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It's fixed

YES! OH GOD YES

 

[McBacon]

I don't think Hunters should be able to pounce those caught on a smoker's tongue.

 

[Earthstrike]

Is there any way I could but this on steam using debit? (on steam)

 

[Shake Appeal]

I don't think Hunters should be able to pounce those caught on a smoker's tongue.

This falls under 'user error', though. It's stupid, damaging to the infected team, and it steals points from the smoker. It's like saying boomers shouldn't be able to vomit until they're within range.

 

[Giganticus]

also it's still worth pouncing a smoker's victim as a) hunters do more damage and b) leaves the smoker free to do other things.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Yeah, except that he'll have to wait 20/30 seconds (whatever it is) to 'do other things'. During which time the other survivors will easily wipe him and the immobile hunter out. Far better to pounce a second survivor, especially if the other two members of your team (boomer/hunter) are doing their jobs.

 

[Costanza]

Wow, the patch has some awesome fixes. I haven't played this in a month but I'll definitely be getting back into it now.

 

[manzo]

It's fixed

YESSSSSSSSSSS

 

[Amir0x]

Man that patch fixes so much, I hope to god the 360 patch is sometime in the next two weeks :lol

 

[manzo]

Man that patch fixes so much, I hope to god the 360 patch is sometime in the next two weeks :lol

I seriously fucking hope Valve time is not applicable here.

Ami, how big is your team? I'm playing with 2 other IRL friends, we're looking for a team to play against. We're quite experienced and we're looking for games that don't end 5000-6000 against 100. :/

 

[Walshicus]

Man that patch fixes so much, I hope to god the 360 patch is sometime in the next two weeks :lol

I'm dying for the patch [especially Smoker changes] and even the faintest snippets on *new* content.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Man that patch fixes so much, I hope to god the 360 patch is sometime in the next two weeks :lol

I'm not holding my breath, but at the same time I'm gonna be pretty pissed if it isn't here by the end of January.

Hopefully it's done and it's only MS certification adding the 'couple of weeks'.

 

[McBradders]

I can't tell you how many times not having a tank was the difference between a victory and a loss. When you're playing great teams, it can be so unbelievably frustrating to barely lose and realize you could have taken down a player or two with a tank.

I am sooo happy about that change.

Pretty much the only essential fix other than the glitches and "safe spots" for survivors IMO.

 

[Baloonatic]

Hunter

Easier to pounce a Survivor who is meleeing

Increased Minimum damage a Hunter pounce does


Smoker

Fixed Smoker tongue tolerance

Smoker now has to be killed or the tongue destroyed for the tongue to break

Survivors cannot bash someone off the tongue until the Survivor being pulled is paralyzed or hanging

Tongue attacks that fail to paralyze or hang a Survivor will use the shorter ability delay timer

Fixed cases where the ability timer was not using the correct time

Fixed case where you could point at a Survivor but not register a tongue hit

Fixed Smoker tongue not targeting and landing properly through PZ ghosts

Smoker tongue does damage every second while dragging paralyzed Survivors

HOLY SHIT VALVE I LOVE YOOOOOOOUUUUU!!

 

[Darklord]

Wait, wait. "Increased chance of getting the Tank or Witch". You can play as a witch now?? Or does that mean spawning an NPC witch?

 

[syllogism]

Wait, wait. "Increased chance of getting the Tank or Witch". You can play as a witch now?? Or does that mean spawning an NPC witch?

Obviously an AI witch. I had a witch AND a tank spawn on the top level of nm4 today.

 

[Baloonatic]

Team switching at the start of rounds in Versus is still broken

 

[syllogism]

Team switching at the start of rounds in Versus is still broken

It seems much rarer though. Unfortunately you now can't spectate to fix it.

 

[Mohonky]

I'm glad they've balanced out the Witch / Tank occurring for both teams. I've gone through games where we got crushed by a Tank at one point and then our turn came around and we got no such thing.

That shit used to happen a little too often for my liking.

 

[GotchaForce]

Has the generator in front of elevator been fixed?

 

[Sniper McBlaze]

I'm basically just repeating the previous guy, but it's kind of the only reliable way to get damage against good teams. If you pounce someone, you might get one or two swipes if you're LUCKY...typically you instantly get shot or meleed off. If you pounce someone who's vomited on, or when the other survivors can't see, you might have more success, but still not if people are grouped together.

Boomers can be shot or rendered mostly useless by bunched meleeing survivors.

Smokers are only really a threat on ledge/ladder points where someone can get pulled off a drop or left behind, and good players will probably avoid that (except maybe the one on top of no mercy 5).

I actually think it's fun to run in and out of trees in blood harvest. It's like the only time you actually get to be stealthy as a zombie.

But how do I defend myself from the survivor melee? Feels like I won't be able to get close enough.

 

[1-D_FTW]

They probably should go to an A-B-B-A format since this way teams would switch up and be surprised by tank/witch placements.

That said, both teams have advantages in knowing where tanks are gonna spawn. The infected should be able to plan a much better ambush so it's not totally one sided.

 

[Xdrive05]

The next thing on Valve's agenda (other than patching 360) should be to enable the other two scenarios for VS mode, then shortly thereafter they need to get some new scenarios out the door which work in all game modes. I imagine they're going to charge for them (even on the PC, as successful as this game has become), so hopefully they'll be cheap, like $10 for three new ones.

 

[VicViper]

Has the generator in front of elevator been fixed?

Fixed a few days/weeks after release in the PC version if I remember correctly.

 

[Keylime]

Fixed a few days/weeks after release in the PC version if I remember correctly.

Happened to me yesterday on the 360 version, so it's still there in the console version

 

[1-D_FTW]

The next thing on Valve's agenda (other than patching 360) should be to enable the other two scenarios for VS mode, then shortly thereafter they need to get some new scenarios out the door which work in all game modes. I imagine they're going to charge for them (even on the PC, as successful as this game has become), so hopefully they'll be cheap, like $10 for three new ones.

They don't charge for PC content because they believe extra content keeps a game active/fresh and they're able to then continuously sell it. Pretty novel concept. But just one of many reasons Valve > all.

 

[syllogism]

Smoker now seems to sometimes, though probably rarely, drag survivors through air instead of having them fall down. It's pretty funny.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Wait, wait. "Increased chance of getting the Tank or Witch". You can play as a witch now?? Or does that mean spawning an NPC witch?

What, you actually want to be able to play sitting in place and then charging only the person that got closest to you?

Make sense of wanting to play as the Witch for me.

 

[Crab Milk Mickey]

Happened to me yesterday on the 360 version, so it's still there in the console version

This massive patch (along with some of the previous PC updates) hasn't hit the 360 version yet, hence why it's still possible on consoles.

 

[StriKeVillain]

I cannot wait for the other 2 scenarios to be playable on Versus. I need more Left 4 Dead!

 

[Volcynika]

Yeah, except that he'll have to wait 20/30 seconds (whatever it is) to 'do other things'. During which time the other survivors will easily wipe him and the immobile hunter out. Far better to pounce a second survivor, especially if the other two members of your team (boomer/hunter) are doing their jobs.

Actually, while I haven't tested it, if a smoker's hold is broken before the survivor is hanging/paralyzed, his smoker tongue recharges just as quick as if he missed, though I haven't confirmed it by trying it on the infected team.

 

[Shake Appeal]

I'm probably going to take a shot at the 'Nothing Special' achievement with three friends shortly, and have a question for those who have it, or are in the know.

Does it 'save' your progress from map to map. That is, if we successfully get through the first map, but then get pounced or something on the second, can we just kill ourselves off and restart the second map until we get through to the third (and so on), or do we have to start the whole campaign from scratch?

Actually, while I haven't tested it, if a smoker's hold is broken before the survivor is hanging/paralyzed, his smoker tongue recharges just as quick as if he missed, though I haven't confirmed it by trying it on the infected team.

No, that's true. I'm just saying that if a hunter pounces someone a smoker is currently doing damage to, it's just a stupid/dick move.

 

[Pop On Arrival]

I'm probably going to take a shot at the 'Nothing Special' achievement with three friends shortly, and have a question for those who have it, or are in the know.

Nope, if you get hit, you and your buddies are gonna have to start over.

 

[Panda Bear]

Yeah I really want Death Toll and Dead Air for versus. And REAL versus, I don't mean that 2v2 bull.

 

[Salmonax]

It's fun watching people on pubs try to use the old map exploits and fail. I was hoping their solution to the crane would be a little more subtle than an invisible wall, but it's good that people have to actually play the panic events now.

 

[PunjabiPlaya]

Idk if its just my internet, but ever since the update I've been getting lag ingame even if I have full bars in the game. I tried playing TF2 with my current internet and it works flawlessly with 40ish ping, but L4D seems to always lag...

Anyone else getting a problem like this?

 

[myDingling]

Tongue attacks that fail to paralyze or hang a Survivor will use the shorter ability delay timer

I'm digging the Smoker buffs but I think I kind of disagree with this one. Part of the Smoker charm for me, which kind of parallels the boomer, is that your special attack is kind of a 1-chance operation before you have to recharge. It makes you play smarter this way and evens things out with the survivors.

But letting Smokers pull constantly might overpower them on one hand, and it may fool some players into thinking a Smoker can be in the middle of the battle since recharge time is low. I say keep it how it was or make the recharge time differ based on variables (i.e. interrupted by gunfire, dependent on how long the smoker pulled the survivor before being broken, etc.).

 

[Coverly]

Finished an entire campaign with 8% left of my original health.
Credits say I used no health packs or pills. No one healed me.

Why didn't I get the achievement for it then? Is this common or is there something I missed?

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Finished an entire campaign with 8% left of my original health.
Credits say I used no health packs or pills. No one healed me.

Why didn't I get the achievement for it then? Is this common or is there something I missed?

Were you playing on a dedicated server?

Also, you can use pills. It's an easy achievement.

I'm digging the Smoker buffs but I think I kind of disagree with this one. Part of the Smoker charm for me, which kind of parallels the boomer, is that your special attack is kind of a 1-chance operation before you have to recharge. It makes you play smarter this way and evens things out with the survivors.

But letting Smokers pull constantly might overpower them on one hand, and it may fool some players into thinking a Smoker can be in the middle of the battle since recharge time is low. I say keep it how it was or make the recharge time differ based on variables (i.e. interrupted by gunfire, dependent on how long the smoker pulled the survivor before being broken, etc.).

The Boomer can still run in and explode on everyone. The Smoker had to just hang out on the roof and play with his dick for 20 seconds until he could do something again. It's a good change.

 

[Tokubetsu]

Finished an entire campaign with 8% left of my original health.
Credits say I used no health packs or pills. No one healed me.

Why didn't I get the achievement for it then? Is this common or is there something I missed?

It happens. Can't tell you how many times ive beaten each campaign and yet I only have the achievement for Blood Harvest.

 

[Coverly]

Were you playing on a dedicated server?

Also, you can use pills. It's an easy achievement.

Co op offline yesterday. We'll try again today see if it registers it.
You can use pills? oh wow, that's makes a big difference.

For the guns only achivement, does it matter if you die or use bombs?

 

[aegies]

Man, the patch really changed the balance of power in versus. Last night we booted up and both teams were dead pretty much out of the gate in the second act of No Mercy. That was a first.

 

[Red Scarlet]

I went to see if it gave me Lamb 2 Slaughter, and this comes up when I click 'view stats' now..guess this is new to the update too:

And still no L2S.

 

[DaFish]

Stats baby!

Oh... My... Gawd...

 

[ezekial45]

I'm kinda disappointed that they didn't bring over any stats from before the patch. If any such stats were recorded that is.

 

[Oni Jazar]

Oh no stats. I think the whole stat tracking system turns people into douches.

 

[Salmonax]

Awesome stat tracking. I was a little disappointed when I got Zombie Genocidest because I could no longer tell what my running zombie total was. Too bad it's not retroactive, though.

 

[Twig]

On the one hand: yay, stats.

On the other: boo, fresh stats. D:

Oh no stats. I think the whole stat tracking system turns people into douches.

Being a douche turns people into douches. Stats are just a scapegoat.

Solution: Don't fucking play with douches, goddam.

 

[Volcynika]

Oh no stats. I think the whole stat tracking system turns people into douches.

Nah, stupid people will be stupid.

Spoiler

Maybe you're just mad I can kill more zombies than you!11!!1

 

[Twig]

Oh I was just informed by Cap'n that the stats just plain ol' aren't yet workin'. So.

Yay, I still hold out hope!