Dehumanizing? You are really reaching on those points. My point has nothing to do with the personal details of the account user, my point is the credibility of what's being posted and the extent of the information. Hardware rumors? Okay makes sense. What developers inside Nintendo are doing? No. Doesn't make sense. The two realms of information aren't mutually exclusive by any means. Almost quite the opposite.
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Dehumanizing? You are really reaching on those points. My point has nothing to do with the personal details of the account user, my point is the credibility of what's being posted and the extent of the information. Hardware rumors? Okay makes sense. What developers inside Nintendo are doing? No. Doesn't make sense. The two realms of information aren't mutually exclusive by any means. Almost quite the opposite.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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There is voiceacting in the game--it's at the very start, and apparently at other important moments.
Dark Cloud
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I'm pretty sure she said you could choose a female character. She never said Link could also be female. I might be wrong on that though.
DerekOfTheDykes
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I thought she claimed full voice acting? I might be misremembering that, to be fair.
Definitely claimed you could be a female character though
NinjaCoachZ
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She said "voices for NPCs and not Link" and "you can play as a female character".
Aonuma mentioned they considered the option of a female character but rejected it. She admitted to taking the l on that but was also upfront from the beginning that these were only rumours. I don't think we fully know how much VO there is in the game, but there definitely was some in that trailer.
Skittzo0413
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I think her exact wording was "play as a male or female character" rather than explicitly saying female Link. Which, to be fair, hasn't been exactly proven wrong yet. But could have been bad info from a source who saw those E3 lanyards or something. Edit: Others have answered this above.
Anyway, it sure seems like something is happening this week, and I'm happy just assuming it will be the announcement of a reveal date. I'll set the bar even lower and assume it'll be in a PDF. Nowhere to go but up, right?
TLZ
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Oh the irony.
"Voice acting for most characters except Link"
Dark Cloud
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No she didn't. If you're going to accuse her of things then try to get the facts straight please
https://mobile.twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/718451535135383553
Rumor #1: Yes, Zelda is coming to both Wii U and NX. I confirmed it with a ton of people. You can choose which one to get. Or get both.
Apr 8
Emily Rogers‏ @ArcadeGirl64
Rumor #2: I heard from multiple sources that you can choose between a male or female as your playable character in Zelda.
Apr 8
Emily Rogers‏ @ArcadeGirl64
Rumor #3: There is voice acting for most of the characters...except Link.
She said choose between a male or female playable character. She never said Link would be female. And she said "most" characters would have voice acting except Link.
ultrazilla
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Does anyone know if Nintendo has always followed Rockstar on Twitter? I really never paid attention/noticed until my brother pointed it out to me. He thinks Nintendo has finally gotten Rockstar/Take 2 on board with NX and won't be surprised to see Red Dead announced for it.
It is kinda weird that Rockstar is teasing Red Dead and we've heard rumors that Nintendo is apparently going to unveil NX shortly as well.
Huh? What's this about? A possible reveal?
It is kinda weird that Rockstar is teasing Red Dead and we've heard rumors that Nintendo is apparently going to unveil NX shortly as well.
I'M ALL IN BABY! RED DEAD ON NINTENDO NX WOOT!!!! p.s. let me dream
Huh? What's this about? A possible reveal?
You think anyone in the outside world was privy to that discussion? This is Nintendo. People in the same building don't know what teams are developing between different floors and quadrants of the same building. Let alone a private conversation.That's how the company operates.
Of all the crazy ass NX speculation, Red Dead on NX would take the cake.
-Mutsukki-
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source...?
You can't play that card to prove her right. She's very clearly wrong here. Them considering at some point during development, should not somehow turn into "playable female character from multiple sources" a month before reveal.
netgrimoire
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The Xbox One not having Street Fighter V is a blessing.
Like, they should put that as a box quote on the consoles packaging.
DerekOfTheDykes
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Fair enough dude, I did say I could be remembering things incorrectly, no need to knot your boxers up.
crooked spin
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if this is your standard for being "right" Emily will never be wrong. fuckin' LOL.
Jim_Cacher
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To be fair, there's always a chance. Bully was on Wii, so if Rockstar is confident with NX, and if NX is totally compatible with PS4/XB1 spec wise, they will put RDR3 on it.
A dozen Nintendo interviews. One example being the Mii Channel interview from Iwata Asks. Also Shigesato Itoi's interview with Sakamoto on Miitomo.
ShockingAlberto
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Not actually. I know people at NOA who were asked by people like Aonuma and Sakurai what reaction is to characters or other decisions.
Miyamoto doesn't seek much outside counsel, but that's Miyamoto.
Wild. Could you imagine if it was announced as an NX exclusive during the reveal a'la Bayonetta 2? GAF may never return from the ashes.
Not gonna happen
Dark Cloud
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Sorry if I came off aggressive.
Zeyphersan
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The NX Prediction Thread: where everything's made up and the specs don't matter
Skittzo0413
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There's a huge difference between saying her info was wrong and saying she is making up info for attention (which some people here seem to be doing).
Insiders will never get things 100% right. That's the nature of the game, having anonymous sources and such. People overreact when insiders get things wrong and don't actually weigh those against all the times they get things right. And then they get upset and assume everything they say is fake.
Obviously you shouldn't believe everything an insider says, but denying that there is more weight behind the claims of people who have gotten plenty of things right in the past is just foolish. The world isn't black and white- some rumors can have more legitimacy than others.
This is getting pretty off track from this thread BTW...
Where did she say that? I don't believe an NCL employee would leak anything to a Westerner for one second. They have very strict disclosure agreements.
Maybe if it weren't for the fact that for almost everything she has been accused of being wrong about there is evidence that it was at the very least discussed interally. Which means she was right at the time.
DerekOfTheDykes
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It's all good man, no beef.
I'm tossing out posts on mobile during breaks in the news here at work, so I'm not exactly doing the deep double-checking I normally prefer to do.
orthodoxy1095
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Seems like the best of the press aren't relying on things that were "internally discussed" as their proof.
-Mutsukki-
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That's why it's a leak and not a official announcement. It's weird how you accuse Emily of maybe not knowing these people, but you keep acting like you actually work there and know all the inner machinations
They do if what they heard sounded like a confirmation at the time. Let me give you an example.
Let's say you know someone who works at a company and they tell you that a product is launching at a certain time frame and shows you proof of it. If it later gets delayed is that person no longer credible?
CharminUltra
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Beyond Red and Good Dead Evil: Redemption 2, NX exclusive
-Mutsukki-
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I mean, I don't 100% trust Emily either and I think she's playing super safe saying that there'll be news next week (she does say this week too, but if there aren't any she'll be excused if there's some next week).
But, most people maybe don't realize that early ideas like that do end up in GDDs sometimes. Remember Smash leak with Chrom and Chorus Kid? None of that was actually bullshit, as we found out digging the files.
orthodoxy1095
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No, but clearly the problem there stems from relaying out of date info.
I'm not really sure if that's good journalistic practice or useful to consumers. I guess it's interesting from a super enthusiast perspective of "oh that company talked about X being in their product at some point in the past."
Astral Dog
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Hehe
People don't think she's making things up, she just has unreliable sources and shouldn't be trusted.
Steve Youngblood
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It is patently absurd given the timing of when that rumor was stated that we would even remotely count this as something she got right.
I really don't understand the controversy here. I personally have no problem believing that Emily converses with people who are in the know sometimes and is privy to some information the general public is not. I also have no problem stating that I don't think that she's a proper journalist who properly vets sources or conveys a degree of confidence to readers.
I don't think breaking stories is necessarily easy. There are lots of people out there that just want info. Any info is good. It doesn't necessarily need to pan out. We're starved for any information and as long as it appears to come from inside we want it. Whether it's from an executive sharing information only on condition of anonymity or a janitor that overheard someone who overheard something, if it's juicy dirt, someone out there wants to know what it is. But to be respected as a trustworthy source, you have to be able to properly contextualize this information. In general terms, why do you know this? How confident are you in this story? How did you try to verify the legitimacy of this news? As readers, it would be ideal if we had some insight into the process here in terms of how you arrived at reporting Rumor A, Rumor B, and Rumor C. Again, I'm not advocating throwing sources under the bus. But just something that indicates you aren't parroting anything you hear from different sources would be great.
Smash Bros. leaks hit the fan when it was already well into development. Between debuggers and the 10+ companies that assisted in the development, it was a hard game to hold in secrecy by that point.
I treat most rumors with a grain of salt. But my main point of criticism is that the range of rumors go all over the place. It it was hardware specific, a marketing leak, a localization leak. Fine. All three of them? Red flag don't you think? Then you throw in internal discussions and internal prototypes from the watertight Kyoto office? That's unprecedented.
Rogers is obviously in cohorts with a group of editors. Including several posters here. So there's likely some traffic of plausible rumors. Mostly likely some of the hardware talk. But either someone is feeding a spoon of bs on the side, or there is some over exuberance to be a source of light on more information than there actually is. In reference to all the stuff from Nintendo of Japan.
But maybe a lot of her rumors or speculation will turn out right. It's all quite possible because none of this stuff is outlandish.
DownGrader
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Man, some people do not even hold Emily as a human being, let alone creditable insider. I don't care what you think about her reputation or track record, calling her "an Internet doodad" and/or "just an account" is just plain mean.
Spyder_Monkey
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What really bugs me about this is some people's insistence that Emily Rogers is wrong and therefore must be taken down.
DerekOfTheDykes
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I tend to fall more on the side of trusting Emily than not, but even if the info of a female playable character was just outdated and not made up (I believe the former, honestly), it definitely looks bad that she verified that outdated claim with multiple sources just before reveal and still ended up being wrong (barring some insane reveal).
If Emily was incorrect about that feature she claimed would be in the game, it DOES unfortunately open up questions about how outdated any other info from her might be. And we STILL don't know what's up with that Mother 3 claim, do we?
But everyone can get unlucky. Hence, I wouldn't dismiss Emily as just a "random Twitter person", but I wouldn't take her word as gospel either.
Edit: Alright GAF somebody else has to get the first post on the next page, this is getting weird.
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