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The Official "Real-Time with Bill Maher" Thread
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Autumn Wind
Member
Even if Bill's guests don't click, I love his monologue, new rules, and overtime.
zero shift
Banned
I'd say Ron Paul is probably just as selfish. He just leans more toward traditional conservative instead of an outright Randiate.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Wow, HuffPo guest was shit. lol
And apparently Jon Huntsman's daughter. I didn't make the connecting until later when I Google-searched for...umm...her political commentary. Yea, that.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
Poor Bernie. Talked over by a platitude-machine (Millennials! uncertainty!) and an incomprehensibly confident ignoramus (Bullish on Bush!).
Every current affairs show could be improved with more policy experts, or real journalists, or engaging intellectuals. But empty pundits fill the regular seats on these type of shows for the drama factor; got to chase them ratings, I guess.
Every current affairs show could be improved with more policy experts, or real journalists, or engaging intellectuals. But empty pundits fill the regular seats on these type of shows for the drama factor; got to chase them ratings, I guess.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
Holy shit, that was an annoying episode. I don't know how that Moore simpleton manages to wipe his own ass, much less be cast repeatedly on this show. Maybe Bill struck out on bedeviling people this week, but shit if he didn't sandbag the fuck out of the panel so he could be the wisest ass in the room. I didn't even make it to New Rules before erasing this, lest it infect the rest of my DVR.
That Moore fellow just kept interrupting and yelling. It was grating.
That 19-year-old guest reminded me of an idea I've had recently. Maher should do a show with non-pundits and non-celebrities. Just open up a drawing or something and invite regular people to discuss matters on his show. It would be a waste of time but could potentially be a nice break from his usual panels.
Also, LOL @ your avatar.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Moore can make for good TV when they have someone on that can shut him up. Bernie Sanders is not that person.
Bernie had good arguments, it's just that Moore kept fucking talking over him.
Watching the episode again. Almost from the get go Steve Moore tried to shout down whenever Bernie was having his say. Then there was Abby Huntsman who eye-rolled whenever Bernie had something to say about raising taxes on the rich, or runaway spending under Bush. I don't know if any other senator would have been treated this level of contempt if there weren't a socialist.
Bill needs to tell Steve to pull his head in or not invite him back on the show. He has been an interrupting douche before and that behaviour derails the quality of the panel conversation. I could tell that Bill felt like he was re-living the last time Ron Christie was invited on the show.
Bill needs to tell Steve to pull his head in or not invite him back on the show. He has been an interrupting douche before and that behaviour derails the quality of the panel conversation. I could tell that Bill felt like he was re-living the last time Ron Christie was invited on the show.
I don't deny there's truth to this. I just hope it's not true. We don't need an Alan Colmes of the right.
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
Yeah, but I might not. That's what happens when I get annoyed for 40 minutes straight. I eventually just say, "why am I wasting my time with this shit?"
Stephanie Cutter on Real Time with Bill Maher tomorrow. Also, Saru Jayaraman is on to spit hot fire about the need to raise the minimum wage for restaurant employees - something anti minimum wage GAF should watch.
But in usual Real Time style, David Stockman will be on to talk about the crushing debt and the gold standard.
But in usual Real Time style, David Stockman will be on to talk about the crushing debt and the gold standard.
BigJonsson
Member
He didn't say anything dumb, actually said some smart things, but most of his points were just differences of opinion and not crazy tea party talk
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Is the episode worth watching? I normally watch the show to see teabaggers get owned. That and New Rules.
BigJonsson
Member
I agree. Everyone on the panel was sane.
I remember this one. Is there a video available?Watching the episode again. Almost from the get go Steve Moore tried to shout down whenever Bernie was having his say. Then there was Abby Huntsman who eye-rolled whenever Bernie had something to say about raising taxes on the rich, or runaway spending under Bush. I don't know if any other senator would have been treated this level of contempt if there weren't a socialist.
Bill needs to tell Steve to pull his head in or not invite him back on the show. He has been an interrupting douche before and that behaviour derails the quality of the panel conversation. I could tell that Bill felt like he was re-living the last time Ron Christie was invited on the show.
Once again: boooooooooooooooooooo!
Yeah, what a weird episode.
zero shift
Banned
Was it just me or was Bill being rather dicksih to Saru? He kept stating "We'll get to your issue soon." and "Come on lighten up the joke wasn't that bad!" After she stated that the Cuban thing was stupid to talk about.
Unfortunately GAF is hates tipped workers with a passion. They somehow believe that the friends they have that make $200 in one day is the average tipped worker. As someone who worked in the restaurant industry I was disgusted with some of the practices.
Unfortunately GAF is hates tipped workers with a passion. They somehow believe that the friends they have that make $200 in one day is the average tipped worker. As someone who worked in the restaurant industry I was disgusted with some of the practices.
I think gaf hates the practice of having to tip waiters in the first place. Raise the minimum wage, raise the prices, and end mandatory/obligatory tipping.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
I agree, it looked like Bill was trying to get him to say stupid stuff and he wasn't having any of it.
zero shift
Banned
That's what I would think but many of them state that restaurant workers get paid way too much as is.
Eh. Stockman was thankfully not loud and rude like so many right-wingers on the show feel the need to be to compensate for their lunacy, but he still spewed a lot of bullshit. Minimum wage shouldn't be raised and would be bad for business (essentially defeating the purpose of the minimum wage, which is essentially anti-minimum wage), we shouldn't rely on government to solve the climate change crisis (wtf?), etc. Nuttery is nuttery.
BigJonsson
Member
Yea, Amy Holmes didn't make me want to pull my hair out for a change.......no yelling mostly due to Boston
Yup, the interview kind of pissed me off. If you're going to bring someone on, then the least you could do is let them speak. He's pretty unreasonable when it comes to religion, Israel, food and vaccines. The dude was well on his way to making legitimate points about the demonizing of Islam and it's negative impact on innocent Muslims, ie. it bolsters and perpetuates Islamophobia, but Bill is too big of an Islamophobe to listen to words that supports that position.
Maher was wrong to blame Islam before we know more about the motives and connections. At least the younger brother seemed to merely flaunt his religion similar to Cam'ron wearing a diamond studded Jesus piece.
That Levin guy didn't say that, tho...he went into the tired "liberal bullshit" routine of explaining how only a tiny percentage of Muslims are actual terrorists and that every religion in history has been used to justify bad shit, which was easy for Maher to shit on. He couldn't even bring himself to admit that a Book of Islam musical wouldn't fly, that was just pathetic and far from "making legitimate points".
He never got a chance to expand his thoughts. He did in fact make some legitimate points, such as A) The overwhelming majority of Muslims are upstanding citizens B) The fact that any ideology is capable of being perverted and exploited for evil C) That demonizing Islam and Muslims in general, like Maher is doing, instead of the individuals committing the evil deeds, is misguided and feeds into anti-Muslim sentiment that innocent Muslims have to endure. Every time he would begin to touch on one of these points, Bill Maher would interrupt him and completely shut down any opportunity for a greater point to be made. I agree that the point you mentioned was laughable, but the rest of his arguments were relatively sound.
The current violence of Islam has less to do about the religion, and more to do with the recent historical instability of the Middle East, the regional culture, theocrastic government structures, widespread poverty and constant foreign meddling which makes it easy for extremists to craft a narrative where the West is to blame for the region's current state. Regardless of whether religion is in the equation or not, countries undergoing this concoction of circumstances are bound to experience evil. It's no coincidence that the more economically sound, secular and socially stable a prominently Muslim country is, the more tolerant and less extreme it is in terms of its ideologies and practices. It's disingenuous and dangerous to suggest that Islam, and not the previously mentioned underlying factors, are to blame for the atrocities we see within Islam, and that's exactly what people like Bill Maher are doing. It's bigotry pure and simple.
Content aside, the interview was pretty awful because Maher didn't really let the guy say anything. He could have just spent the time saying what he wanted to and saved the guy a trip.
Panel was good though. I always like it when he has Rushdie on. It felt like they managed their time poorly and had to cut the last new rule. The only other explanation I can think of would be if it was about Boston and wouldn't work because they caught the guy an hour or so before the show.
Panel was good though. I always like it when he has Rushdie on. It felt like they managed their time poorly and had to cut the last new rule. The only other explanation I can think of would be if it was about Boston and wouldn't work because they caught the guy an hour or so before the show.
I don't feel like what you're saying (and what Levin turned the discussion into) is really what Maher was going for, I agree with most of it. Maher was pointing out that yet again, the Muslim terrorists didn't turn out to be devout followers of their religion. Why then start with explaining for the 99th time that not every Muslim is violent and not every hypocritical terrorist is a Muslim? That's where the discussion already went down the drain, the stereotypical liberal college professor just had to let it be known that the brown people are in fact not evil personified. I'm surprised he didn't make excessive use of the term Islamophobia to top it off. I'd rather have had a discussion about how the guy with the gross beard and his veiled wife might not share our values, but that they're not the security threat...the losers are.
layzie1989
Member
I went to the recording of the show last night, and had a pretty good time being in the audience. The whole set feels a lot smaller actually being there, but I was really struck by how smooth of a machine this show is. They're all so professional at what they do. They let us in, the head writer came out and warmed us up, we watched a pre-show montage, and then Bill just came out. Not that I should be surprised but the entire thing felt like such a performance, which in the end I guess it really is.
My friend and I had the same sentiment that you guys did about the first interview. I remember sitting there getting really annoyed at Bill for not letting the guy talk. Other than that I didn't have any problems with the panel. It seemed to be a pretty tame show for the most part.
Would definitely go again.
My friend and I had the same sentiment that you guys did about the first interview. I remember sitting there getting really annoyed at Bill for not letting the guy talk. Other than that I didn't have any problems with the panel. It seemed to be a pretty tame show for the most part.
Would definitely go again.
zero shift
Banned
Weren't the Boston bombers like not religious at all?
speculawyer
Member
Did New Rules get cut off? It usually ends with a rant but it sounded like just a few short new rules and then over. Maybe they ran out of time?
Ya he just ended on the last rule with no detailed explanation. Don't know why that was.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Kimmel was funny in overtime lol.
ChainedMaster
Banned
I used to like the show, definitely entertaining. But ever since his anti-vaccine rant, I just couldn't watch it anymore.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
LOLLLLLLLLL best part is when Lawrence got done yelling at the panel and then Maron goes "Lawrence you would know the answer to this..."
"YES I WOULD".
Dude was on fire.
"YES I WOULD".
Dude was on fire.
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