GustyGardens
Banned
If anyone is near Chula Vista, CA there's a guy selling 4 wavebirds for $70. They all have receivers, too. Here's the link: http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/vgm/5170029261.html
The Nintendo GameCube Appreciation and Collecting Thread.
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Pancakes R Us
Member
No problem. Best of luck with your project.
Argh, you make me want an orange controller now.
DeuceGamer
Member
Price increases haven't skipped N64. Prices have been steadily increasing. Take a look:
http://videogames.pricecharting.com/console/nintendo-64?sort-by=name
I do agree though that Gamecube will continue and at some point in the future Wii will start, though it may take a while for some games due to the number of Wii's and Wii games in the wild.
dragonyeuw
Member
Yeah I see a few WTF prices but generally it looks like most of the stuff people would want won't cost you a kidney. Conkers seemed like one of the big name titles to get a major spike. I don't think overall the n64 is treated with the same reverence as the snes.
DeuceGamer
Member
The prices haven't skyrocketed for N64, but they have been steadily increasing. Especially for CiB games. I think N64 is just getting started really though. Some of the Rare or uncommons have definitely started increasing. A CiB Worms Armageddon for example will easily cost you over $300 and pushing $400.
I think the downward trend most consoles experience after their lifespan skipped Gamecube keeping prices higher than past consoles at the same point in their life. Without the same dramatic downward trend tge upward spike is much more noticeable on GC.
Edit: I guess what I'm saying is N64 dropped much lower than GC did. That means you can still pick up most N64 games relatively cheap despite the steady increases. GC in comparison remained much higher making the increase more noticeable.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Left stick is slightly better, shoulder buttons are worse-ish. If you don't push them straight down they are hard to press and jam, but if you push them straight down they are fine. Personally I don't have a problem with them.
Otherwise they are practically the same, except with a longer cord.
This sounds right. GC games never cratered the way cartridges did in the early 2000's. SNES games, even the rarest of the rare, absolutely tanked and could be had for a pittance for a period of time. I think it coincides with the emerging trend of video game collecting for older consoles at about the time the Gamecube aged out. Lots of people just wised up and the vast majority didn't dump their collections for pennies at garage sales or donate them to Goodwill.
As it is, I've got just about everything that's good on the Gamecube (with a few excepions) so I'm set.
cool thanks
are the shoulder trigger issues related to the actual triggers themselves or the component on the PCB? Because if it's the former, I wonder if swapping them with an old launch GC pad's parts would do the trick. If it's the latter then..uh, I guess I could swap that over too.
DeuceGamer
Member
This sounds right. GC games never cratered the way cartridges did in the early 2000's. SNES games, even the rarest of the rare, absolutely tanked and could be had for a pittance for a period of time. I think it coincides with the emerging trend of video game collecting for older consoles at about the time the Gamecube aged out. Lots of people just wised up and the vast majority didn't dump their collections for pennies at garage sales or donate them to Goodwill.
As it is, I've got just about everything that's good on the Gamecube (with a few excepions) so I'm set.
Exactly! There were obviously deals but not nearly on the level of past systems.
Another factor, albeit small, is the fact that GC discs are much more finicky than normal CD/DVD discs. Repairing the GC discs with a resurfacing machine have a much lower success rate compared to other CD/DVD based media.
When you factor all the other reasons already discussed on top of this, it's led to GC games retaining more value during the traditional downward trend we've seen on most previous consoles. With more people collecting and aware of game values we may not see the downward trends as significantly as we did on some Retro systems. Especially on consoles with a focus on digital as that means even less Physical copies.
I continue to add to my GC collection but have most of the rare and expensive titles out of the way luckily.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
I've said this before but I remember buying and selling on eBay back in 2002 and people were selling a dozen new copies of Conker for $50 total. I remember getting one copy for $8. I can't believe the rate of return on that game.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Cost cutting measure. There were some metal pieces in the original controllers that made sure the trigger sent down straight that they removed. You can supposedly mod them in, or just switch the back of the new controller with one from an original I think. I also saw claims that there is a new revision that does have those metal things, but I haven't seen proof.
Edit: You can see the part missing in this picture, connecting the trigger to the base.
The Twin Snakes is going for $45-50 on ebay these days. Is this partially because of the imminent release of MGSV and all the crazy Konami/Kojima stuff in the news, and the prices can be expected to drop a little bit in a few months, or can one assume that the prices are going to stay steady or keep going up? Debating with myself whether or not to bite now or wait.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I think it has gradually gone up. I got it for $30 2-3 years ago and that was on the low end for it then.
dragonyeuw
Member
Makes me glad I stocked up on most of the GC games I wanted years ago, nor did I trade off most of my games like I've done for other systems only to regret it later. Still really want skies of arcadia and fire emblem POR, but I'd have to sell my kidney for those.
dragonyeuw
Member
I think Its been over $40 for some time now.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Huh... randomly checked Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance prices again and, at least on Amazon, used copies are $100 and new copies are $200. Which is like... crazy.
I can't believe how expensive this system has gotten.
(also kinda thinking about finally playing my copy of FE)
I can't believe how expensive this system has gotten.
(also kinda thinking about finally playing my copy of FE)
I know how bad the market has gotten first hand. Bought Gotcha Force at launch, managed to get my friends to buy it too, years later looked through my collection and it was missing (think someone stole it). Checked recently to replace it and now Gotcha Force goes for $150 used locally and $500 new.
DeuceGamer
Member
Yea, I have most the more expensive ones out of the way and glad as I expect they will only continue to rise. I just added Ikaruga finally and I have a couple others I'd like to get that are starting to get higher.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Also, what the goddamn fuck: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-O...EM-US-JAPAN-/131573689054?hash=item1ea2672ade
I know the price has been going up, but more than $500 for component cables with almost a day to go still? Shit's outta hand.
I'm glad I'm out of school now and can afford to keep buying the shit I want, but man... I can imagine retro gaming as a whole being precisely no fun for people who don't have a healthy amount of disposable income.
I know the price has been going up, but more than $500 for component cables with almost a day to go still? Shit's outta hand.
I'm glad I'm out of school now and can afford to keep buying the shit I want, but man... I can imagine retro gaming as a whole being precisely no fun for people who don't have a healthy amount of disposable income.
blast processed
Member
Well, it is brand new CIB which is pretty rare, but why would you pay for that? The whole point is to use the cables not stare at it on the shelf.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
You could say that about games too. There are people that will collect just about anything.
I need to get back to the states with the quickness to sell my damn comp cables. Lol
300-500 dahllas?! I'll sell you any goddamn cable you want. I dont care that its my last one. HDMI mod is iminent anyway. Lol
Shit, with that kind of money, I might be able to afford all the HDMI mods coming soon for various systems. DC, GCN, NES, N64... All i gotta do is sell a cable.
300-500 dahllas?! I'll sell you any goddamn cable you want. I dont care that its my last one. HDMI mod is iminent anyway. Lol
Shit, with that kind of money, I might be able to afford all the HDMI mods coming soon for various systems. DC, GCN, NES, N64... All i gotta do is sell a cable.
sixteen-bit
Member
Gotcha Force rocks. Shame it's so pricey. I'd recommend it to everyone otherwise.
NormalFish
Banned
I'm thinking people trying to win that auction are thinking of reselling in 5 years, rather than actually holding on to it. That said, doesn't seem like a good investment given a clone cable or good HDMI alternative is on the horizon.
I sure hope this is true.
NormalFish
Banned
I have very little doubt we'll have something in the next year or so. Might be a bit expensive initially, but with another 6 months or so I think the current projects will be at a good spot.
Though... keep in mind I'm not the savviest individual when it comes to this stuff. I'm just judging by the impressions and results of people with the know-how.
A Black Falcon
Member
Make no mistake, N64 prices absolutely have risen quickly over the past decade! Games like Worms Armageddon, Conker, Ogre Battle 64, etc. cost a LOT more now than they did ten years ago. There's been a lot of N64 price inflation, I've really noticed it. For a while in the mid '00s the N64 was a very cheap console to collect for. That has not been the case for some years now. There is still room for plenty of games to increase in price, I do agree there, but prices have risen significantly.
This I do agree with though, yes. The GC definitely didn't drop nearly as much as N64, it never did bottom out like N64 did after its life was over. Maybe the GC backwards compatibility in Wiis helped hold prices up? That did greatly increase the number of people who could play GC games!
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Eh, people tend to treat their stuff like shit. Regardless of what it is, why would you want something beat up and grimy? Nobody wants a jizzy component cable.
Anyway, tonight's either going to be Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance or Metroid Prime 2. Never played PoR, haven't played MP2 in 8 years. Decisions...
sixteen-bit
Member
When you guys are game hunting, how you ever came across Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance?
i got mine at a gamestop like 10 years ago
really fun game in multiplayer
shanafan
Member
Yeah, I'm very intrigued that this title was on the GameCube. Don't see many isometric dungeon crawlers on the GameCube AFAIK
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
Is Rouge Leader considered better than Rebel Strike? I've been playing both again after years of not playing and Rebel Strike feels the best. If not for the on foot missions it'd be the absolute best.
I don't know, maybe I've just been spoiled but it's hard to play them, I'm so used to modern aircraft controls like in Ace Combat and Battlefield. Having completely control over the pitch, roll, and yaw.
I don't know, maybe I've just been spoiled but it's hard to play them, I'm so used to modern aircraft controls like in Ace Combat and Battlefield. Having completely control over the pitch, roll, and yaw.
DeuceGamer
Member
I agree they have risen, but it's been a more steady increase compared to SNES which exploded, IMO. The person I replied to was saying the high prices skipped N64 and I was saying it had been a steady increase even posting the proof with the Price Charting graph. I still think N64 is poised for a bigger increase like SNES has experienced over the last few years.
Any way, GC was different, IMO. The prices didn't bottom out so there wasn't as much ground to make up as N64 had. That means smaller increases seem more noticeable where N64 has experienced steady increases for a couple years with some not really noticing it.
A Black Falcon
Member
I'm just saying, whether it's a smooth increase or jumping up at points doesn't matter so much to me as the end result does, comparing ten years ago to now prices-wise. When you do that you see a HUGE difference in N64 prices, as you say. It's risen a lot. That is not true for all systems -- the original Xbox hasn't seen much of a price increase, for instance.
I started noticing the N64's price inflation several years back, when games like SSB suddenly weren't cheap anymore.
Generally most people say that Rogue Leader is the better game, yes. It was a launch title, first, and made a big impression because of its amazing graphics and simple but great gameplay; I got the game at launch, and was really impressed. Compared to that Rebel Strike does have better graphics than RL does, but it released a few years later so people weren't as impressed compared to what existed at the time, I guess. Also of course there was the big backlash against the on-foot missions. I think that RL is a little better than RS, but RS is a lot better than most people give it credit for -- it is a great game, no question. I like all of the missions except for the on-foot parts, just like ho, and those are just overly simplistic, not actually terrible. The graphics are amazing too, maybe the best on the Gamecube -- RL looked like it pushed the system, and then RS is able to run that game, full detail, in splitscreen! Just amazing. Stuff like the Endor levels also look incredible.
Factor 5's flight model is very simplistic, but it's good for the game because the game is designed around that; with more complex flight modeling, meeting the very difficult mission objectives (if you want to get gold medals particularly) would be absurdly difficult!
Is it? That's one of maybe 3-4 games I still need in my GameCube exclusives collection but I've held off due to price. If it's as good as you say then maybe I'll put it back on my radar.
DeuceGamer
Member
Agreed. Unfortunately I fear more of the same with prices only getting higher. I hope I'm wrong though.
Tight controls, good variety in playable characters, good multiplayer, good replayability, and most of all it's fun. It's honestly one of the better gamecube games if one can afford it.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I've been wondering about getting a second Cube for the HDMI mod. Wouldn't want to do it myself though, and I have no idea how much that will end up costing.
Wonder if it would allow for lagless Melee on an HD set though.
Wonder if it would allow for lagless Melee on an HD set though.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I want to say I looked into picking up a copy 3-4 years ago to replace the one I sold back in the day and it was going for about that much. Man some of my biggest gaming regrets are getting rid of some old GC games. I hung on to the system and most of the games but unloaded stuff like Skies of Arcadia, Metal Gear, Eternal Darkness, TimeSplitters 2, 1080 and FZero GX that i've had the itch to replay over the years but couldn't. One day I'll build my collection back up.
I agree with this, Rebel Strike was really good IMO, while Rogue Leader was better I still really enjoyed Rebel Strike a lot.
A Black Falcon
Member
One thing I didn't mention is that some people dislike the ground-vehicle missions -- AT-STs, speeder bikes, etc -- that both RS and Battle for Naboo for N64 have quite a few of, but Rogue Squadron and Rogue Leader don't have. I never agreed with that criticism, and think ground vehicle missions are plenty good stuff. I like BfN more than RS on the N64, and while I do like RL more than RS, some of that might be nostalgia...
For one other criticism of RS other than the on-foot missions, though, the two player limit in multiplayer is really disappointing. I understand it for the co-op, sure, but the versus modes REALLY needed four player splitscreen support. With 4-player splitscreen it'd probably have been the best flight combat game of the generation, but limited to only two players, it's got nothing on Crimson Skies for Xbox's great four-player dogfights.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, for some reason, My GC collection is the one I gutted the most back in high school and college when I needed some money. And naturally, it's the one where I've wanted to rebuy pretty much every game I've sold.
GustyGardens
Banned
I found my copy at a police auction a little over a year ago. I bought it with a Gamecube and a few other games for $80. Such a great bargain!
This is idiotic since Japanese boxes are never sealed. Literally no way to tell if it's been opened or note. The tape on that unit was added by someone at some point (could have been the store it was sold at).
Amazon prices are like Buy It Now prices on eBay. They don't mean anything other than the ridiculous amounts sellers want. You have to check the "Sold" prices on eBay to get an idea of what things really go for and even that's a national market. Your local market will vary.
dragonyeuw
Member
Man thats some great stuff you got rid of. What did you end up keeping, and why did you get rid of those games above?
I was thinking about xbox when I made an earlier post about pricing. The xbox barely outsold the GC so similarly there shouldnt be tons of game copies available like it would be for ps2, but asides from a few titles xbox games are still really cheap.
When I said high prices seemed to skip n64, I should have clarified that I was more referring to average prices for the more common, non first party stuff. Mario 64 is common as hell, but still goes for a fair bit, the zelda titles, conker, paper mario, mario kart, smash bros etc are all pricey. With the snes, even a lot of common third party titles are pretty pricey. I was shocked recently to see the adventures of batman and robin's price. I just dont think many n64 titles will see the same spikes as their snes counterparts. The snes is more popular in general, and alot of n64 stuff hasnt aged too well. There will be some kind of spike, but I dont personally think to the same extent.
I think the Wii full BC definitely helps, as well as the Nintendo tax, Nintendo games in general will always be the creme de la creme as far as game collecting goes. And really, GC has really held up well, especially if you can play over component or via dolphin. I just popped in fzero gx the other day and had as much fun as any new game Ive played recently.
Because GC was overlooked in its era, with retro now popular its library is being explored and people are finally seeing whoa, GC had some damn good shit back in the day. But, since there's not tons of copies, supply/demand will drive prices upward. Though as has been said already, gamecube never bottomed out. I recall years ago looking at prices on amazon, for multiplats the GC version was always much higher than the ps2/xbox versions.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I guess I figured I wasn't gonna replay them. The worst part is I sold them to GameStop so i got ripped off on top of it. I was a GC only gamer at first but I eventually picked up a PS2 so I think I sold them to get some PS2 games. I kept mostly Nintendo first party stuff on principle. Still have Pikmin, Mario Sunshine, Mario Kart, Wind Waker, the two Zelda bonus discs, PSO and a few others I'm forgetting.
dragonyeuw
Member
Oh man, that sucks. Well, I'm no better lol, I unloaded a bunch of snes carts at gamestop in the early 2000's. Nothing crazy like earthbound, but still some decent stuff like contra III, donkey kong country, mario kart. Fortunately I managed to get back most of what I foolishly traded away a few years later before the retro bug hit.
I'm surprised no one has come up with a way to tap into that untouched GCN component cable market. Hell, even if they came up with some sort of $100 alternative they could still make some quick bank couldn't they?
Then again if it was possible someone probably would have done it...
Then again if it was possible someone probably would have done it...