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The official Civilization IV thread
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Put my $5 down on Oblivion too while I was at it.digitalKiva
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when does the demo come out?
I participated in an IRC chat session with Soren Johnson and a couple of other Firaxis developers tonight. I asked them if they were considering an online stat tracking system for Civ IV multiplayer and they said "anything can happen."
If they were to implement a system like that for competitive multiplayer games I don't think I'd ever stop playing the game.
If they were to implement a system like that for competitive multiplayer games I don't think I'd ever stop playing the game.
Some new reviews:
PC Gamer: 9.2/10
1up.com: 9/10
Yahoo! Games: 4.5/5
And interstingly enough, the first person to get the game lives in... Switzerland? Pretty stange considering we (the US) were supposed to get the game yesterday, and Europe wasn't supposed to get it 'till next week.
PC Gamer: 9.2/10
1up.com: 9/10
Yahoo! Games: 4.5/5
And interstingly enough, the first person to get the game lives in... Switzerland? Pretty stange considering we (the US) were supposed to get the game yesterday, and Europe wasn't supposed to get it 'till next week.
Going on 2 hours now and I can't get the game to run. Failed to initalize render/check your graphics settings error. First time in years I've had a problem running a PC game.
AMD 1.4ghz, 512 ram, Radeon 9550. I've tried Cataylst 5.7 - 5.10 with no luck.
Edit: Apparently a lot of ATI users are having problems getting the game to run.
AMD 1.4ghz, 512 ram, Radeon 9550. I've tried Cataylst 5.7 - 5.10 with no luck.
Edit: Apparently a lot of ATI users are having problems getting the game to run.
2 more hours until ebgames gets this.
I have the entire day off! This will consume me!
I have to set my alarm to make sure I go to bed because I lose track of time. Like I mean seriousely. I will look at my clock and it will say 5pm. Then what seems like an hour has passed by, I look at my clock and it says 3am.
Seriousely, this game, Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Suikoden II all do this to me.
I have the entire day off! This will consume me!
I have to set my alarm to make sure I go to bed because I lose track of time. Like I mean seriousely. I will look at my clock and it will say 5pm. Then what seems like an hour has passed by, I look at my clock and it says 3am.
Seriousely, this game, Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Suikoden II all do this to me.
Slo said:Shit. Please keep me updated.
<--- 9800 Pro owner.
Looks like we're gonna have to wait for a patch. It's not a driver issue. Almost everyone with ATI cards are unable to run the game. One guy on the civfanatics boards was able to get his x800 machine at work to run the game, but his home machine with the same card won't run it.
Bleh! Atleast the soundtrack is good so far.
Drinky Crow
Banned
Just got it along with Soul Calibur 3.
siege said:Looks like we're gonna have to wait for a patch. It's not a driver issue. Almost everyone with ATI cards are unable to run the game. One guy on the civfanatics boards was able to get his x800 machine at work to run the game, but his home machine with the same card won't run it.
Bleh! Atleast the soundtrack is good so far.
Look on the bright side guys, you can still enjoy the Soundtrack until Fraxis gets a fix out for you silly ATI users.
Good thing the Soundtrack is really good!
dhendren13
Banned
Holy Crap! How did this game make it through QA/QC... let's list the problems so far:
1. Many people with ATI cards, regardless of version or drivers, are unable to play the game due to a "renderer error". Take-Two is "looking into it".
2. Many of those who got the preorder edition are reporting that their tech tree map is in French. Take-Two will post a resolution to this on their site - sometime.
3. Many are reporting that the disc labels are swapped for the Install and Play discs.
I'm hesitant to even open my copy now - might just do a return...
Seriously - how does crap like this make it out the door?
1. Many people with ATI cards, regardless of version or drivers, are unable to play the game due to a "renderer error". Take-Two is "looking into it".
2. Many of those who got the preorder edition are reporting that their tech tree map is in French. Take-Two will post a resolution to this on their site - sometime.
3. Many are reporting that the disc labels are swapped for the Install and Play discs.
I'm hesitant to even open my copy now - might just do a return...
Seriously - how does crap like this make it out the door?
digitalKiva
Member
i just want the freaking demo so i can see if my system can handle it before i go make a purchase.
ConfusingJazz
Member
dhendren13 said:
Maybe I am glad that they had this "shipping" problem for everybody but preorders...
Wow, wow, wow... This is a great game. I haven't had a chance to delve into it (there are many, many minor changes everywhere), but it's clearly a quality production. The graphics are beautiful and the sound is astounding. I don't know that I'll ever be able to blaze around in Civ IV like I can in Civ II, but right now I don't care.
The game itself seems more userfriendly than ever which might actually put off some Civ fans. For example, the game now shows you how many turns it will take to research a new Tech when you select it. Another example is that it displays in the corner the Civ score of every Civ you've discovered by default. I have to turn that off if I can, since I've always tried to stay in the dark on Civ scores until I saw the graph at the end of the game (or play session if I felt like rewarding myself.).
That's not to say I'm complaining. This has some of the feel of the Pirates! update, but it doesn't feel dumbed down at all. Civ fans can rest easy. I hope everyone else works out the technical issues, because this is clearly one of the best, if not the best, GOTY.
The game itself seems more userfriendly than ever which might actually put off some Civ fans. For example, the game now shows you how many turns it will take to research a new Tech when you select it. Another example is that it displays in the corner the Civ score of every Civ you've discovered by default. I have to turn that off if I can, since I've always tried to stay in the dark on Civ scores until I saw the graph at the end of the game (or play session if I felt like rewarding myself.).
That's not to say I'm complaining. This has some of the feel of the Pirates! update, but it doesn't feel dumbed down at all. Civ fans can rest easy. I hope everyone else works out the technical issues, because this is clearly one of the best, if not the best, GOTY.
Firaxis dropped stuff and added stuff to keep the relatively complex game mechanics more or less in-line. They certainly have enough sense not to follow the myopic logic of bigger is better that so many here on GAF seems fixated over.
With games like Civ, there's always the danger of overreaching and making a game too complex for even a strategy gamer to understand. See Master of Orion III.
Rather than add the pile of features in CivIII, Firaxis dropped a lot of items, 20 turn deals are out, pollution is out, but in turn, they added new stuff like more resources and health in place of pollution. Overall, Soren's target of 30% new stuff and 60-70% old stuff is pretty accurate.
The game feels like Civ III, but not entirely like CiviIII because it is a new game. It's not a rehash of the same engine with basically the same features.
It's a good balance overall.
With games like Civ, there's always the danger of overreaching and making a game too complex for even a strategy gamer to understand. See Master of Orion III.
Rather than add the pile of features in CivIII, Firaxis dropped a lot of items, 20 turn deals are out, pollution is out, but in turn, they added new stuff like more resources and health in place of pollution. Overall, Soren's target of 30% new stuff and 60-70% old stuff is pretty accurate.
The game feels like Civ III, but not entirely like CiviIII because it is a new game. It's not a rehash of the same engine with basically the same features.
It's a good balance overall.
I like 1 and 2, but 3 hooked me the most. I think the game has gradually evolved from a hands off slightly obtuse strategy game to a more hands on, detail oriented strategy game.
Civ III certainly wasn't as simple as 1 or 2, but it also had better AI. In fact, all the undocumented CivIII 'features' and AI quirks took years to unravel. Its a bit crazy for a game to have that much going on.
Civ III certainly wasn't as simple as 1 or 2, but it also had better AI. In fact, all the undocumented CivIII 'features' and AI quirks took years to unravel. Its a bit crazy for a game to have that much going on.
Alpha Centarui was a tease since half the game features were put in for the human player's benefit only and the AI had no clue to even begin using them.
During Civ 3's development, Almost all of Civ3's dev team left for BigHugeGames along with Brian Reynolds due to an apparent disagreement between Sid and Brian over how Civ3 should go. Brian wanted to turn Civ into an RTS, which became Rise of Nations. Soren Johnson was brought in as the AI programmer. Soren became instrumental in designing Civ III so that almost every feature you see can be used by the AI.
I like that. One of the things he changed was to make the AI play against everyone equally including against other AI players. In Civ2, everyone will declare war on the human player once it gets too powerful, in CivI there are pre-determined world war dates. CivIII threw all that out for a more dynamic AI that treats everyone equally.
It sounds like a glowing review of Civ3's AI from me, but it has some flaws as well, that said, its much better than the previous two games. It's the first Civ game to give me a good feeling of being an equal, rather than fighting against a monolithic AI gang
During Civ 3's development, Almost all of Civ3's dev team left for BigHugeGames along with Brian Reynolds due to an apparent disagreement between Sid and Brian over how Civ3 should go. Brian wanted to turn Civ into an RTS, which became Rise of Nations. Soren Johnson was brought in as the AI programmer. Soren became instrumental in designing Civ III so that almost every feature you see can be used by the AI.
I like that. One of the things he changed was to make the AI play against everyone equally including against other AI players. In Civ2, everyone will declare war on the human player once it gets too powerful, in CivI there are pre-determined world war dates. CivIII threw all that out for a more dynamic AI that treats everyone equally.
It sounds like a glowing review of Civ3's AI from me, but it has some flaws as well, that said, its much better than the previous two games. It's the first Civ game to give me a good feeling of being an equal, rather than fighting against a monolithic AI gang
siege said:Here's a walkthrough of someone starting a game in Civ IV. Something to do while we wait.
http://www.kalikokottage.com/civ3/sullla/civ4_walk_1.html
The unit promotion system owns.
I guess you can run the game in a window after all.
Everyone interested in the game should read that walkthrough, it's an amazingly good preview.