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[Oreoleo]

So anyone up for a game?

edit for the lazy: There's an update! Look at the last page!

 

[Sibylus]

So anyone up for a game?

I am. Gaf game gogogogogo!

 

[Nabs]

i'm down

 

[Oreoleo]

I am. Gaf game gogogogogo!

Alright we got two (fake edit:three! damn you 500 errors)! Anyone else around?

(I hate inviting a ton of people on my Steam friends list. Would rather get a few on the boards then fill in the gaps with invites)

 

[Blizzard]

I might be around for one game tonight, but it'd have to be at like 8:30-9:00 EST.

 

[Blue Geezer]

well that was interesting. definetly lower scores then you would normally see. if someone gets surrounded and puked on its a nightmare for them. normal zombies really get at them and boomers can get all 4 a lot easier now.

i like.

 

[Blizzard]

Well, I've heard from DaFish that the new melee blows. Maybe everyone will ragequit and stop playing Left 4 Dead because of it? :lol Friday I'll be available for games to try it myself.

 

[Sibylus]

I love the new melee, it encourages greater teamwork and punishes melee spammers. It also makes Versus hellishly hard, which is a good thing.

 

[Blue Geezer]

yup much prefer it like this.

did you know its kill sanjay day?

have a t shirt.

 

[DaFish]

Its needed I guess... Just got me off guard of how quick it kicked in, Boomer is gonna rape now!

Spoiler

I'll take that tea now Geezer; HAPPY Sanjay-day everyone!

 

[Blue Geezer]

you got it served but you then got shot through a wall.

such a terrible waste.

 

[ahoyhoy]

THANK YOU VALVE

The end of closet defense means that the fun can begin again. I'll be sure to try this baby out later to see if the improvements really have been made.

 

[Nabs]

i love the new melee as well. made the games more fun imo.

haha, folks are crying over @ steampowered. nice.

 

[Boonoo]

New melee is a lot of fun; it makes playing survivor pretty tense.

 

[PillowKnight]

THANK YOU VALVE

The end of closet defense means that the fun can begin again. I'll be sure to try this baby out later to see if the improvements really have been made.

This change does nothing to end closet defense.

So I take it worse melee actually makes versus more fun? I'm skeptical, guess i'll have to try it.

 

[Visualante]

So it's fun again?

 

[Sibylus]

Steampowered thread:

Is there a reason that you haven't picked actually good players to test your mods/additions to the game? Here's my argument:
You're letting your playtesters, obviously not the most skilled people at this game, test, because I've played and beaten every top team in US leagues so far except area 51, and haven't met a playtester YET. Why don't you let the people who are organized and skilled at the game do your playtesting?

Better yet, release the SDK and let this game do its own thing, because as far as competition and balanced play, the only game you ever got remotely correct was Counter Strike, but then again, who could mess that up? Here's a bomb, here's two perfectly even teams, now go.

The new melee, though a good general idea, is poorly done, yet again. You'd think that ONE of you guys play WoW, and would say "Hey maybe since we have a cool down, we'd let the person know when they get full melee ability back!" but no... We're left guessing when we get the ability to pull off 4 full melee swings before the ring of death shows up again.

IMO, it's time to say "Hey there are good teams out there, let's use them." No other game in history has tried it. Sorry, but whiney pubbers who saw the sweet cover on the rack at gamestop and decided to buy their first vALVE game last November aren't gonna point you in the direction of balanced and competitive gaming.

Please, PLEASE argue with me that this game isn't competitive, and I'll just post screenshots of the point system/scoreboard in reply to your stupid comments. Obviously you'd have to agree with the premise that, anything with two teams and a scoreboard is competitive in nature... Do you disagree?

Oh yeah, when those of you with 1000+ posts come mashing your keyboard in reply to my comments, please know that I have 74 posts and "Playing time:97.7 hrs past 2 weeks". I don't pub, and I don't waste my time contributing to a forum that vALVE barely even pays attention to.

WE know what we're doing, and WE want to contribute.
All you have to do is ask.

There's no reason a game like this should turn into a COD/Natural Selection/Quake III, that dies because of stupid ♥♥♥♥

TL;DR: He thinks that skill is the best qualification for a playtester :lol . What delicious tears.

 

[Volcynika]

So it's fun again?

It always was~

 

[Sibylus]

This change does nothing to end closet defense.

So I take it worse melee actually makes versus more fun? I'm skeptical, guess i'll have to try it.

It reduces the effectiveness of closet camping a little, but not by much.

I'd say it's definitely more fun. If you mess up, you can't just spam melee to dig yourself out anymore. As infected, there's less frustration, as human, it becomes more challenging and the payoff is greater for making it to the saferoom.

 

[marvelharvey]

Sounds cool, I'll try this new melee tweak out later. I'm guessing the effective turtling strategy is to have two teams of two survivors, one group meleeing, while the others rest, alternating every 5 seconds. This'll take some tight coordination to perfect and whilst good for friends, will probably worsen their already disadvantageous position.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Why was I not informed?

Digg had to tell me.

 

[Ventrue]

I kinda pruned a few of you from my friends list because it is getting crowded, but I just figured that since the games are all-GAF I only need a few of you on the list to play with all of you. So don't feel offended.

 

[1-D_FTW]

Steampowered thread:


TL;DR: He thinks that skill is the best qualification for a playtester :lol . What delicious tears.

That's a scary post. And I love how he ends it with his 50 hours a week thing... as if that's something to be proud of.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

That's a scary post. And I love how he ends it with his 50 hours a week thing... as if that's something to be proud of.

On average that's almost a work day if you worked seven days a week (seven hours a day avg)!

 

[fallengorn]

That's a scary post. And I love how he ends it with his 50 hours a week thing... as if that's something to be proud of.

Holy shit... 2 days out of the week he's literally been in front of his monitor. This guy poopsocks for realsies.

 

[syllogism]

Tank speed drops from 210 to 180ish while on fire. A rather ridiculous change.

The change was made in the patch which gave tank multihit.

 

[Blue Geezer]

Tank speed drops from 210 to 180ish while on fire. A rather ridiculous change.

The change was made in the patch which gave tank multihit.

thats old tbh.

long been known it slows you down in versus but makes campaign tanks twice the speed (well almost)


edit: just to prove it heres a comparison vid from 3rd feb. long before the update you are talking about on the 11/12 march

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0RWVqboVjI

 

[syllogism]

thats old tbh.

long been known it slows you down in versus but makes campaign tanks twice the speed (well almost)


edit: just to prove it heres a comparison vid from 3rd feb. long before the update you are talking about on the 11/12 march

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0RWVqboVjI

There's a console command that shows speed and it did not used to drop. I actually saw that video back then but the difference didn't appear to be that large. Also seemed rather stupid to do a video when it takes a simple command to check the speed.

e: apparently this was added in the jan 23 patch so this is indeed older

 

[Blue Geezer]

There's a console command that shows speed and it did not used to drop. I actually saw that video back then but the difference didn't appear to be that large. Also seemed rather stupid to do a video when it takes a simple command to check the speed.

e: apparently this was added in the jan 23 patch so this is indeed older

that would make more sense as thats when they fixed the whole tank burning issue so instead of being time based they did health based. i guess they added a slow down for tanks as well then.

makes no difference to me as it just highlights even more to not get hit with fire when you are a tank!

 

[Blizzard]

makes no difference to me as it just highlights even more to not get hit with fire when you are a tank!

This is great fun to accomplish as an already slow tank, especially when your team receives four pipe bombs or something on the finale (plus the starting items), and the other team gets 8-10 molotovs. :lol

 

[DaFish]

Why was I not informed?

Digg had to tell me.

thats hawt!

 

[Sanjay]

yup much prefer it like this.

did you know its kill sanjay day?

have a t shirt.

I gotcha your number! vengeance will be mine.


New updates really good, really got to stick together now.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Shacknews reporting Mike Booth at GDC presentation saying L4D selling at retail so far: 2.5 million. MILLIONS BWAHAHAHAHA. BWA:lol

 

[SundaySounds]

I gotcha your number! vengeance will be mine.


New updates really good, really got to stick together now.

Sticking together? In my gauntlet? I don't think so.

thats hawt!

Who is the fifth person?

 

[Shake Appeal]

Shacknews reporting Mike Booth at GDC presentation saying L4D selling at retail so far: 2.5 million. MILLIONS BWAHAHAHAHA. BWA:lol

This makes me hugely happy. Hopefully there'll be another spike come April 21st.

Also, Valve have really answered the charges of 360 negligence this time out (bar the length it took to get that first patch). I'm guessing great sales on the console eventually convinced them it was worth the effort to continue to support and grow that player base.

 

[MNC]

This makes me hugely happy. Hopefully there'll be another spike come April 21st.

Also, Valve have really answered the charges of 360 negligence this time out (bar the length it took to get that first patch). I'm guessing great sales on the console eventually convinced them it was worth the effort to continue to support and grow that player base.

So is Valve at GDC?



Is Episode 3 there? :'(

 

[ThaiGrocer]

So is Valve at GDC?



Is Episode 3 there? :'(

At least Mike Booth is there talking about L4D and it's evolution from Counter-Strike. Most likely more from Valve are there. as for ep3, give up now. the most you will likely not get is more artwork and preliminary development stuff.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Haven't they suggested Episode 3 is bigger in scope than 1 or 2 were? Given that it's Valve, I wouldn't expect any big reveals until 2010. But I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Daigoro]

wow, they actually did it.

melee fatigue. i like the diea of nerfinh it somehow, i just hope this works well in reality.

i really need to get back to some PC L4D soon. almost ready for a break from RE5...

 

[Varna]

wow, they actually did it.

melee fatigue. i like the diea of nerfinh it somehow, i just hope this works well in reality.

I just had the funnest game of Left 4 Dead I can remember. I don't want to exaggerate, but it was 100% because of the new melee system.

You can still do closet tactics, but only for short periods of time and you have to keep MOVING once your character is exhausted, it takes a great amount of team coordination. This tweak also gets rid of those awful moments when you just know you are either going to sit in a corner as a survivor and do nothing but meele or just going to keep rushing the survivors is some vain attempt to do any kind of damage (like the NM elevator sequence).

 

[Armitage]

I think the Tank is much too weak now. If your team knows what it's doing a tank isn't much of a challenge at all.

 

[Volcynika]

I think the Tank is much too weak now. If your team knows what it's doing a tank isn't much of a challenge at all.

The tank is essentially weak by itself anyways. That's why the other infected have to help him out.

(If you're talking about versus)

 

[Sibylus]

I think the Tank is much too weak now. If your team knows what it's doing a tank isn't much of a challenge at all.

The Tank is downright brutal if a Boomer can get involved.

I got the second Tank on BH5 today, and nobody helped. At all. The other three people were spawned but were just standing around (the smoker was on the house's roof looking around like an idiot). When I died, they didn't do much to stop the survivors' escape.

Buncha' crapheads :lol

 

[Madman]

How many hits in a row can you do before becoming fatigued? I have the 360 version, so I won't be able to try it for awhile. I can't wait to try it though since I've been hoping this would get added.

 

[Dacvak]

Anyone up for a 360 game? I've never played with anyone yet. =(

Spoiler

No one played me in GoW2, either. Do I offend?

 

[Dacvak]

*Twenty Minutes Ago*
Anyone up for a 360 game? I've never played with anyone yet. =(

Spoiler

No one played me in GoW2, either. Do I offend?

Why do you hate me, GAF? ;_;

 

[Varna]

How many hits in a row can you do before becoming fatigued? I have the 360 version, so I won't be able to try it for awhile. I can't wait to try it though since I've been hoping this would get added.

It's quiet a few... maybe 10 strikes?

 

[RocketDarkness]

It's quiet a few... maybe 10 strikes?

It starts setting in after 5, when starting fresh.

 

[SundaySounds]

Anyone up for a 360 game? I've never played with anyone yet. =(

Spoiler

No one played me in GoW2, either. Do I offend?

I think I see your problem.....

 

[Dacvak]

I think I see your problem.....

That kinda blows, because my friend convinced me to get it for 360 instead of PC. I accepted because my Razer mouse just broke, I'm desperate, and I figured I could find people online to play with.

Please, GAF. I'm poor, spent money on L4D, and I want to put it to use. ;_;