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The Official NeoGAF Groundbreaking Electronic Music Thread
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You guys probably know this one already, but his Boiler Room set is great as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjoCY3s-Y50
When we have friends over at home and need some background music, this is always the first set I play.
I'm thinking about upgrading my dj set (Numark Pro) in not too long... I'm feeling really restricted, mainly due two aspects: 1) not enough knobs/buttons for everything 2) the pitch slider is really wonky, short and relative cheap quality, it makes it really, really hard to beat match preciously (even moving the slider 1mm can cause a 0.20 bpm difference...).
I've heard good things about the Traktor S2/S4. I (bedroom) dj entirely digital btw. Budget $500ish. Any recommendations?
I've heard good things about the Traktor S2/S4. I (bedroom) dj entirely digital btw. Budget $500ish. Any recommendations?
Yeah, go for the Traktor S2/S4! The most cost-efficient of the current market + it comes with the Traktor software. If you're willing to put more money into it then this one http://serato.com/hardware/pioneer-ddj-sx
Johnlenham
Member
Yeah Id go Traktor aswell. I mean they make the software so its pretty much perfect as is and yeah the sliders on the pro are fucking wank. Traktor is like night and day by comparison.
Just CD-Js and a mixer are becoming a lost art in the world of controllers.
The DDJ-SX is a tad too expensive for me I'm afraid. Right now my preference goes to the S2 (I can't justify another $400 for the S4...). There are a few other sub-$400 controllers that seem decent, but quickly scanning through some reviews it seems everyone seems to praise the Traktor S2/S4, it seems the build quality is very good. I have to admit that it doesn't seems to have that many knobs and buttons, but I could always buy a separate device for it.
Hearing that the slider difference is night and day difference makes me happy though!
Honestly I'd love to have two CDJ's plus a mixer. But the cheapest CDJ's I can find are at least $200 per (Gemini CDJ 300, and that's without a mixer) Pioneer are mostly $1000+. I believe I would have more value in a more decent digital controller instead of entry level CDJ's (correct me if I'm wrong)
Going to look around more, but thanks for the input guys. Really appreciated.
I'm currently using the S2 and am happy with it. The sliders are excellent, though the channel sliders could be a little longer in my opinion. The knobs feel great and are responsive, and the sound card is exceptional. The controller has locked up on me on several occasions, though. Turning it on and off will usually fix it, but it's really, really annoying and disappointing.
I'll be buying my first set of CDJs in the coming months, can't wait! Finally getting our own apartment in a month or so which will finally afford me the space. Time to start researching that. The only ones I've used are the Pioneer 2000 and I really don't think I can spend $3,500 right off the bat
I'll be buying my first set of CDJs in the coming months, can't wait! Finally getting our own apartment in a month or so which will finally afford me the space. Time to start researching that. The only ones I've used are the Pioneer 2000 and I really don't think I can spend $3,500 right off the bat
Didn't know that already (I honestly haven't looked him up much since I saw him, despite always intending to) but will check it out! Do they normally have those for audio download as well?
Sadly, yes. I honestly didn't think CDJs would have such a relatively short lifespan. The 1000s were barely around 10 years, which seems bizarre when thinking about it.
I might be just like the Technics 1200 luddites before me, but I think there's something lost with the CDJs moving from disc-only players to something more akin to a PC-less MIDI controller of sorts.
On a better note though, apparently prices of the CDJ-1000s have dropped significantly in the last few months with a friend of a friend struggling to get rid of a pair for $1000AUD. Having said that, my brother sold his last week with a fairly high-end Denon mixer for $1650 so whatever.
As per my statement above, be on the lookout for second-hand 1000s. There's a lost art in carrying around a folder of CDs vs. a USB stickI'm currently using the S2 and am happy with it. The sliders are excellent, though the channel sliders could be a little longer in my opinion. The knobs feel great and are responsive, and the sound card is exceptional. The controller has locked up on me on several occasions, though. Turning it on and off will usually fix it, but it's really, really annoying and disappointing.
I'll be buying my first set of CDJs in the coming months, can't wait! Finally getting our own apartment in a month or so which will finally afford me the space. Time to start researching that. The only ones I've used are the Pioneer 2000 and I really don't think I can spend $3,500 right off the bat
Failing that, from what I can tell the 900s are almost every bit as good as the 2000s but have the traditional Pioneer display from the 1000s. If I had to buy a new set, I'd definitely go those (but still sticking with my 1000s for life, doubt I'd ever sell them).
I don't think there are audio downloads for them, but I could be wrong.
The YT vids are fun too though, it's like having a DJ playing in your living room, you can even mock the people behind him just like in a real club lol.
Johnlenham
Member
CDJs are dying because there insanely expensive.
I mean when you can almost buy two second hand Technics for the price on one cdj you know you have problems!
The S4 is probably not worth what youll get out of it imo. Also the lack of "knobs" is because the top the can be changed to something like 12 different types of effects on the fly.
Also this EP is really good. Infact I like nearly everything on Hiven
Kresy-Basement Trax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pYIhlKky_wI
I mean when you can almost buy two second hand Technics for the price on one cdj you know you have problems!
The S4 is probably not worth what youll get out of it imo. Also the lack of "knobs" is because the top the can be changed to something like 12 different types of effects on the fly.
Also this EP is really good. Infact I like nearly everything on Hiven
Kresy-Basement Trax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pYIhlKky_wI
That too, but it was a reasonable filter for sorting out the people serious about DJing to those who weren't. Not saying those who were serious weren't dropping cash on cheaper alternatives, but it's always easy to see who cuts the mustard on a pair of 1000s
thezerofire
Banned
what would you recommend?
I'm actually thinking of buying a turntable set. Should I get some second hand Technics? I know they have a historical presence... but that's all I really know about them.
I'm doing this for two reasons, one I want to start sampling old records. Two I'd like to be able to have fun with the dying art of turntablism. I just really find midi controllers to be a turnoff. Especially when they are being used as the primary driver.
I'm doing this for two reasons, one I want to start sampling old records. Two I'd like to be able to have fun with the dying art of turntablism. I just really find midi controllers to be a turnoff. Especially when they are being used as the primary driver.
I really want a CDJ as well though... maybe one day...
Johnlenham
Member
dp..
Johnlenham
Member
If you have the money, Traktor S2.
If you just want to trail it, Numark Mix track Pro as they can be got for like £100 or less on ebay.
This is very IMO though.
Yeah as a consumer product for sure, I have no idea though how someone is supposed to learn to use CDJs if they are mad money outside of a club environment.
Saying all this my friend has just picked up a CDJ tonight haha.
Also if you are buying decks, make sure they are DIRECT DRIVE but yeah like thabiz said, Technics are the best bang for buck by far but if you can get some direct drives decks for reaaaaaly cheap they may be worth a go.
What exactly is the S2? Is it like a CDJ in functionality but plays off of mp3 files?
Might be worth it since my collection is digital, though I'm really wanting to start getting vinyl, not to mention just practicing the dying art for my own enjoyment.
I think I'm younger than most of you guys in here, but fuck my generations taste in all this new-age DJ, and over-produced synth shit.
Might be worth it since my collection is digital, though I'm really wanting to start getting vinyl, not to mention just practicing the dying art for my own enjoyment.
I think I'm younger than most of you guys in here, but fuck my generations taste in all this new-age DJ, and over-produced synth shit.
Johnlenham
Member
Yeah a friend who had never seen them before described them as "mini cdjs"
You plug it into a laptop, fire up traktor and you load your songs into each side and off you go.
Not going to lie I see them as vastly superior to CDJ, as I see them as the stop gap between Vinyl and full digital.
Baleoce
Member
Any of ElectroMusic GAF know the best way to buy into the Komplete Native Instruments series?
http://www.gear4music.com/Recording...-Maschine-MK2-Black-and-Komplete-9-Bundle/HLF This is £749 (Maschine + Komplete 9) for website members. Works out about 200 quid better than buying from the NI site. Is it worth waiting for a sale, or is this a good entry method to get me on the Komplete ladder? It also beats NI's own crossgrade discounts for Maschine to K9 afaik.
http://www.gear4music.com/Recording...-Maschine-MK2-Black-and-Komplete-9-Bundle/HLF This is £749 (Maschine + Komplete 9) for website members. Works out about 200 quid better than buying from the NI site. Is it worth waiting for a sale, or is this a good entry method to get me on the Komplete ladder? It also beats NI's own crossgrade discounts for Maschine to K9 afaik.
Tessela killing it as usual <3
Side-note: Truss and Tessela are the best active brother duo in electronica at the moment, goddamn.
Yuuuuup. Ima get me a set. I might just buy one to start, we'll see.
Now I need to figure out what controller to use.
thezerofire
Banned
Disclosure?
is the set available to dl anywhere?
Also these guys:
But hardly active. And IMO only really had a few good tracks. So basically the only qualifier is that they're brothers, not that they're great.
what. Hitting the pipe again?
thezerofire
Banned
can you guys post names and not just pictures?
I mean currently. Didn't they break up/retire at the end of last year (again)?
Meus Renaissance
Member
Can you identify the instruments being used at the start here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV5rNcD7PEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV5rNcD7PEY
SecretMoblin
Member
Baleoce
Member
Well on the NI website the crossgrade total for Maschine to Komplete 9 would be £499 + £339 = £838
And on gear4music I can get them both for £749. It's base Komplete, not Ultimate. But I think outside of sale season this might be my best bet? My original plan was just to get on the Komplete ladder via crossgrade. Not fussed about Ultimate right now, as the extras are things I personalyl can't justify the extra money on, and I was going to get the Spitfire Albion set for orchestral instruments.
New Crystal Method on iTunes
No idea if it's any good or not. Given that it's probably nothing like Vegas, I'd say "not".
No idea if it's any good or not. Given that it's probably nothing like Vegas, I'd say "not".
Oh ok, I guess I had that ultimate edition in my mind. Anyways, go for it. Native's stuff is always pro.
Baleoce
Member
Yeah the last few months I've been using komplete elements along with their audio interface, and it convinced me to take the punt. Really loving these plugins.
holy crap. they're still around.
If anyone's around, I'm going to be mixing live for a bit at http://mixlr.com/fruitpreservative/
Have the day off and am cleaning up my collection.
Miksu, expect a PM soon.
Have the day off and am cleaning up my collection.
Miksu, expect a PM soon.