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The Official Left 4 Dead Thread

Red Scarlet

Member
Dacvak said:
That kinda blows, because my friend convinced me to get it for 360 instead of PC. I accepted because my Razer mouse just broke, I'm desperate, and I figured I could find people online to play with.

Please, GAF. I'm poor, spent money on L4D, and I want to put it to use. ;_;

There's a decent amount of 360'ers that still post in here, hopefully your post won't get lost in the thread though. :(
 

Blizzard

Banned
Red Scarlet said:
Well, played a vs game. The melee nerf feels more like fake random lag bursts than anything right now.

When both teams have 150-200 ms ping it hurts my ego when I'm trying to use the sniper rifle or melee pouncing hunters. :(

Also the elevator is still glitchy, I think. I used four pointblank autoshotgun blasts, and my 3 teammates might ALSO have been shooting in an elevator, and a normal female zombie finally died after hitting me like 4-5 times. And then a hunter dropped in and it took a while to kill that too.

And someone said they felt like the hunter's pounce is a bit "lagged" or has a little delay now, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.
 

Hero

Member
Red Scarlet said:
Well, played a vs game. The melee nerf feels more like fake random lag bursts than anything right now.

So with the melee nerf are the Survivors at a disadvantage now in combination with the buffs to the Infected?
 

Red Scarlet

Member
The other team still ran into the corner during the event on NM2, and it would sometimes let me melee 3+ times in a row no problem, other times after 1 melee I had to wait to do another. Doesn't seem like it does all that much, but I'd imagine that it's easier to pounce someone that is stationary and some zombies are coming at them.
 

MNC

Member
Blizzard said:
When both teams have 150-200 ms ping it hurts my ego when I'm trying to use the sniper rifle or melee pouncing hunters. :(

Also the elevator is still glitchy, I think. I used four pointblank autoshotgun blasts, and my 3 teammates might ALSO have been shooting in an elevator, and a normal female zombie finally died after hitting me like 4-5 times. And then a hunter dropped in and it took a while to kill that too.

And someone said they felt like the hunter's pounce is a bit "lagged" or has a little delay now, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.
I think that's just the source engine for the elevator. You're moving upwards thanks to a moving prop; Your bullets will seem to 'drop' because you're moving upwards. That's why I melee in the elevator.

It seems the melee works like this:

5 normal swings -> timer activated, you can keep on swinging but after each swing for I think a total of 3 swings, the timespan of no-melee is increased, and you need to recharge if you want 5 normal swings again. I don't know how long it takes to recover to normal again. Hell, I don't even know if any of this is correct, I only played one versus game after the update.
 
All the melee nerf actually means is that you just have to be smart when you use it. You can no longer just hold down right click like a doof and hope for the best.
 

madmook

Member
Dacvak said:
That kinda blows, because my friend convinced me to get it for 360 instead of PC. I accepted because my Razer mouse just broke, I'm desperate, and I figured I could find people online to play with.

Please, GAF. I'm poor, spent money on L4D, and I want to put it to use. ;_;
Send me a friend request, gamertag is madmook. L4D is the only game I play on my 360, and I usually try to play an hour or two every night. I'll always be up for any campaign and any difficulty as long as its co-op. I don't play versus mode.
 

Coverly

Member
madmook said:
Send me a friend request, gamertag is madmook. L4D is the only game I play on my 360, and I usually try to play an hour or two every night. I'll always be up for any campaign and any difficulty as long as its co-op. I don't play versus mode.

send me a friends request Dacvak:GT is Coverly (your gamertag is not in your profile so i couldn't invite you)

I'm the same as madmook, campaign only. If you see me on, send me a game invite anytime(unless i'm watching a movie), i'll drop any game i'm playing for it.
 

Ryuuga

Banned
The melee nerf was implemented due to a more realistic touch. They original idea was to make players wary of Bill's arthritis and teaches them to play without having to rely on spamming the melee button. Besides, with each forthcoming update, it'll become much more difficult for survivors to "survive" as originally intended. I can't wait for the MacGyver update when we'll be able to craft our weapons from various items littered throughout the post-apocalyptic urban/rural areas.
 
Ryuuga said:
The melee nerf was implemented due to a more realistic touch. They original idea was to make players wary of Bill's arthritis and teaches them to play without having to rely on spamming the melee button. Besides, with each forthcoming update, it'll become much more difficult for survivors to "survive" as originally intended. I can't wait for the MacGyver update when we'll be able to craft our weapons from various items littered throughout the post-apocalyptic urban/rural areas.
So Bill's arthritis is also contagious...wait, what if Bill's the famed fifth infected?
 

Ryuuga

Banned
PillowKnight said:
So Bill's arthritis is also contagious...wait, what if Bill's the famed fifth infected?

Nope, the only reason other survivors have it is for equality. If we needed a reason for other oh-so youthful survivors to have this nerf..hmm muscle spasm? Bill has been quite the double agent recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the screamer they originally cut from the game.
 

Sibylus

Banned
Ryuuga said:
Nope, the only reason other survivors have it is for equality. If we needed a reason for other oh-so youthful survivors to have this nerf..hmm muscle spasm? Bill has been quite the double agent recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the screamer they originally cut from the game.
Good 'ol fatigue is plausible enough, it's not like people can just swing their guns around all day, especially at hard targets.
 
Botolf said:
Good 'ol fatigue is plausible enough, it's not like people can just swing their guns around all day, especially at hard targets.
As an expert on muscle fatigue, I can say that people can in fact swing their weapons around all day long, assuming adrenaline is involved.
 

Ryuuga

Banned
Botolf said:
Good 'ol fatigue is plausible enough, it's not like people can just swing their guns around all day, especially at hard targets.

True enough while pills might prolong one's death and restore a bit of vitality, we might just see ointments in future updates.
 

Sibylus

Banned
PillowKnight said:
As an expert on muscle fatigue, I can say that people can in fact swing their weapons around all day long, assuming adrenaline is involved.
Maybe, but without resting your arms every once in a while?
 

Capndrake

Member
I just smacked all four full-health survivors off the NM5 roof as the second Tank during the finale :lol

The last two flew off with the same swing as well :lol
 

Holepunch

Member
Red Scarlet said:
The other team still ran into the corner during the event on NM2, and it would sometimes let me melee 3+ times in a row no problem, other times after 1 melee I had to wait to do another. Doesn't seem like it does all that much, but I'd imagine that it's easier to pounce someone that is stationary and some zombies are coming at them.


Ahh, that. I noticed that the melee hits vary too. I think there are 2 cooldowns at play, 1 of which is hidden. Starting fresh off you get 3 hits, then you have the first cooldown. If you swing again right after that one, it instantly goes down to another cooldown.

Meaning the game gives you three hits when you're fresh, then every hit after that is a cooldown. There is some sort of second hidden cooldown that after 10 seconds or so you can get 3 hits again.

Maybe Valve will clarify it better later, but I believe that is what is at work here.
 

Sibylus

Banned
Someone with the SDK just has to make a mode that incorporates stuff like this. It'd sort of be a modified Versus mode.

e:
- Francis dies
- Francis is automatically assigned to the Infected team (which is empty to start with, but has AI bots)
- Francis spawns as one of the special infected
 

Sibylus

Banned
The Portal Prelude guys just announced an L4D campaign they title "I Hate Mountains".

Here's hoping they forgo their lovely "make shit as hard as possible" design philosophy and focus on making it playable.
 

syllogism

Member
Botolf said:
The Portal Prelude guys just announced an L4D campaign they title "I Hate Mountains".

Here's hoping they forgo their lovely "make shit as hard as possible" design philosophy and focus on making it playable.
Looks promising, but I wish all the maps were mostly outdoors. It appears map 2 and 3 will be completely indoors. I hope at the very least it's considerably harder than the official campaigns.

http://www.ihatemountains.com/

e: these look pretty nice too

http://l4dmapdb.com/map:the-source
http://l4dmapdb.com/map:the-brutal-outcome
 

FerranMG

Member
Has some kind of stats page been made available for X360 users?

I recently found that Battlefield BC has one, and I'm absolutely loving it.
 

1-D_FTW

Member
Is anyone else having trouble connecting to Steam? First three times it just hung when I tried opening it. Last time it finally opened, but requested my password. So I typed it in and it said Steam was having trouble connecting.

I'm curious, because Steam was running like a dog again so I downloaded the latest beta client last night and this is really the first time I've tried logging in again.
 

Redd

Member
Dacvak said:
That kinda blows, because my friend convinced me to get it for 360 instead of PC. I accepted because my Razer mouse just broke, I'm desperate, and I figured I could find people online to play with.

Please, GAF. I'm poor, spent money on L4D, and I want to put it to use. ;_;

I'll play with you. Just add me and let me know your from gaf GT is Radical Redd
 
I think Valve is playing around with L4D/Steam Whores:
Steam Update News said:
March 27th, 2009

"Ubisoft Week" on Steam is nearing its end, but there's still time to take advantage of the best deal of the lot: the Ubisoft Classic Pack. Four awesome games for a price that's frankly ridiculous.

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This week we spent some time in San Francisco for the 2009 Game Developer's Conference. While there, we were able to meet in person some of the creators of the fantastic independent games that we've recently featured on Steam. Confidential to Michael, Auriea, and Laura: your idea for a mashup of The Path and Left 4 Dead sounded incredible after all those drinks, but could you get in touch to explain it again? Our memory is a little fuzzy. Something about a zombie wolf?

There's already an unused dog sound in the game. Why not?
 

madmook

Member
The Path mashup? LOL Zoey would fit right in, no need to even change her garb.

I would like to use the hunting rifle on that little shit in the white dress prancing about following me everywhere.
 
madmook said:
The Path mashup? LOL Zoey would fit right in, no need to even change her garb.

I would like to use the hunting rifle on that little shit in the white dress prancing about following me everywhere.
More plausible is the Zombie Wolf. I personally don't see how that would add variety to the flow of gameplay, but I'm sure Valve has all day thinking about this stuff.
 

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Hey. I sent everyone on this page an XBL friend request for L4D. My GT is Dacvak.

No one I send a request to is on right now. Does anyone want to play for 360?
 

madmook

Member
Dacvak said:
Hey. I sent everyone on this page an XBL friend request for L4D. My GT is Dacvak.

No one I send a request to is on right now. Does anyone want to play for 360?
I'll be on in about an hour.
 

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Damn. Damn!

That was fun as hell, Redd. Man, I'm so glad I bought this game. Can't wait to play the next episodes.

I might be on again later tonight.
 

Redd

Member
Dacvak said:
Damn. Damn!

That was fun as hell, Redd. Man, I'm so glad I bought this game. Can't wait to play the next episodes.

I might be on again later tonight.

Yeah I love the game. My most played on the 360. We'll try to knock out the last two campaigns later and retry the first one so you can get the achievements.:lol
 

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Teknoman said:
Off-topic, but wish more people would get together for GAF Gears 2 games (and Castle Crashers).

I'm 100% down for either of those, anytime. My GT is Dacvak. Reach me on AIM when you want to play. My AIM SN is Shigeru Miyamoto
 

mattso

Member
Dacvak said:
Hey. I sent everyone on this page an XBL friend request for L4D. My GT is Dacvak.

No one I send a request to is on right now. Does anyone want to play for 360?
send me a friend request
gt: fidel mattstro

Haven't been playing as much lately but most the time I play several times a week, down for both campaign or versus
 

Nabs

Member
Dacvak said:
I'm 100% down for either of those, anytime. My GT is Dacvak. Reach me on AIM when you want to play. My AIM SN is Shigeru Miyamoto
:lol

its too bad you picked the 360 over the PC. we get games going all the time
 

firex

Member
maybe my skills massively deterioriated after playing mass effect so much, but I completely sucked in campaign mode tonight when I was playing. well, ok, part of that is also I was close to 24 hours in a row awake and I'm too old to do that kind of stuff anymore unless drugs or alcohol are involved, and neither were in this case.
 
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