Giganticus
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and it's the greatest grief. best.syllogism said:
The Official Left 4 Dead Thread
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Botolf said:
I didn't say you hacked, I was just wondering how since I was speccing through your viewpoint.
Also, even with headphones I can never pinpoint where boomers are, but I guess some people with really good sound systems can.I also learned today that the klaxon thing in the middle of blood harvest also has a closet everyone can just hide in, upstairs.
I forget who said "hack", but I remember somebody saying it. Maybe it was me :lolBlizzard said:I didn't say you hacked, I was just wondering how since I was speccing through your viewpoint.
All you really need to get good at pinpointing is a lot of volume. I'm not using sophisticated headphones at all, but blasting sound into my ears is usually enough to pick up on the little differences (the location and proximity of a boomer, for example).
I've known about it for a while, first time I've actually used it though. Valve should really add breakaway walls to all the closets in Versus, seeing as they aren't used for reviving.
Pop On Arrival
Banned
fun game with gaffers earlier. yeah, they really do need to fix the finale in BH. While I still think the levels leading to the finale are way better in Blood Harvest, the finale is absolute balls compared to the No Mercy one. You've got two good turtling spots with plenty of ammo in BH. :|
Pop On Arrival
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Blizzard said:
I had to bail that game during the 3rd level so I wasn't around to see how things turned out. Heard you guys only won by 100 points, though. The second match we played was a little more decisive, but you weren't there.
Pop On Arrival said:
The first game was definitely fun. Definitely satisfying to wipe the survivors as they run
The second game was a mess. We tried rushing through and it just didn't work. Me being tank in the finale with you shooting me constantly in the back with your autoshotty was definitely the cherry on top of my embarrassment sundae.
Will play again for sure. Versus is only fun with fellow Gaffers.
PillowKnight
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People have been banned for much less. That thread was the most obvious troll ever.McBacon said:
Christopher
BDE (Big Dad Energy)
The witch is the creepiest thing ever - I don't know if I can ever beat her with no damage haha
The Librarian
Banned
Got the game today (360 version). Can't wait to play it.
RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Game definitely needs some more variety to it. Dunno how much longer it will be able to keep my interest, and I just got it yesterday.
But it's pretty damn fun. Had no idea the fucking thing was only 2 on one 360 but luckily I have 2 TVs and my friend got a copy and brought over his 360. An Xmas of local 4 player shooting the fuck out of shit.
Good times.
But it's pretty damn fun. Had no idea the fucking thing was only 2 on one 360 but luckily I have 2 TVs and my friend got a copy and brought over his 360. An Xmas of local 4 player shooting the fuck out of shit.
Good times.
OldJadedGamer
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Christopher said:
Take the auto shotgun, then get close enough to her with your light off. Shoot her one to startle her, then run backwards shooting very fast and you'll kill her before she touches you.
QuickSilverGunk
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Just got it for 360 today! Wonderful game! 
OldJadedGamer
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Ganhyun said:
I guess it would. I got cr0wned second which is why I didn't think about it. This game has great word of mouth, at least 3 people on my friends list bought the game because everyone else was playing it.
haven't had a chance to play online yet, but I did play two games with my sis (who hardly ever plays video games and she got the hang of it/got into it pretty quick) on normal which were both super fun
first on no mercy she was the only one to make it to the chopper
then on blood harvest I was the only one to make it to the escape vehicle
clearly we were never good at working on a team together
first on no mercy she was the only one to make it to the chopper
then on blood harvest I was the only one to make it to the escape vehicle
clearly we were never good at working on a team together
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Pop On Arrival
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jasonng said:
Hahaha, I laughed so hard when I realized that I was actually CHASING the Tank during the finale. Probably the first time that has ever happened. And yeah, all GAF games are definitely fun. It's a shame that they don't happen that often in versus mode.
PillowKnight
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They do though, you're just never there!Pop On Arrival said:
I'm still alive, really though I don't know how you guys can not say something.
Pop On Arrival
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PillowKnight said:
no one on my friends list anyway. :<
PillowKnight
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Ah, well I mostly play with TF2 gaf. Thing is you're always playing when we play so I never invite. You should come sometime, we often have awesomely close games.Pop On Arrival said:
ahoyhoy said:
The fence by the plane you fuel up is probably the single easiest place to defend in any finale. Wide open, and almost impossible to get swarmed. Blood Harvest is hard because you rarely get any molotovs so you have to save up. Even if you did that, you might have to deal with a tank or a witch, so if 3 people have a molotov, you can't miss or life might get difficult. Not to mention special infected can make life difficult. Oh, and setting off the stupid crows is always a pain.
I'd say overall finale difficulty is Dead Air<No Mercy<Death Toll<Blood Harvest... if you don't abuse the rock on Death Toll. No Mercy and Death Toll tend to give excessive amounts of molotovs and pipebombs. Death Toll also tends to give excessive amounts of first aid kits, but there's usually a witch or a tank (or both) whereas No Mercy very rarely has either. Plus there's those stupid cliffs that zombies fall off of and there's really no convenient corner to hide in. And for whatever reason, ditching out of the finale house on Death Toll seems to be way more problematic than on Blood Harvest. Also, the tank can put the fire out by dipping into the water, so you have to be careful about that.
As far as overall campaign difficulties go.... I would say No Mercy<Dead Air<Blood Harvest<Death Toll. No Mercy is by far the easiest. Dead Air has some rough patches, but still not too bad. Blood Harvest and Death Toll are both largely outside so you have to stick close. Death Toll 4 in the town can get downright ugly... there is almost always a tank, and there are cars everywhere. Plus the director tends to be really stingy with supplies. And I'd say the average level on Death Toll is harder than Blood Harvest.
The hardest non-finales are probably Death Toll 4 (the town), Blood Harvest 3 (the bridge), Dead Air 3 (the construction sight). Out of those I'd say it goes Dead Air 3<Blood Harvest 3<Death Toll 4 in difficulty.
Shake Appeal
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Yes, I was referring to the fence when I said Dead Air was the easiest, and I agree with most of the above post except for maybe the non-finale choices (I still think No Mercy 3 is one of the hardest).
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Does anyone have good tips/tricks for the Blood Harvest finale on Expert? My friends and I have beaten No Mercy, Death Toll and Dead Air on Expert, but using their respective exploits for the Finale (Jesus Room, Rock and On top of the Airplane, respectively).
Anything similar for Blood Harvest?
Anything similar for Blood Harvest?
Pop On Arrival
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Domino Theory said:
Get to the second floor of the barn, and just turtle by the pile of ammo with four auto shotties. Once the tank arrives, just scatter and shoot the crap out of him while he chases someone. The actual finale of Blood harvest is the easiest out of the 4, even without using exploits so you shouldn't have that much of a problem.
Uhhh, me and a bunch of friends just started playing Expert and the difficulty is just brutal. At first we had problems with tanks but we've figured that out (molotov its ass and run our asses off as far as we can). We just have difficulty staying alive throughout the various scenarios the game throws at you. I think it's our movement. Do you guys move with one or two guys crouched in front (to prevent friendly fire)? Or are there better formations to move around with?
ElyrionX said:
The best strategy for the tank is to molotov it, then shove your ass in a corner with four players having an autoshotty and it'll die in literal seconds as you unload your guns into it.
Before lvl 2 weapons, you can still take it down extremely fast with the regular shotgun if you put semi-decent distance between you two as you unload.
As to expert, yeah friendly fire is the big killer so wherever possible, we have two crouched (and they can melee + shoot) and have the back group NOT use shotguns as the spread is so large and few can control it well.
Pop On Arrival
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ElyrionX said:
Just try to tell your team to avoid moving around when a rush is coming or when you're clearing out a location with a lot of infected. When you hear the music signal, just find the nearest corner and start shooting the shit out of every zombie that comes in your direction. Just wait till all the gunfire has stopped before you start moving forward.
And yeah, amir0x is right. All you have to do against a tank really is to find a really small close, get your asses in it, and wait for him to come stomping in and unload everything you have on him. If you guys don't panic, and time your initial shots right, he should die way before taking anyone out.
edit: 4 autoshotties are perfectly fine, you've just got to be aware of what's happening around you. If you want to take extra. Having 3 shotguns and 1 hunting rifle works, too. Really, the Assault rifle is near useless. It does piss-poor damage, it runs out of ammo fairly quickly, and it sucks against rushes.
ElyrionX said:
Well if two have autoshottys and two the regular lvl 2 machine gun or hunting rifle, the tank will still go down in seconds - just 4 seconds instead of 3.
edit: I've never played with a team in which all four people could appropriately keep from hitting the teammates in front of them with autoshotties, particularly since on expert one or two autoshots in the back will kill you. It's too much of a risk I find unless you play with all God players, which is rare even when playing with friends.
I hope a FLAMETHROWER is the next downloadable weapon
It would require some teamwork to use effectively, you'd want to let the person with the best judgment to use the flamethrower, so they don't accidently torch the team when being swarmed.
And it'd give propane tanks another use.
Versus is a whole other can of beans though, I can't stop laughing after successfully barfing, smoking, pouncing and incapping survivors
It would require some teamwork to use effectively, you'd want to let the person with the best judgment to use the flamethrower, so they don't accidently torch the team when being swarmed.
And it'd give propane tanks another use.
I'm starting to feel that now after sinking around 100 hours the past month.RevenantKioku said:
Versus is a whole other can of beans though, I can't stop laughing after successfully barfing, smoking, pouncing and incapping survivors
Wii said:I hope a FLAMETHROWER is the next downloadable weapon
It would require some teamwork to use effectively, you'd want to let the person with the best judgment to use the flamethrower, so they don't accidently torch the team when being swarmed.
And it'd give propane tanks another use.
I'm starting to feel that now after sinking around 100 hours the past month.
Versus is a whole other can of beans though, I can't stop laughing after successfully barfing, smoking, pouncing and incapping survivors
Versus is getting tedious too, they REALLY need to add the other two campaigns and add the new campaign they were talking about.
And yeah, flamethrower should probably be the next downloadable weapon... isn't that what Valve said already?
Flamethrowers are going to be a pain when it comes to friendly fire. People have enough problems timing their molotovs as it is already. I can't imagine what it'll be like with pub players.
Are there actually people who can reach the expert finales without dying once throughout the four stages before the finale? Is that even possible?
Are there actually people who can reach the expert finales without dying once throughout the four stages before the finale? Is that even possible?
A flamethrower could work if you attach some negatives to it, such as slow movement speed or slower "look" speed. Basically the message would be "This isn't a weapon you can run into a room alone with and kill everything without trying, and if you kill your teammates, you're screwed"