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So am I understanding the reviews properly when I take it that "4 scenarios" is 4 levels?

As in the demo of the game was half the game in terms of levels? Or was the demo a single scenario consisting of multiple chapters?
 
Glad to see those reviews, but one note from Jason Ocampo of IGN was that he mentioned you can play through a scenario in 20-30 minutes.

I'm sorry, but that's just plain bullshit.


The tiny 1.5 demo alone took me 20-30 minutes the first time through it. When I playtested the game at Valve, we were playing on normal and one scenario took is 1.5-2 hours total.
 
RubxQub said:
So am I understanding the reviews properly when I take it that "4 scenarios" is 4 levels?

As in the demo of the game was half the game in terms of levels? Or was the demo a single scenario consisting of multiple chapters?
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The demo was supposedly 1.5 out of 20 levels. Every 5 levels is a movie/campaign.

At least that's what I keep hearing.
 
Playing through the demo on expert (the only way to play, bitches!) took a long time from start to finish. Probably an hour.

If that's just 1.5 out of 20, then I have no problems whatsoever with this game's length.
 
dLMN8R said:
The tiny 1.5 demo alone took me 20-30 minutes the first time through it. When I playtested the game at Valve, we were playing on normal and one scenario took is 1.5-2 hours total.
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You must be really good then. It took me like 3 hours to beat the demo the first time through.
 
Length really shouldn't be such a strong point of debate. The game is short. If the game is replayable, then Valve has succeeded in what they set out to do. If not, then they failed. Make sure that people know that's the intent of the game. The game is short for a reason.
 
fallout said:
Length really shouldn't be such a strong point of debate. The game is short. If the game is replayable, then Valve has succeeded in what they set out to do. If not, then they failed. Make sure that people know that's the intent of the game. The game is short for a reason.
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Length certainly isn't the selling point, but if I had already played 50% vs 20% vs 8% of the game already, that makes a pretty big difference.

I played the demo alone on Expert for at least 5-8 hours total, so I know the thing is highly replayable, I just want to know to what extent.

I'm almost certainly getting the game regardless.
 
Walked into my EB, asked if they were expecting it tomorrow or wednesday, he tells me to hold on a minute.. goes into the back room and comes out with a copy of L4D in hand.

Today's a good day. :D
 
madmook said:
Er... so you stood around for two and a half hours?
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Oh, I guess I should have explained.
there were many, many retries until we actually got the end.
 
DeadCell said:
Walked into my EB, asked if they were expecting it tomorrow or wednesday, he tells me to hold on a minute.. goes into the back room and comes out with a copy of L4D in hand.

Today's a good day. :D
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WHAT THE FUCK!?!

Where are all these horrible awesome EB stores around me?!
 
So...

7 more hours to unlock.

Guess I should download this then (Steam ID: Reisadan)













<-(is good at hiding excitemenTOE_#$%^_#$U%NW#<%N)
 
madmook said:
So you can get through the demo on expert every single time you play it?
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Of course not, but I can get through it easily enough to want another difficulty. Me and my friend and two AIs can make it through on expert. I think the retail game will be harder though.
 
That reminds me, I need to get a microphone for the PC. Has anyone offered suggestions in this thread?
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I would like to know this as well. Right now I am using a cheap ps2 headset and would like to have a dedicated mic.
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I always recommend Sennheiser. You'll spend a bit more or a lot more depending on your budget, but the headphone/mic quality on mine has always been fantastic. I paid around $50 for mine off Amazon. I'd check the model, but I'm at work right now.

The only complaint I have is that the foam underneath the headband started to come loose. A little double-sided tape fixed it up.
 
DeadCell said:
Walked into my EB, asked if they were expecting it tomorrow or wednesday, he tells me to hold on a minute.. goes into the back room and comes out with a copy of L4D in hand.

Today's a good day. :D
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You suck.

Lucky bastard :(

edit: if you got the pc version, did it come with a mousepad?
 
Damn I don't know if I should get this game or not. I mean it's fun but if getting from point A to point B is all it is, then it can get very repetitive. Are there any puzzles you have to solve? Will Valve put any other boss in the game? The smoker is so cheesy, grabbing you when it's not even in line of sight.

I hope someone can mod RE characters into this game ASAP.
 
So is there multiple objectives or is just run from safe room to safe room in the full game? Ive put 5 hours or so into the demo, it is fun but I can only run through the same path with random respawn enemies for so long. I hope the Mod community adds multiple objectives and many many pathways to get to those objectives.
 
Sniper McBlaze said:
Of course not, but I can get through it easily enough to want another difficulty. Me and my friend and two AIs can make it through on expert. I think the retail game will be harder though.
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Again the demo is 1.5 levels of a scenario. How beat up are you by the end of that 1.5 levels? Keep in mind you have to keep going for another 3.5 stages.
 
madmook said:
I refuse to believe that you find the current expert difficulty to be any sort of easy.
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Multiplayer is harder because people don't know how to play. On single player I have yet to fail the first level (haven't played the second level onn single player).

The point is: with proper co-op, expert is easy. The game deserves a nightmare difficulty.
 
Sinatar said:
Again the demo is 1.5 levels of a scenario. How beat up are you by the end of that 1.5 levels? Keep in mind you have to keep going for another 3.5 stages.
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Very true. I'll probably play this game through on advanced the first time.
 
RJT said:
Multiplayer is harder because people don't know how to play. On single player I have yet to fail the first level (haven't played the second level onn single player).

The point is: with proper co-op, expert is easy. The game deserves a nightmare difficulty.
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The first part is easy. It's on level 2 the shit hits the fan.
 
Sniper McBlaze said:
Of course not, but I can get through it easily enough to want another difficulty. Me and my friend and two AIs can make it through on expert. I think the retail game will be harder though.
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I've heard that getting through an entire campaign on expert is much harder than getting through the relatively short demo.

Remember that health carries over from level to level, and sloppy playing early on will have you basically using saferoom health as soon as you get it on subsequent levels, leaving no spares for those long 3rd and 4th stages (on expert extra health kits rarely spawn, just pills). Also the longer you play a campaign the more data a director can gather on you and use that to put more pressure on you.

Also if you play with AI survivors I wouldn't judge the difficulty based on that. The AI rarely makes mistakes, stays with you all the time, shoots the smoker/hunter off of you quickly, and uses their health kits on you. They are 10x better than most people playing this game. That's really what makes multiplayer so much fun... you have to cover other people's mistakes as well as your own, and you also can't rely on them to save your ass 100% of the time like the AI survivors.

Having said all that, I'd still like to see one more difficulty above expert as well. Would also like to see a limited life mode.
 
vertopci said:
You suck.

Lucky bastard :(

edit: if you got the pc version, did it come with a mousepad?
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Picked up the 360 version. :)

Just waiting for my buddy to get his copy before turning it on. It'll be nice to finally see what comes after that damn subway after playing the demo SO many freaking times.
 
4 campaigns should be more than enough to hold you over until a new one comes or mods, heck I have 27hours logged on the demo already, not tired of it either.
 
Im in a dilemma now, either I

A] Buy it off Steam for 44.99, And download it.

B] Go to Circuit City and buy it Wednesday, for 2 dollars off. (And Hope I get the mousepad)

C] Wait till black friday, and hope for some kind of deal so i can snag both L4D and Orange Box PC.

Any Suggestions GAF?
 
xKilltheMx said:
Im in a dilemma now, either I

A] Buy it off Steam for 44.99, And download it.

B] Go to Circuit City and buy it Wednesday, for 2 dollars off. (And Hope I get the mousepad)

C] Wait till black friday, and hope for some kind of deal so i can snag both L4D and Orange Box PC.

Any Suggestions GAF?
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A, no tax
 
the first time i finished the demo on normal, it took like an hour
the first time i finished the demo on hard, it took like 2 hours because we kept dying

now, it takes like 30-40 mins to finish the demo on hard because we know where everything is
 
gamespy gave it a 4.5/5

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/turtle-rock-project/930737p1.html
One need only look at Left 4 Dead for proof that the gaming landscape is fundamentally changing. This is a game that was obviously envisioned from the very beginning as a co-op experience, even modeling its single-player campaign to mirror that approach. The inventive and highly entertaining competitive multiplayer mode just adds to the experience, and we're looking forward to seeing what Valve's got planned for the game's future. Out of all the titles that have shaped the Year of Living Cooperatively, this may be the best experience of them all.

Pros/cons:

Pros: Intense, nerve-wracking experience; co-op gets even better as you add players; innovative, entertaining multiplayer mode.

Cons: No real narrative in place; single-player offerings pale in comparion to co-op play; no searching for dedicated servers.
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btw, you could search for dedicated servers on the PC, don't know why its a con
 
xKilltheMx said:
Im in a dilemma now, either I

A] Buy it off Steam for 44.99, And download it.

B] Go to Circuit City and buy it Wednesday, for 2 dollars off. (And Hope I get the mousepad)

C] Wait till black friday, and hope for some kind of deal so i can snag both L4D and Orange Box PC.

Any Suggestions GAF?
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A for sure. I'm in the same spot, but going to CC just isn't worth it.
 
Anony said:
wait, what's this about getting a mousepad with the pc verison
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Somebody has the game already and there was a mousepad, dvd and poster in it. It said limited edition on it...but as far as I know there was no LE bundle, so Im assuming this is a limited run.
 
wayward archer said:
I've heard that getting through an entire campaign on expert is much harder than getting through the relatively short demo.

Remember that health carries over from level to level, and sloppy playing early on will have you basically using saferoom health as soon as you get it on subsequent levels, leaving no spares for those long 3rd and 4th stages (on expert extra health kits rarely spawn, just pills). Also the longer you play a campaign the more data a director can gather on you and use that to put more pressure on you.

Also if you play with AI survivors I wouldn't judge the difficulty based on that. The AI rarely makes mistakes, stays with you all the time, shoots the smoker/hunter off of you quickly, and uses their health kits on you. They are 10x better than most people playing this game. That's really what makes multiplayer so much fun... you have to cover other people's mistakes as well as your own, and you also can't rely on them to save your ass 100% of the time like the AI survivors.

Having said all that, I'd still like to see one more difficulty above expert as well. Would also like to see a limited life mode.
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This.
 
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