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The Official Burnout Paradise Thread. Restarting Events Patch!
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Christoff Yurievich
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welp, you changed my mind.web01 said:
AlphaTwo00
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600 points? Sold. Double sold.
Not like I wasn't sold on it before.
Not like I wasn't sold on it before.
plagiarize
Banned
i saw someone saying PC owners have to wait a month for the DLC. is there a story or a specific date saying when we can hope to get it?
$8 is pretty much nothing to me. i appreciate that's different for everyone and that what i think is affordable isn't what you think is affordable, but i am pretty upset that a years worth of free stuff is now considered pretty much moot.
you don't have to buy this, but i don't see how Criterion charging more than some people can justify spending for a few extra cars invalidates all the work they did giving you all that free stuff.
$8 is pretty much nothing to me. i appreciate that's different for everyone and that what i think is affordable isn't what you think is affordable, but i am pretty upset that a years worth of free stuff is now considered pretty much moot.
you don't have to buy this, but i don't see how Criterion charging more than some people can justify spending for a few extra cars invalidates all the work they did giving you all that free stuff.
UpperCaseN
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I picked this up at CC for $16 with their liquidation deals, awesome awesome awesome game! I'm just about done with my C license and hoping it gets more difficult; so far I haven't really struggled on any event and am usually in 1st place the entire time. I favor the Aggression type cars and have no interest in trying the bikes cuz I figure you won't be able to takedown any opponents.
Since I'm really loving the game and only paid $16 for it, I don't mind paying the $8 for these Legendary cars or for the Island. When are these due, anyway?
Is the game glitchy at all? It froze on me once during an event and I had to hard boot my 360.
Since I'm really loving the game and only paid $16 for it, I don't mind paying the $8 for these Legendary cars or for the Island. When are these due, anyway?
Is the game glitchy at all? It froze on me once during an event and I had to hard boot my 360.
AlphaTwo00
Member
Cars: This Thursday.Gryphter said:
Glitchy? Given how the game is, no. The only rare one that I've ran into is when you finish a burning route, and it rewards you with a car, and it never bails out of it. (happened to both 360 and PSN version)
I think the problem here with the "you don't have to buy it" defence is what BP fans want to buy it, they don't mind paying, just not at these prices. For instance, if it was $2 a car and $6 for the set I'd have probably said nothing, but is double the price for the Delorean justified? Sure it had more work put into it than the other models (with the hover mode) but these are all modifications to existing cars as it is. Even if you are willing to buy these, surely you must agree charging more for the Delorean "just because you can" stinks a bit.
These movie cars are unlicensed homages/knock-offs of other companies ideas that EA are profiting from without subsidy (making profit off the work of others that made these cars famous to begin with). If this business model proves successful, then I fully expect $3 a car in any inevitable sequels. The fans have to complain rather than bend over and take it up the rear, to stop the escalation of such practices (in before "perceived value" claims).
If 4 cars cost $8, the idea that the island will go for anything less than $15 seems like a pipe dream now. As others have pointed out, that's the price (or more) of a fully fledged PSN game. Don't get me wrong I love BP, but buying all the DLC is looking like a $60 affair. I'm not angry with this business model, just disappointed.
These movie cars are unlicensed homages/knock-offs of other companies ideas that EA are profiting from without subsidy (making profit off the work of others that made these cars famous to begin with). If this business model proves successful, then I fully expect $3 a car in any inevitable sequels. The fans have to complain rather than bend over and take it up the rear, to stop the escalation of such practices (in before "perceived value" claims).
If 4 cars cost $8, the idea that the island will go for anything less than $15 seems like a pipe dream now. As others have pointed out, that's the price (or more) of a fully fledged PSN game. Don't get me wrong I love BP, but buying all the DLC is looking like a $60 affair. I'm not angry with this business model, just disappointed.
UpperCaseN
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cool, thanks alphatwo. I'm not sure if I want to buy the legendary cars while I'm still early in the game, I don't want them to make all the other cars useless. I can't wait to fire up Ecto 1 though, so we'll see.
It's pretty easy to miss a turn and lose the race just because you're on the wrong road. The restart option is really nice and I can see why everyone was pissed before they put it in. I know that I wouldn't have even bothered to go back to the starting point manually; I would have just driven to a different event.
Is there a check rearview button? I know you can move the camera with the right analog, but what if I just want to check behind me real quick? The only button I didn't try is press in on the right analog.
It's pretty easy to miss a turn and lose the race just because you're on the wrong road. The restart option is really nice and I can see why everyone was pissed before they put it in. I know that I wouldn't have even bothered to go back to the starting point manually; I would have just driven to a different event.
Is there a check rearview button? I know you can move the camera with the right analog, but what if I just want to check behind me real quick? The only button I didn't try is press in on the right analog.
AlphaTwo00
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LB/L1 is mapped to rear view.Gryphter said:
When I first started the game, I actually did more exploring and figured out which is the best route. The middle of the city still sometimes leaves me confused, and sometimes taking the blinker's advice may not be the best choice. But usually, the first batch of races aren't that punishing enough that if you missed one or two turns will put you too far back.
Ramenman said:
Yeah I did buy the party pack and it was a ripoff most of the people who brought it have said that. Doesnt even have half the options it should have. A very half assed effort at an add on.
Also the point about them being variations of existing cars is that they were very easy to make and remodel and that they should be a much cheaper price to refelect this. But maybe because your trying to be some EA defender you cant see that? I never said I didnt want them but they should be alot cheaper you are just being a smart ass asking questions like that.
To the rest of the people who quoted me that I cant be bothered addressing seriously grow up. Quote people all you want if it makes you feel like some type of internet genius by posting what you believe are witty responses. But it wont change the fact that the DLC is a ripoff no mater what way you look at it.
ie commments like this:
Mar_ said:
TheGreatDave
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jts said:
I like how when studios that are owned by EA do things we like, we thank the studios. When it's studios owned by EA doing bad things, we blame EA.
EA are probably the ones to thank for Burnout being supported this long anyway.
AlphaTwo00
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Yup. I still wonder how well the sales are, and how the hell can they afford keeping the staff around this long for seemingly just this one game. Sure, there are other games in the pipeline, but over one year with nothing new announced? This is a huge gamble from EA to keep this going as long as it has. I'm surprised that the island hasn't been quickly shuffled into the next Burnout, and the Bikes weren't thrown into a different game altogether.TheGreatDave said:
AmericanNinja
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I find nothing wrong with the price. Day 1 baby!
CrashTV 24 doesn't bring anything new, except for a suspicious balance between PS3 and Xbox 360 screentime/mentions :lol
HiccupTruck
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While I don't know the full extent of the testing and balancing that needs to be done for each new car introduced to the world of Burnout Paradise, but I'm assuming it's something rather substantial so that the new DLC doesn't break the game.
It's not like they're slapping together some high res models.
It's not like they're slapping together some high res models.
Ugh. People aren't attacking them because they're charging for DLC, they're attacking them because they're overcharging for DLC. $10 for a barebones mode, $8 for four cars (and if you only want the Delorean, that's $4 for one single car), etc.gamerecks said:
When Activision started selling DLC for Guitar Hero 2, you could only buy a 3-pack for $6.25 no purchasing individual songs, so if you wanted one you had to buy them all and everyone complained. When Guitar Hero 3 came along, people still complained. When Rock Band came along, the pricing model changed; $5.50 for a 3-pack, or $2 for an individual song. The complaining stopped. GH:WT adopted that model. No one bitches about DLC pricing nowadays.
My point is this: if the Party pack was $5, and the cars were, say, $1.50 a piece and $5 for all four, there would be no backlash, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I may still get the General Lee clone, but that's assuming there's the classic orange / Confederate flag color scheme and the horn is basically spot on to the original. And even still I'd think on it.
Using the Confederate flag and the original horn would put them is several kinds of trouble, so it will remain with the Mexican flag and a mysterious horn (La Cucaracha maybe?) in honor of a member of the BP community, but they said it was also available in orange.DuckRacer said:
EDIT: somebody on Operation Burnout was prompted to download a new update, bringing him to V1.70 and allowing him to see the Legendary Cars in the junkyard... Here's a picture of the P12 88 Special's stats:
Oh man, the mistakes in the Manhattan Spirit's copy are still there!
AlphaTwo00
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OH GOD OH GOD. You're going to drag TheGreatDave and M3wThr33 right back in!DuckRacer said:
Still from Operation Burnout, here's a look at the Toys pack... No comment on the bobblehead biker. The Hunter Citizen is in. Looks like they will be split in several packs!
And confirmation the the Dust Storm is packaged with Big Surf Island:
And confirmation the the Dust Storm is packaged with Big Surf Island:
crispyben said:Still from Operation Burnout, here's a look at the Toys pack... No comment on the bobblehead biker. The Hunter Citizen is in. Looks like they will be split in several packs!
And confirmation the the Dust Storm is packaged with Big Surf Island:
nice
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Enough about bitching about them charging for cars. I am buying them Thursday.
Yesterday I bought the download from PSN. I originally bought the disc for 360, but I after the latest RROD, I am really trying to avoid playing the 360 that much. Anyway, the game plays great and the ease of playing from the XMB is so nice.
The graphical updates are subtle, but definitely make a difference. Also, it seems that the driving is a bit more forgiving.
Yesterday I bought the download from PSN. I originally bought the disc for 360, but I after the latest RROD, I am really trying to avoid playing the 360 that much. Anyway, the game plays great and the ease of playing from the XMB is so nice.
The graphical updates are subtle, but definitely make a difference. Also, it seems that the driving is a bit more forgiving.
AlphaTwo00
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Woo. I called it on getting new bikes!crispyben said:Still from Operation Burnout, here's a look at the Toys pack... No comment on the bobblehead biker. The Hunter Citizen is in. Looks like they will be split in several packs!
And confirmation the the Dust Storm is packaged with Big Surf Island:
AlphaTwo00
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Little of column A, little of column B.crispyben said:
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/bf67204de932716c54aaf81df1ef2ed32e6b99eb.png
Nice, I think I completed everything on the Paradise Bikes side
Anyway, looks like the DLC's are coming to PC too, and I'm probably buying them. I only payed 15 ( 15 off the price because I had enough points at that store ) for the game which isn't much, so I have no problems with supporting the devs in exchange for some nice content like the new island.
Nice, I think I completed everything on the Paradise Bikes side
Anyway, looks like the DLC's are coming to PC too, and I'm probably buying them. I only payed 15 ( 15 off the price because I had enough points at that store ) for the game which isn't much, so I have no problems with supporting the devs in exchange for some nice content like the new island.
CrookedRain
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If you use the in-game browser to look at the news, there's an article about the legendary cars being released for PS3 this Thursday. They also state that date and price announcements for PC users are coming soon and that we can probably expect the DLC in a month.plagiarize said:
NullPointer
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Just double-dipped for the first time ever, and now I have Burnout Paradise on 360 and PS3.
I like having the no-disc, play-at-any-time accessibility of the PS3 version, but no matter what 1up and Criterion themselves say, I still think the 360 is the superior version. Easier custom playlist support (I stream from my laptop), better integration of news (hate the PS3 browser) and the graphics/performance are so similar I don't really notice the differences.
Been trying to get my 20x Boost Chain achievement/trophy and I'm starting to think its friggin impossible. But its gotten me to play the speed cars for once, and it almost feels like an entirely different burnout. Sweet Jesus I've sunk so many gleeful hours into this game and it always has more to offer. Criterion am gods.
Last bit: Love the retries. I used to think the game didn't need them, but now that I have them I use them and appreciate them. Takes the entire edge off of losing a race from taking one wrong shortcut. Also couldn't be easier to use.
I like having the no-disc, play-at-any-time accessibility of the PS3 version, but no matter what 1up and Criterion themselves say, I still think the 360 is the superior version. Easier custom playlist support (I stream from my laptop), better integration of news (hate the PS3 browser) and the graphics/performance are so similar I don't really notice the differences.
Been trying to get my 20x Boost Chain achievement/trophy and I'm starting to think its friggin impossible. But its gotten me to play the speed cars for once, and it almost feels like an entirely different burnout. Sweet Jesus I've sunk so many gleeful hours into this game and it always has more to offer. Criterion am gods.
Last bit: Love the retries. I used to think the game didn't need them, but now that I have them I use them and appreciate them. Takes the entire edge off of losing a race from taking one wrong shortcut. Also couldn't be easier to use.
plagiarize
Banned
thank you.CrookedRain said:
MrTroubleMaker
Member
I haven't hear anything either, I think the DeLorean is the only "flying" vehicle we will get, to bad I wanted the planes too.Doodis said:
ZootedGranny
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NullPointer said:
Grab an entry model Speed car, start a stunt run and drive against traffic on I-88.
MrTroubleMaker
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thanks! I was having a problem with that too.ZootedGranny said:
Gryphter said:
It's a pretty easy game. This was my concern with the introduction of retry, as well as the complaints about the slo-mo crash penalty. With retry gone, the game is even easier. If they take out the slo-mo crash, you basically have no difficulty in the game at all and can only lose if you crash 5 metres before the finish line.
It does get harder right near the end though. When you've got about 10 to 20 events to go the difficulty does ramp up quite a bit. Traffic will start to veer toward you. And AI cars will spawn in all around you during Marked Man etc. But it still never gets hard. It's a very easy going game.
Gryphter said:
No, not glitchy. You must have run into a random issue. In 400 hours the only freezing problems I had were back in the old days when you'd try and start an online game and the servers were down, causing the game to hang. They fixed that in a patch though.
crispyben said:
Can someone explain to me what these toy cars are? I'm at a total loss.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Mar_ said:
I can understand needing to buy an expansion area of a game for new trophies (sometimes), but you need to buy new cars to get trophies? The whole concept sucks. I love Burnout and want to complete it 100%, but not if I have to buy addons to get token trophies that require no skill.