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The Official Camera Equipment Megathread
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why not the 5Dmk2 though, honestly? its not like this body is obsolete, it is still a tremendous camera.
not sure why/how most of you guys are expecting a cheap FF camera...how does it profit the manufacturers at all...it will cannibalize their body sales.
Aruarian Reflection
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Yeah there's no way I'm upgrading from my 5DMkII at that price. I would much rather get glass anyway.
There is a huge market for a cheap FF body that has almost no AF function and zero video feature. But either Nikon and Canon want to build and sell it for under 2000, becasue they know people who buy them won't buy many new AF lens.
right, but you've explained why they won't do it, they wont make money on the body, or lenses. and it might be cost prohibitive to design a FF body just for this market and sell it. it's not just the making cost. the production overhead: changing their plant assembly lines, R&D...these things add a lot of overhead. i'm not even sure they have the capability to sell this magic FF camera under 2 grand.
Silent mode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0xVAVsXxfI
Should be popular with wedding photogs and photojournalists.
Should be popular with wedding photogs and photojournalists.
Pretty much. It's a very interesting photographer toy, but not very useful.
mclaren777
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They don't have any software that supports 5D3 RAW images yet.
Heh? Just take out the AF in 5D3 and stuff in the one in 600D. What R&D? Thats nonsense. Why wouldn't they be able to sell the body under 2K if Canon is already selling the 5D2 under 2K?
Anyway they don't want to do it somebody else that have access to fabbing capacity will do it eventually. Look at the XP1, and the Nokia 808.
The vertical sub dial for one. On a nikon I can use my middle finger and change stuff, the canon dial forces you to move your finger off the shutter. Then there are all the small buttons next to it, which have dual uses seemingly not related to each other at all!
The rear jog wheel is too low, and the little joystick nub is a pain to use.
IDK it's just a weird scheme to me. I am sure if I shoot it more I would get used to it/adapt but every time I pick up the 7D I just go uggg why??!?!
The dial next to the shutter release I can understand, but the rear wheel and joystick are my favorite parts of the eos line! Speaking madness to me. So quick to switch my af points or review photos with them.
Having the four buttons next to the top LCD allows one handed operation! I tried Nikon and I couldn't take all the deep menus that required scrolling down. Preferences I guess.
They combined the joystick and rear wheel actually in the 60D and it's my biggest peeve about it. Switching AF points on the 30/40/50D series used to be so quick with that joystick. Now I have to fumble my thumb down to the wheel. It's kind of why I'm wanting to switch to either the 5D or 7D.
you really think that's all it entails, just slap an existing AF system to a FF sensor (how much is the new FF sensor cost anyway, or are you suggesting using the original 5D sensor?), this is embedded software engineering, they will have to rewrite algorithms and recalibrate the system. its not just gluing pieces of semiconductor together, i dont think so, as an engineer.
mclaren777
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The 5D3 features that I'm most excited about...
Customizable AF points
Silent shutter mode
DIGIC 5+ processor
Min/Max ISO settings
Minimum shutter speed
Comparison mode
Dual card slots
Tracking presets
Customizable AF points
Silent shutter mode
DIGIC 5+ processor
Min/Max ISO settings
Minimum shutter speed
Comparison mode
Dual card slots
Tracking presets
mclaren777
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5DII is said to be getting a price cut AND it's already sub-$2K.
Yea... don't get people bitching about wanting a cheap FF. It's here now. The 5DII is a monster, just because there's a shiny new version out doesn't change that.
edit: WAIT, it's not sub $2k now, but I'm assuming it will be with the cut.
Yea... don't get people bitching about wanting a cheap FF. It's here now. The 5DII is a monster, just because there's a shiny new version out doesn't change that.
edit: WAIT, it's not sub $2k now, but I'm assuming it will be with the cut.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
It was at $1999 during December, I think it'll be cut to this pricepoint. I agree that one can't expect a cheap modern FF camera. Only Sony attempted this with the A850 but it seems to be the industries intention to keep modern FF cameras at $2.5K plus no matter what. I also agree that the 5MKII is still more than capable.
As for the 5DIII...
don't see a big reason to upgrade. I guess I eventually will though. I've gone from 5D > 5DII. I mainly use my camera for video now though and besides the fixed moire issue and better ISO performance... eh.
I remember when the 1D-MarkIV came out though people were freaking because it could basically see in the dark while not being too noisy. I assume the 5DIII at least matches this or better?
I wouldn't mind shooting in 720p sometimes... but you can only do 60p? Is there a good reason that 720p doesn't support different frame rates? I guess at least it would be nice for slo-mo shots.
don't see a big reason to upgrade. I guess I eventually will though. I've gone from 5D > 5DII. I mainly use my camera for video now though and besides the fixed moire issue and better ISO performance... eh.
I remember when the 1D-MarkIV came out though people were freaking because it could basically see in the dark while not being too noisy. I assume the 5DIII at least matches this or better?
I wouldn't mind shooting in 720p sometimes... but you can only do 60p? Is there a good reason that 720p doesn't support different frame rates? I guess at least it would be nice for slo-mo shots.
Insane Metal
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Holy shit at those comparison pictures. That sensor is a monster.
BigJonsson
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What do you all use to clean your lenses?
MultiCore
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Microfiber, and if I need it, ammonia free glass cleaner.
BlueTsunami
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so close to pulling the trigger on the mark III. always wanted the m2 but wanted to wait for the 3. dat price thoughand with the price of the m2 dropping I have no idea what to do.
In regards to getting the best for the least amount of money (for a Full Frame body) I think the 5DMKII dropping below $2K would be a huge bang for the buck. As great as the 5DMKIII looks to be its got the bleeding edge premium going for it.
hyp
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I have, but the lack of FF was the deal breaker.
hyp
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yea it's starting to sound like a great deal. any idea what it's going to drop to? saw the website above with the $1899 price tag but that site looks shady.
BlueTsunami
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My Mother in Law is looking at DSLRs and wants a Nikon since she has a bunch of Nikon compatible lenses from her old 35 mm. My last two DSLRs are canon so I really know nothing about the Nikon lineup and where things fit in.
The camera store told her she needed at least the D90 to have full AF control over her older lenses. That one seems to be aging a bit at 4+ years old though.
To help me put this in a more familiar light so that I can help her, what are the Nikon range general equivs of between the t2i/t3i and the 60D?
Thanks!
The camera store told her she needed at least the D90 to have full AF control over her older lenses. That one seems to be aging a bit at 4+ years old though.
To help me put this in a more familiar light so that I can help her, what are the Nikon range general equivs of between the t2i/t3i and the 60D?
Thanks!
POWERSPHERE
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It's a shame the D800 outclasses it in Video though, as i'd like to stick with Canon.
Unfortunately if you want a Nikon that will autofocus with what I assume are AF-D lenses then it is either go for a D90 or a D7000, other options being a D300 for crop sensor as well.
The D90 is a great camera though even if it is old you should be able to find a used one for a good price. Otherwise I'd recommend the D7000. That what sucks about entry level Nikons you are forced to use AF-S and G type lenses if you want autofocus.
I got to look at her lenses after I posted one was an AF Nikkor which is not supported at all on the D90 and the other was a mediocre sigma 85-300mm 1:4-5.6
I am going to recommend to her not to worry about matching a DSLR to them. Then she can set a price range and just try out both Canons and Nikons in the range and see which she likes more. Thanks for your help!
I think it's a great lens. Construction and USM is what I thought the 35 f2 (before update) and 50 f1.4 should have been. Image quality good and sharp, but I've read feedback that often mention some purple fringing as a weakness.
I don't use it much, but I don't want to sell it either.
mclaren777
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I don't have it, but have heard very good things. Will probably pick it up when I can get enough money.
POWERSPHERE
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I guess this is a good opportunity to get a 5DII if they do drop, but the 7D is still the king of video, i'd like a full frame stills camera. Oh life.
as a portrait lens, wouldn't the 85mm be a better option?
Unlimited4s
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Probably my favorite lens after my 24-70mm. Fantastic image quality, super fast AF and really cheap. The build quality is also quite nice considering the price. Overall a way better deal than the 50mm1.4 (slower AF, lower image quality imo, build quality not as good, still a great lens though)
And yes, 85mm is better for portraits (less distortion)
A sample, taken at f2.8, 1/160, iso1600 (5D classic):
345triangle
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i moved to tokyo this week and somehow in transition managed to lose my camera bag with NEX-3, A55, lenses etc. this is kind of a tragedy, but i talked myself into replacing both with a NEX-7 today, so i'll come out on top in the end!
er, from a non-financial perspective. though if the bag turns up i guess i'll just sell everything.
er, from a non-financial perspective. though if the bag turns up i guess i'll just sell everything.
Full Resolution Nokia 808 PureView Camera Samples
Nokia 808 Photo Samples In The PureView Mode: Reinventing Zoom
The Handheld Blog said:
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You would be surprised to see that it is a crop from the following shot, where you'll be hard pressed to even find this gentleman.
Nokia 808 Photo Samples In The PureView Mode: Reinventing Zoom
The Handheld Blog said:
345triangle
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i do, and it is! though it does mean i can't quite get by with my various film compacts, unfortunately. i found that NEX 30mm macro pretty indispensible for taking pictures of gadgets.
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