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Tekkie said:
There's one way it wouldn't be doomed to fail in some of these scenarios though: Be a phone.

If it's also a phone: Charge out the ass for it, people will buy it, casuals and core alike. Detachable controllers make sense. A lower end experience without the dock would suddenly be acceptable.
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Yeah sure.
 
Jawbreaker said:
I mean, a lot of Nintendo diehards would probably pay $500 for the thing, but realistically, Nintendo hardware — especially if it's primarily a handheld — at $350 is essentially DOA.
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This, and I'd go so far as to say this might be the case even at $299. They need to hit $250 or lower for mass market penetration regardless of what I'd personally be willing to pay.
 
I can't imagine Nintendo not making this a compelling piece of hardware. They HAVE to know it's do or die for their hardware business at this point.
 
Serenitynow said:
Pretend there are only two scenarios:
$300: Moderately more powerful but moderately more expensive
$250: Moderately less powerful but moderately more inexpensive

There are people who expect around XBONE in power at $250 and when it's not that they are going to cry DOA

Edit: Just so I don't lose the original point, the poster I was replying to said DOA at $300. However I believe $300 would be fair for what most of us are expecting. I agree $350 is pushing it unless it's a bundle.
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It's launching six years after 3DS and close to four and a half years after Wii U, in a market where mobile gaming is even more entrenched than it was in 2011 or 2012. I think the mass market will be less lenient judges than you are.
 
Vinc said:
I can't imagine Nintendo not making this a compelling piece of hardware. They HAVE to know it's do or die for their hardware business at this point.
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Maybe they're not revealing it because they're constantly changing the design, trying to improve upon it, to the point where it will never be ready and the reveal will forever be coming SOON.
 
Are all of these pricing expectation posts based on hopes and dreams, or are they based on the level of technology we are expecting the NX to harbor?
 
10 years since NX info. I try to walk through the empty streets but my path always leads to gaf. I stare at the screen for hours and try to summon Miyamoto but it is no good. I flame Emily on her twitter and try to resist the hybrid rumors but it is all meaningless. The end is near. I then read some old 10k rumors and cry myself to sleep.
 
Eliseo said:
So now we are in the Nintendo it's doomed cycle? lol
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Well, I mean, it's a rumored price for rumored hardware. It's silly to suggest doom and gloom based on that premise. But I won't lie. Assuming the hardware is what we think it is and costs $350, my kneejerk reaction was basically "LOL Nintendo."
 
Shiggy said:
People won't buy a Nintendo phone, they want to have some competent OS. There's a reason why Microsoft failed, and I doubt that Nintendo would fare much better.
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I definitely think they would, if just by the sheer power of their software. The value proposition Nintendo would make, is different than the one Microsoft made. I think way more people would get on board with that than another dedicated handheld (with or without dock).
 
Tekkie said:
I definitely think they would, if just by the sheer power of their software. The value proposition Nintendo would make, is different than the one Microsoft made. I think way more people would get on board with that than another dedicated handheld (with or without dock).
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The phone market consists of some of the most shark-infested waters out there and Nintendo is not uniquely qualified to innovate there at all. There is absolutely no way that they would consider making a phone.
 
My friend just texted me saying Nintendo's twitter announced the direct!

Is he trolling me? I'm looking everywhere but I don't see it. What's the official Nintendo tweet?
 
egruntz said:
My friend just texted me saying Nintendo's twitter announced the direct!

Is he trolling me? I'm looking everywhere but I don't see it. What's the official Nintendo tweet?
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Your friend is from the future, ask him about the next Metroid game.
 
The original Wii was $249 and sold tremendously. Wii U launched at $349 and was a complete and utter failure from a sales perspective. Nintendo is trying to re-capture the success of the original Wii and I am certain they will match the $249 price point or come in lower with NX. Paying more than $249 for a portable gaming system in 2017 that doesn't do much of anything else but video games simply won't fly with consumers.

The only scenario I can see Nintendo having where NX costs more than $249 is if they have a "hybrid bundle system" that includes a dock and controller to make it a traditional console as well. If they did this, I still think they would offer the standalone handheld at $249 or below and this would be the main seller. The more expensive "hybrid bundle" would be targeted more to the core gamers and Nintendo die-hards and wouldn't sell as much as the standalone but would have a better margin.

So essentially its $249 or bust.......I just can't see it being successful at more than that...
 
There's no way in hell this thing is about to cost $349. Nintendo would be out of their minds if true. The reveal can't come soon enough.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
The phone market consists of some of the most shark-infested waters out there and Nintendo is not uniquely qualified to innovate there at all. There is absolutely no way that they would consider making a phone.
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I'm not saying they would, but I was offering an option where some of the scenarios the other poster mentioned, wouldn't mean Nintendoomed automatically.

Regardless though, as shark-infested as it might be, I also think it's one of the very, very few options you have to gain access to "casuals" again.
 
Trago said:
There's no way in hell this thing is about to cost $349. Nintendo would be out of their minds if true. The reveal can't come soon enough.
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Even after the reveal, we probably won't get the price. That's not a first reveal item. Price, exact date, and dates for software are all things that will likely wait until January.
 
Trago said:
There's no way in hell this thing is about to cost $349. Nintendo would be out of their minds if true. The reveal can't come soon enough.
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I would be totally okay with it being $349 if the console side was solid and up there with the PS4. If it can play those kinds of game and do the same thing on the go, I'd put value into that and I think others would, too. If it's just a little better than the Wii U connected to the TV, then yeah....$349 would be a bad price.
 
ThaBruce said:
The original Wii was $249 and sold tremendously. Wii U launched at $349 and was a complete and utter failure from a sales perspective. Nintendo is trying to re-capture the success of the original Wii and I am certain they will match the $249 price point or come in lower with NX. Paying more than $249 for a portable gaming system in 2017 that doesn't do much of anything else but video games simply won't fly with consumers.

The only scenario I can see Nintendo having where NX costs more than $249 is if they have a "hybrid bundle system" that includes a dock and controller to make it a traditional console as well. If they did this, I still think they would offer the standalone handheld at $249 or below and this would be the main seller. The more expensive "hybrid bundle" would be targeted more to the core gamers and Nintendo die-hards and wouldn't sell as much as the standalone but would have a better margin.

So essentially its $249 or bust.......I just can't see it being successful at more than that...
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Or, maybe, just maybe, it's a lot more console than handheld?
 
I think there might be two NX to choose from. A $199 version that is just the handheld/controller and a $299 version that includes everything plus the dock.
 
What it brings to the table determines how acceptable the price is. There is no line where it goes from success to fail just based on price. 3DS compared poorly spec wise to the Vita and it launched with absolute trash and it had trash in its immediate future. 3D never caught on how the entertainment industry expected as well.

Wii U was a design that came too late and what it offered did not make a compelling offer.

if NX can live up to what Nintendo is apparently going for then it could be a big success.
 
antonz said:
What it brings to the table determines how acceptable the price is. There is no line where it goes from success to fail just based on price. 3DS compared poorly spec wise to the Vita and it launched with absolute trash and it had trash in its immediate future. 3D never caught on how the entertainment industry expected as well.

Wii U was a design that came too late and what it offered did not make a compelling offer.

if NX can live up to what Nintendo is apparently going for then it could be a big success.
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I agree. It is about value not price.
 
ThaBruce said:
The original Wii was $249 and sold tremendously. Wii U launched at $349 and was a complete and utter failure from a sales perspective. Nintendo is trying to re-capture the success of the original Wii and I am certain they will match the $249 price point or come in lower with NX. Paying more than $249 for a portable gaming system in 2017 that doesn't do much of anything else but video games simply won't fly with consumers.

The only scenario I can see Nintendo having where NX costs more than $249 is if they have a "hybrid bundle system" that includes a dock and controller to make it a traditional console as well. If they did this, I still think they would offer the standalone handheld at $249 or below and this would be the main seller. The more expensive "hybrid bundle" would be targeted more to the core gamers and Nintendo die-hards and wouldn't sell as much as the standalone but would have a better margin.

So essentially its $249 or bust.......I just can't see it being successful at more than that...
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An interesting thing to remember about the Wii's $249 price was that it included a pack in game, arguably the flagship launch title. N64 and GameCube at $199 had no game included, for comparison.
 
RavageDark said:
Or, maybe, just maybe, it's a lot more console than handheld?
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Lets remember that 3DS launched at $249 and there were massive sales problems so Nintendo cut the price drastically less than a year from the launch to under $200 in N.A.

So again, assuming this device has console like capabilities - $249 is the highest they go. If the NX were strictly a handheld - I would say $199 is the highest they go.

I am betting all my chips that Nintendo has learned from their pricing mistakes with 3DS and Wii U and won't make the same mistakes with NX......because this time I don't think there will be any more 2nd chances for Nintendo.
 
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