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The Official HP Touchpad Thread of $100 Digital Picture Frames
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Nice. Glad to see it works on the iPad 2. I was comparing it to the iPad 1.
Guess that makes sense considering the iPad 2 has twice the ram.
It's difficult when comparing a first gen device (Touchpad) to a second gen device (iPad 2) even if they did come out around the same time.
edit: Lol. Just tried to load the last page of the PC screenshot thread on Safari (iPad 1) and it crashed. Loaded fine on the Touchpad.
Guess that makes sense considering the iPad 2 has twice the ram.
It's difficult when comparing a first gen device (Touchpad) to a second gen device (iPad 2) even if they did come out around the same time.
edit: Lol. Just tried to load the last page of the PC screenshot thread on Safari (iPad 1) and it crashed. Loaded fine on the Touchpad.
akmcbroom said:
For example, just navigating on the secondapps app between threads or forums you will often have to manually refresh. Like say going from thread to thread list to another thread back to first thread, etc. etc., it is rarely (or maybe never) updated without a manual refresh.
akmcbroom said:
by 'not the best', it's more like 'nonexistent', unfortunately.
Vyer said:For example, just navigating on the secondapps app between threads or forums you will often have to manually refresh. Like say going from thread to thread list to another thread back to first thread, etc. etc., it is rarely (or maybe never) updated without a manual refresh.
by 'not the best', it's more like 'nonexistent', unfortunately.
Oh, that makes sense. And yeah, the lack of a homepage is weird.
Eel O'Brian
Member
Decided to gamble a buck and try out the Readme ereader app, wish I hadn't. Really barebones, the "change font size" buttons work half the time, no font options, only reads epub. Seemed speedy at first, but I've had it all of 20 minutes and it's already locked up my Touchpad, forcing me to do a hard reset. Has a few good reviews on the app store but it's crap, avoid.
Eel O'Brian
Member
Already have pReader Native installed, Readme makes pReader look good. At least the pReader dev doesn't charge for his jank and is gonna keep patching/updating.
Update: Deleted the app, reinstalled, now it doesn't work at all, freezes on the library screen and forces me to do another hard reset. Fantastic. I'd have been better off wiping my ass with that dollar.
Update: Deleted the app, reinstalled, now it doesn't work at all, freezes on the library screen and forces me to do another hard reset. Fantastic. I'd have been better off wiping my ass with that dollar.
Marty Chinn
Member
Please don't say something valid, please don't say something valid....dream said:
Really impressed at the TouchDroid team racing to get Android on this thing. While I've been pleasantly surprised by WebOS (especially its card system), I'm in love with Android's great web browsing experience and vast app selection.
Dual boot would be ideal, in case the Android build has some quirks. Can the hardware harmed by playing around with this stuff?
Dual boot would be ideal, in case the Android build has some quirks. Can the hardware harmed by playing around with this stuff?
Unknown Soldier
Member
What I think is hilarious is that what you buy on the HP App Store is the "Preware How To Install Instructions" for $0.99 while in actuality Preware itself is and has always been free if you are capable of using The Google.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4kSGmlGy0
video of touchdroid in action. still workin on touchscreen.
video of touchdroid in action. still workin on touchscreen.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
does overclocking these things take much of a hit to the battery?
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
oh and is there an alien blue type app(improved mobile reddit) for webOS?
edit: looks like reddit has released their own mobile version:
m.reddit.com
looks very alien blue like.
edit: looks like reddit has released their own mobile version:
m.reddit.com
looks very alien blue like.
butter_stick
Banned
Flash support itself is kind of buggy, but its still much better to have the option than not. Ideally it'd have a native YouTube app, but its still nice to be able to go to a Flash site and have it just work.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Big Ass Ramp said:
Yeah I use this on iphone. It's light and good.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Posted from HP Touchpad. Woohoo~
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
ok yep secondapps is fucked on the touchpad makes me crash every time.
butter_stick
Banned
Not had any crashes with the Secondapps site.
Posted from the Secondapps site.
Posted from the Secondapps site.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
butter_stick said:
really? Wow, it happens EVERY time for me.
butter_stick
Banned
I've only had one site crash the browser, and it was a BBC News one.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
oh dang it it looks like the mobile reddit site doesn't work... The drop down menu to login won't work. Dang it :-(
edit: ...and now it does. I refreshed it several times, maybe a cache issue agajn?
edit: ...and now it does. I refreshed it several times, maybe a cache issue agajn?
Jesus Carbomb
From Water into Guinness
The color temperature on my touchpad display is on the warm side and I can't stand it. I prefer a cooler display temp and going from my laptop/desktop/tv to the touchpad is a bit jarring. I seriously hope this can be changed through software via a patch or update... I won't be holding my breath for it though.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
alright I got Preware installed. Wow was that easy.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
oh shit guys I'm overclocking this motherfucker
I'm scared
I'm scared
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
ok wow everyone should overclock 1.5 holy shit it is screaming. I'm worriedabout battery life but I think whatever battery life I lose will be worth it.
crap triple post sorry guys. won't happen again.
crap triple post sorry guys. won't happen again.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Jesus Carbomb said:The color temperature on my touchpad display is on the warm side and I can't stand it. I prefer a cooler display temp and going from my laptop/desktop/tv to the touchpad is a bit jarring. I seriously hope this can be changed through software via a patch or update... I won't be holding my breath for it though.
There are apparently at least 2 suppliers of panels for Touchpads. Apple iPads have the same issue, incidentally, also due to multiple suppliers.
So I finally got the touchpad yesterday. I figure I'll make a few comments about webOS and the initial experience.
overall, I like it.
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the setup process is pretty painless and quick. setting up email and photobucket accounts with the systemwide "synergy" process is very nice. I like the idea of system-wide third party services that integrate into the OS.
The browser is OK. about on par with the ipad 2 in loading speed but the overall scrolling speed is 30 fps and not 60 fps like the iOS. even on light pages like the mobile gaf site, it's not as smooth as iOS. i don't know why this is (webOS limitation?). 60 fps should be a hard design commitment and easily achievable on this hardware.
Flash in the browser for videos is a fucking joke. slow and it ramps up and down in speed for videos. it stutters a ton when played in the page and needs to go full screen to be watchable. and the touchpad got warm to the touch after around 60 seconds of playback.
html5 video players with h.264 encoding solve this. (shock!) but on 3.0.0, the html5 playback for giantbomb was not working (it would spawn a new playback window but then hang). 3.0.2 fixed this. it still doesn't play in the webpage but at least the new playback window loads up.
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this brings me to cards and stacks. it seems like it adds a bit too much clutter and window management for my tastes.
example. i'm in the twitter client, i click on a t.co link. it spawns a new browser window that dumps me to card view. this takes some time (app launching, in general, takes longer than i expected). then if the link has an h.264 video, that'll spawn another window to show the video. the i have two extra cards cluttering up my card view. (also weird is that sometimes the browser will open in a stack and sometimes it'll open in a new card. i don't know the internal logic behind this)
i know it's not a big deal to flick them off the screen but, really, i keep thinking "why should i have to deal with this at all?" why spawn all these windows that I have to manage or flip between?
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in the browser, there seems to be no longpress on a link to open in a new window. maybe i'm not pressing long enough? and the tap detection is not as good as on the ipad. for example, pressing on spoiler text in a gaf thread. the ipad always "knows" i want to tap the black bar to reveal the spoiler, but the touchpad shows me, consistently, missing the target by a few pixels and not revealing the text. the AI of the multitouch to detect nearby targets is not as good as iOS. no one really talks about it but it's one of those things iOS got right 4 years ago
I have not yet found a simple way to import bookmarks into the browser but I'll keep looking for that.
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i like the little status bar on top that you can tap to quickly change brightness and turn on rotation lock. works faster than iOS and the home button double tap and then the screen swipe.
the system font is a little small and doesn't look as good on the lowish res screen compared to simple helvetica on the ipad. i have to zoom in a bit more to make the text easier to read.
I like the email client. looks very nice and setup was a breeze. i like the draggable panes to customize how you want portrait and landscape views to look.
i wish there was a better twitter client. the one out there is like tweetdeck and uses very narrow columns.
i have not paid money for an RSS reader - i don't know if i want to setup my CC with this thing. for now i'm using the google webpage for reader and it works OK.
the system keyboard is nice and i appreciate the number row of keys. but iOS5's split keyboard is a better solution for most portrait typing and i miss not having it. (the iOS 5 beta has spoiled me)
I have not yet played around with the media player as i haven't put any of my music on there yet.
The app market is decently laid out but it would benefit from having small promotion areas like the ios store. weekly groupings of favorite apps. still, i was able to find the LCARS alarm clock pretty easily and that's all that matters.
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exhibition mode is nice and the touchstone dock is a very nice piece of hardware that "just works". Apple should totally rip that off for the ipad 3
the screen is nice but does not get bright the like ipad screen. it also experiences the same light leaks that the ipad 2 has. (why did i not read a billion stories about this in the tech news?)
I'm going to stick with the stock 3.0.2 experience for another week to get a feel for what HP really made but then I'll try out the preware hacks to speed this thing up a little bit.
overall, I like it.
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the setup process is pretty painless and quick. setting up email and photobucket accounts with the systemwide "synergy" process is very nice. I like the idea of system-wide third party services that integrate into the OS.
The browser is OK. about on par with the ipad 2 in loading speed but the overall scrolling speed is 30 fps and not 60 fps like the iOS. even on light pages like the mobile gaf site, it's not as smooth as iOS. i don't know why this is (webOS limitation?). 60 fps should be a hard design commitment and easily achievable on this hardware.
Flash in the browser for videos is a fucking joke. slow and it ramps up and down in speed for videos. it stutters a ton when played in the page and needs to go full screen to be watchable. and the touchpad got warm to the touch after around 60 seconds of playback.
html5 video players with h.264 encoding solve this. (shock!) but on 3.0.0, the html5 playback for giantbomb was not working (it would spawn a new playback window but then hang). 3.0.2 fixed this. it still doesn't play in the webpage but at least the new playback window loads up.
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this brings me to cards and stacks. it seems like it adds a bit too much clutter and window management for my tastes.
example. i'm in the twitter client, i click on a t.co link. it spawns a new browser window that dumps me to card view. this takes some time (app launching, in general, takes longer than i expected). then if the link has an h.264 video, that'll spawn another window to show the video. the i have two extra cards cluttering up my card view. (also weird is that sometimes the browser will open in a stack and sometimes it'll open in a new card. i don't know the internal logic behind this)
i know it's not a big deal to flick them off the screen but, really, i keep thinking "why should i have to deal with this at all?" why spawn all these windows that I have to manage or flip between?
--------------
in the browser, there seems to be no longpress on a link to open in a new window. maybe i'm not pressing long enough? and the tap detection is not as good as on the ipad. for example, pressing on spoiler text in a gaf thread. the ipad always "knows" i want to tap the black bar to reveal the spoiler, but the touchpad shows me, consistently, missing the target by a few pixels and not revealing the text. the AI of the multitouch to detect nearby targets is not as good as iOS. no one really talks about it but it's one of those things iOS got right 4 years ago
I have not yet found a simple way to import bookmarks into the browser but I'll keep looking for that.
----------------
i like the little status bar on top that you can tap to quickly change brightness and turn on rotation lock. works faster than iOS and the home button double tap and then the screen swipe.
the system font is a little small and doesn't look as good on the lowish res screen compared to simple helvetica on the ipad. i have to zoom in a bit more to make the text easier to read.
I like the email client. looks very nice and setup was a breeze. i like the draggable panes to customize how you want portrait and landscape views to look.
i wish there was a better twitter client. the one out there is like tweetdeck and uses very narrow columns.
i have not paid money for an RSS reader - i don't know if i want to setup my CC with this thing. for now i'm using the google webpage for reader and it works OK.
the system keyboard is nice and i appreciate the number row of keys. but iOS5's split keyboard is a better solution for most portrait typing and i miss not having it. (the iOS 5 beta has spoiled me)
I have not yet played around with the media player as i haven't put any of my music on there yet.
The app market is decently laid out but it would benefit from having small promotion areas like the ios store. weekly groupings of favorite apps. still, i was able to find the LCARS alarm clock pretty easily and that's all that matters.
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exhibition mode is nice and the touchstone dock is a very nice piece of hardware that "just works". Apple should totally rip that off for the ipad 3
the screen is nice but does not get bright the like ipad screen. it also experiences the same light leaks that the ipad 2 has. (why did i not read a billion stories about this in the tech news?)
I'm going to stick with the stock 3.0.2 experience for another week to get a feel for what HP really made but then I'll try out the preware hacks to speed this thing up a little bit.
ComputerMKII
Banned
Dual boot (webOS + Android) confirmed and working:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?4260-Touchdroid-Preview-Video-Current-progress
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?4260-Touchdroid-Preview-Video-Current-progress
Dreams-Visions
Member
*thumbs up*
zephervack
Member
Anyone knows why this thing saves pictures in such low res, every time i save a picture from a website or take a screenshot of it (home + power) it saves the picture but its very blurry, any way to fix it?
butter_stick
Banned
Maybe it's because I overclocked straight away, but flash is great for me. If its embedded in a page I'll click play and it plays back just like I'd expect it to.
The problems are using controls and such.
The problems are using controls and such.
butter_stick said:
I'll be re-evaluating flash after I start the overclock next week. I hope it will run better. (not that I use it a lot but it makes for an interesting exercise for me)
the controls will always remain a problem as long as they expect hover states from a mouse. a tap to bring up controls pauses video. flash players need to be built for finger taps
gregor7777
Banned
butter_stick said:
Yeah it's likely because you overclocked. The biggest gains I've noticed from overclocking come from flash video playback. It goes from a stutter-fest to mediocre-performance. It really helps.
butter_stick
Banned
It depends on the site, I find. 720p YouTube and BBC iPlayer are perfect. 720p Justin.tv is a stuttery mess.
It is funny to see the shortcomings of this tablet compared to a WebOS phone (bought a firesale Veer from HP.com). The Touchpad is definitely half baked.
For instance:
-when I open the browser on my phone it has all my bookmarks laid out in a speed dial fashion; the Touchpad just opens the browser . . . to nothing
-Bezel gestures are practically non-existent. On the phone I can quick select any of the apps on the dock at any time and cycle between open cards with just a swipe forward or back (or go forward or back within an application if that's my preference). Hopefully there is a sensor around the notification button because this is really useful.
-'Just Type' isn't nearly as useful with a software keyboard. Don't know how they can fix this. . .
The browser issues seem like easy fixes and hopefully they're addressed. The others are more hardware related and seem unlikely to improve. Still, it's difficult to complain too much considering the price. For under $200, I got a tablet and an off contract smartphone to tether it to when I'm out (hooray freetether!).
For instance:
-when I open the browser on my phone it has all my bookmarks laid out in a speed dial fashion; the Touchpad just opens the browser . . . to nothing
-Bezel gestures are practically non-existent. On the phone I can quick select any of the apps on the dock at any time and cycle between open cards with just a swipe forward or back (or go forward or back within an application if that's my preference). Hopefully there is a sensor around the notification button because this is really useful.
-'Just Type' isn't nearly as useful with a software keyboard. Don't know how they can fix this. . .
The browser issues seem like easy fixes and hopefully they're addressed. The others are more hardware related and seem unlikely to improve. Still, it's difficult to complain too much considering the price. For under $200, I got a tablet and an off contract smartphone to tether it to when I'm out (hooray freetether!).
Phantast2k
Member
VADERNOOO.
I times of loneliness & sadness I surfed to a porn streaming site. Afterwards I made sure I deleted the cookies and history, but that fucker kept the search engine and now I can't delete it. Any solutions for this?
I times of loneliness & sadness I surfed to a porn streaming site. Afterwards I made sure I deleted the cookies and history, but that fucker kept the search engine and now I can't delete it. Any solutions for this?
Phantast2k said:VADERNOOO.
I times of loneliness & sadness I surfed to a porn streaming site. Afterwards I made sure I deleted the cookies and history, but that fucker kept the search engine and now I can't delete it. Any solutions for this?
LOL
Out of curiousity, I went to preferences under Just Type. What a mess. How does it decide what to add? I have options for sites I've gone to once from Reddit.
I can't see a way to delete them, sorry.
Try clearing cookies/cache/history/everything browser again. Worked for when I got a duplicate Wikipedia en search.Phantast2k said:VADERNOOO.
I times of loneliness & sadness I surfed to a porn streaming site. Afterwards I made sure I deleted the cookies and history, but that fucker kept the search engine and now I can't delete it. Any solutions for this?