I just bought one I saw used in a GameStop nine years ago because I had heard they would make Twilight Princess look better on our brand-new HD TV. I rarely used it after that. And my parents said they almost donated all of my old game stuff to Goodwill about a year or two ago. So, yeah, I feel there are probably a lot of good deals slipping by out there because of people not understanding the value of what they have. I think it's even more likely in this case because who thinks of a cable as being extremely rare and valuable? I can't think of anything quite like the GameCube component cable in this respect. Maybe the DreamCast VGA box?
PumpkinSpice
Banned
So, um... thanks for the idea
Saw this, thought "what's that cable":
Looked at more photos and yep that's a Gamecube d-terminal cable (JP component)
I used bid sniping software just in case but I really didn't need to, both of those bids are me.
Plus you know who doesn't want a JP copy of Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix?
Will go nicely with my FM. I guess I should region mod either this or my existing JP cube, cause my American one is a DOL-101. I wasn't really ever planning on owning these cables given how ridiculously expensive they are.
Keep an eye out CubeGAF!
IrishNinja
Member
^nice! you're lucky nintendo can't region lock cables, haha
sixteen-bit
Member
Nice get on the D-Terminal
So, um... thanks for the idea
Saw this, thought "what's that cable":
Looked at more photos and yep that's a Gamecube d-terminal cable (JP component)
I used bid sniping software just in case but I really didn't need to, both of those bids are me.
Plus you know who doesn't want a JP copy of Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix?
Will go nicely with my FM. I guess I should region mod either this or my existing JP cube, cause my American one is a DOL-101. I wasn't really ever planning on owning these cables given how ridiculously expensive they are.
Keep an eye out CubeGAF!
That's what I did two or so years ago. I used to have a sweet cube collection but my folks' house was robbed when I was at grad school and they took my purple cube, purple GBP import, bongos, component cables, etc.
I waited for months and found a black launch cube (has the weird line from the side to the eject button before they fixed the mold), 10 games (including all of the REs and 3-4 solid titles), extra controller (wavebird), and component cables. I always just used "Search Description" and checked daily with the eBay app (kept the old one, the new one sucks) so I only saw new auctions and could look though all the garbage easily (i.e. the tons of listings were the word component came up because they were DOL-001s). The one I ended up winning was only ~$180. When I priced everything out I ended up paying $30-$40 max for the cable and it was all in fantastic condition.
Basically when I found that auction I linked to I just searched for silver gamecube and was like, damn, someone made out like a BANDIT.
If you're looking for the D-terminal or component cable I'd suggest patience and looking this way. Anyone who lists it in this type of listing, since they're the type of people who are just selling something similar to moms/pops and grandparents may just throw something out at a garage sale and less like the gamers who are savy/out to make the most money. Just my two cents.
TheMoon
Member
Low print run because GCN = dead (it came out a week after the Wii launch).