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The Official Left 4 Dead Thread

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1-D_FTW

Member
Now that I've actually read the update list, there's not a single thing I disagree with. Kinda sucks you know where tanks are gonna spawn, but at least there won't be huge differences tactically anymore.

Even hope those NAT fixes address the weird issue with seeing servers.
 
V

Valkyr Junkie

Member
Normalized special infected melee damage

Obviously that doesn't include the tank, but does that now mean that hunters do as little melee damage as smokers and tanks? :(
 
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JRPereira

Member
Valkyr Junkie said:
Normalized special infected melee damage

Obviously that doesn't include the tank, but does that now mean that hunters do as little melee damage as smokers and tanks? :(
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I'm hoping it's closer to them all doing 5 or so, maybe the hunter gets a bonus.
 
A

Amir0x

Banned
Revolutionary said:
EDIT: Not sure I like the "Tank and Witch spawn at the same % for both teams" thing.
Kinda takes away the suspense of "I hope we don't get a tank"..
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I can't tell you how many times not having a tank was the difference between a victory and a loss. When you're playing great teams, it can be so unbelievably frustrating to barely lose and realize you could have taken down a player or two with a tank.

I am sooo happy about that change.
 
R

Red

Member
Holy shit that smoker damage-per-second thing will make the "no damage from special infected" achievement so much harder.

Gotta get working on that now.

Mostly I like what I see, though. Should change around versus a good bit.
 
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Valkyr Junkie

Member
Amir0x said:
I can't tell you how many times not having a tank was the difference between a victory and a loss. When you're playing great teams, it can be so unbelievably frustrating to barely lose and realize you could have taken down a player or two with a tank.

I am sooo happy about that change.
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I think the ideal thing would be to make it a server option. Because I agree with you that having a equal footing with the tank is crucial for competitive play, but not so much for casual play IMO. Last night I played through a whole VS campaign and neither team got a single tank until the BH finale. It was pretty bizarre.
 
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RocketDarkness

Member
Crunched said:
Holy shit that smoker damage-per-second thing will make the "no damage from special infected" achievement so much harder.

Gotta get working on that now.

Mostly I like what I see, though. Should change around versus a good bit.
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That smoker change is versus-only.
 
S

SundaySounds

Banned
DOWNLOADING PATCH NOW

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Z

zoku88

Member
PillowKnight said:
That was a tank server , normally we'd just breeze through that level.
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Ooooh, that makes sense.

The only other time I played with GAF on that level, we didnt get particularity close to dying :lol

EDIT: WTH at the picture above me?
 
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TriangularDuck

Member
Wow, the Smoker got seriously buffed.

And he was already damn good if you knew how to use him. I hate to open a can of worms, but he could perhaps be overpowered? Perhaps that's not why this patch isn't going simultaneously on the Xbox, maybe Valve are just trying out various balance changes.
 
M

mudkip!

Neo Member
Great changes. I'm glad they badass'ed the Infected from what they were.

For those of you guys who are having log-in problems, (and I'm not sure if this has been posted before) you can have a wank fantasizing about this.

RE2 mod for L4D. Great pick, and I wish those guys godspeed in their project.
 
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vertopci

Member
Holy fucking shit. The amount of balance changes made to versus modes remind of a patch for RTS games :lol

Some awesome fucking stuff in the patch.
 
V

Volcynika

Member
TriangularDuck said:
Wow, the Smoker got seriously buffed.

And he was already damn good if you knew how to use him. I hate to open a can of worms, but he could perhaps be overpowered? Perhaps that's not why this patch isn't going simultaneously on the Xbox, maybe Valve are just trying out various balance changes.
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Honestly, he was way too situational, and he could barely do any damage at all outside of certain places in a map.
 
B

Blizzard

Banned
Apparently Valve didn't fix voicechat spam. I wish they'd at least add a "mute teammate button", AND one that worked on voicechat, so you don't constantly hear the Zoey death scream from your teammates.
 
G

ghst

thanks for the laugh
vertopci said:
Holy fucking shit. The amount of balance changes made to versus modes remind of a patch for RTS games
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compare this with the situation that coh has been in for the best part of the last year, and it's hard not to feel the blood boil.

this guy said:
So by, "in the coming weeks" they mean never, right? :(
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i guess this means around the same time as the "DEE EL SEE".
 
D

Daigoro

Member
FUCK YES! fantastic patch. wow Valve.

Smoker buff?! whooooo! sounds really good.

"Fixed Survivors being able to climb surfaces marked for versus infected only"

i didnt even know this was possible. anyone? dosent sound like it was usefull for Survivors, but it interesting.

man i was going to play some Ninja Gaiden tonight, but i have to get this patch now.
 
C

CrazedArabMan

Member
Wow, seems like that patch made the versus noob friendly, not sure if I'm going to like it, I found it balanced beside the glitches, you just had to know what you are doing, well I'll see how it goes when the update hits the 360.
 
T

Teknoman

Member
Blizzard said:
Improved loading time
Added HUD elements to show status of other infected players
Normalized special infected melee damage
Tank spawns at the same % through the map for both teams in versus mode
Made the Tank and Witch spawn directly on the escape route
Increased chance of getting the Tank or Witch
Fixed team swap issue


Hunter
Easier to pounce a Survivor who is meleeing
Increased Minimum damage a Hunter pounce does


Smoker
Fixed Smoker tongue tolerance
Smoker now has to be killed or the tongue destroyed for the tongue to break
Survivor's cannot bash someone off the tongue until the Survivor being pulled is paralyzed or hanging
Tongue attacks that fail to paralyze or hang a Survivor will use the shorter ability delay timer
Smoker tongue does damage every second while dragging paralyzed Survivors


Tank
Bashable objects now appear with a red glow
Tanks hitting a car with an alarm disables the alarm permanently
Tank frustration timer is only reset by hitting Survivors with rocks or fists
Reduced autoshotgun damage against Tanks


Witch
Witch spawns at the same % through the map for both teams
Avoids spawning within a certain % of the tank
Fixed an exploit where the Witch could be woken up and tricked into attacking Survivors
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Oh yeah.
 
B

Blizzard

Banned
Laggy server I'm playing on, and lots of iffy stuff so far. Smoker movement seems really slow aiming wise, and I haven't managed to melee anyone as hunter yet. :/
 
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