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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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n3ss said:Him and Balrog are my worst match ups so far...
Balrog I dont mind as much... i feel like he is a little easier to control and get around...
Bison on the other hand, his s.mk and s.hk kill viper SO BAD. He is a pain for Sagat too.. I think I lost like 18 straight last night against my friends Bison..
by the end of the session I understand what to do a bit more but the cross up mk into poke string/combos and s.mk/s.rh are pretty rough to deal with.
fatty
Member
toneroni said:
Yeah, I meant to finish him off with the Ultra Combo but it worked out better this way because I got the taunt in.
It feels great to get these kinds of wins because there's been so many times I'm been on the bad end of it as well.
I also love when I'm playing a defensive person and I try to get close as he's crouching/blocking. I get in right next to him into a crouch position as well...and then there's a waiting game to see if someone is going to attack low to get in a counter. So the both of us are just crouching and staring at each other, looking like idiots. The moment only lasts for less than a 1/2 second but it feels like an eternity. :lol
nakedsushi
Member
As much as I get bored of all the Kens I play, I can't help but failing miserably whenever one traps in in a corner and shoryukens the hell out of me. I usually play C.Viper. Is there a way to get out of that? I try to time a crouching fierce kick when they land, but for some reason, they end up doing it first.
diffusionx
Gold Member
toneroni said:
I suck so hard I often accidently hit the taunt button, which pisses me off because I'm not trying to disrespect someone who will almost certainly slaughter me. I turn it off when I'm playing but sometimes I forget.
viewtiful_dru
Member
The thing about "priority" is that its completely arbitrary and subjective.
There's no technical way to gauge priority. It's just a term used in place of "attack x beats attack y." Seeing as how determining what attack beats another is reliant on a number of factors (ie, timing, size of "blue"/"red" hitboxes, startup and recovery), trying to generally argue what determines "priority" is useless.
It's better to talk about things in specific instances, like, if Claw's c.MP is already active, will Ken's f+MK win since its startup is so quick? (vs stating that Rufus c.HP will lose to Balrog LP or whatever).
There's no technical way to gauge priority. It's just a term used in place of "attack x beats attack y." Seeing as how determining what attack beats another is reliant on a number of factors (ie, timing, size of "blue"/"red" hitboxes, startup and recovery), trying to generally argue what determines "priority" is useless.
It's better to talk about things in specific instances, like, if Claw's c.MP is already active, will Ken's f+MK win since its startup is so quick? (vs stating that Rufus c.HP will lose to Balrog LP or whatever).
sixteen-bit
Member
custom match -> priority: best connectionjrricky said:
or something like that
myDingling
Member
nakedsushi said:
Don't FK. Do something faster like LK or LP.
It does suck when they corner you. My most hated Ken move though is EX Tornado Kick into EX Shoryuken. Takes off probably 25-33% health while being ridiculously easy with no chance to counter or recover =(
As much as I hate dem Kens, I've been fighting more and more effing Sagats nowadays. Sagat seems so broken in this game. Ridiculous amounts of damage and speed on basic moves. Helaos has massive range+damage...good lord. I probably have to hit him three times as much with my Cammy in order to win. Any chance he'll get 'fixed'?
Man, I love Abel. He's the only person I really like playing as. BEFORE SFIV, I was mostly a shoto player. Now, I never play as them in an online match, probably thanks to the whole flowchart Ken stigma.
I do get a sense of satisfaction taking down Kens, Akumas and Sagats. With Akuma, I love baiting them to pull out either raging demon, and then let Abel's Ultra take priority. Always fun.
Anyway, I'm still usually playing at night, around 11pm EST for those interested "Jimb0" PSN (0 = zero) in some friendly matches.
I've yet to play someone with less than 3 bars, though I never get 5. It's perfectly smooth 99% of the time. There's never a shortage of people jumping in as a new challenger. It's actually impossible to play the arcade mode with the option on. I can't get through one character.
I do get a sense of satisfaction taking down Kens, Akumas and Sagats. With Akuma, I love baiting them to pull out either raging demon, and then let Abel's Ultra take priority. Always fun.
Anyway, I'm still usually playing at night, around 11pm EST for those interested "Jimb0" PSN (0 = zero) in some friendly matches.
jrricky said:
I've yet to play someone with less than 3 bars, though I never get 5. It's perfectly smooth 99% of the time. There's never a shortage of people jumping in as a new challenger. It's actually impossible to play the arcade mode with the option on. I can't get through one character.
gutter_trash
Banned
i am at 70% at about 1100 matches and 750 some wins roughly about
but I only have 270 wins on ranked lol at 3600BP
but I only have 270 wins on ranked lol at 3600BP
TurtleSnatcher
Member
I'm at 60-61% but I screw around in Player Matches with so many characters that it has ruined my win%
In the end I honestly don't care. I'm just having fun
In the end I honestly don't care. I'm just having fun
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Not sure if it was already posted, but I've been checking Amazon every day and didn't see this until today. Not only are PS3 fightpads back in stock, they're going for $37. Unfortunately they're selling them as "assorted" and not any character in particular. I'm in for two; I hope I get Ken and Akuma as shown :lol
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001PKUIOM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001PKUIOM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
jonah777 said:
Do things even your opponent wouldn't even think of.
I'll walk full screen from one corner to their face and throw them because they're getting ready to counter my Spiral Arrow, so I'm almost to them, they keep blocking, waiting for the attack and... nope, nothing special here, just a game-winning toss.
fatty
Member
Jim said:
Im the same way, in that before SFIV my main was Ken. I dont play as Ken as much (mostly against other shotos) due to people saying they dont like facing them, but I dont mind the shotos at all. Maybe its because Im aware of their tendencies so I like to see how they play him. But in general I just like playing online against whoever.
I didnt know that Abel's Ultra took priority over Akumas. Is there somewhere out there that breaks down these type of things? I guess Id assume that any Ultra would overtake Akumas since his has the advantage of not being blockable but Im not sure.
And I love playing arcade mode with the challenge option turned out. The furthest Ive gotten is one round before getting another challenge.
When this came out I played it non-stop for 2 weeks but suddenly a horrible pain shot through my right arm and now it hurts too much to play any game with quick button presses
I can only play slow paced games like Animal Crossing for a while until this horrible pain goes away. I miss this game so much though.. arrg.
I can only play slow paced games like Animal Crossing for a while until this horrible pain goes away. I miss this game so much though.. arrg.
I realized something today when I made my first venture online, I don't have a character I can call my main, and this really hurts. I haven't really put and focus or training on one specific character yet and it makes my playing ability pretty standard. If I was to say I had a best character, I guess it would be your typical shoto Ryu or Ken, which I'm not to excited about maining. I tried Abel, who intrigues me quite a bit, but Guile mopped the floor with me.
I really just need to start looking at strategies and such for specific players instead of trying to reach out all over the grid. I also tend to get way to aggressive with characters, which can be a pretty wrong road to take with a character like Abel. Anyone have any suggestions or specific strategies/sites/videos I should check out to get myself on my way?
I ended up going like 3-3 today, 2 of my losses were really close matches, 1 was an absolute ravage against me (vs Guile). So hopefully I can improve myself with this game, I never did succeed or put much time into Street Fighter games, I was always an SNK player. I'm trying to turn that around now, but it may be too late :lol
I really just need to start looking at strategies and such for specific players instead of trying to reach out all over the grid. I also tend to get way to aggressive with characters, which can be a pretty wrong road to take with a character like Abel. Anyone have any suggestions or specific strategies/sites/videos I should check out to get myself on my way?
I ended up going like 3-3 today, 2 of my losses were really close matches, 1 was an absolute ravage against me (vs Guile). So hopefully I can improve myself with this game, I never did succeed or put much time into Street Fighter games, I was always an SNK player. I'm trying to turn that around now, but it may be too late :lol
Killa Sasa
Member
Found this on the SRK Forums. Super damn funny :lol Rage quitters on XBL don't play.
eshelon from srk said:
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Banned
Killa Sasa said:
Holy crap.. that is insane, Lol.
GalacticAE
Member
I've played 1500 or so matches and lost about 390 of them. My win percentage is like 73% which I consider low. I want to keep it at 80% or above which I had for a while.
is there any way to punish dictator's headstomp? with guile or ryu specifically? sometimes i can catch it with guile's ub+fp, but unless there's something i'm missing, it seems like dic can just throw it out with impunity. i guess i don't get hit by it too often, but ARGH ITS ANNOYING AND IF THIS WAS ST I COULD KILL THAT SHIT
FindMyFarms
Member
Geez you guys have crazy high win %'s! I know I have over 1000 games, and last I checked my win % was around 55-60.
Killa Sasa
Member
drohne said:
Meet it with a jumping mp. And if you've got moves, you can also air throw that bitch. Break his back. I've lost to too many Bisons before i started countering all his BS.
He's on the list with Blanka.
Edit: this is a guile point of view. From what I can tell, you're an very good Guile player. If you're not using air throw much, start incorporating into your anti air game; it can also work on things like the rainbow Blanka ball. Took me a while but it's helped alot, and discourages the crossups that Guile is so weak against.
gutter_trash
Banned
to fight Bison, walk back and forth when you think he is going to stomp, you will be surprised how retarded the homing is.
Guile has decent walking speed and Sonic Boom Recovery and I always see them walking back instead of crouch charging now to try to screw Bison's homing
using slow characters, back dash
Guile has decent walking speed and Sonic Boom Recovery and I always see them walking back instead of crouch charging now to try to screw Bison's homing
using slow characters, back dash
FourSerioux
Member
Man, for whatever reason I just cannot get Ultras off consistently in a match. Even simple ones like the shotos ultras, half the time I do a dragon punch even though I make sure to go all the way down and all the way up, slow or fast, the timing seems almost random.
My main problem is Guile though, the guy I'm maining online. I don't have many issues with his flash kick and sonic boom, but man do I ever get frustrated trying to get his Ultra off (I'm just on the DS3 btw). I can get it off very consistently in challenge mode, and I've practiced it enough to work it into combos and such so I don't have to worry about it being blocked. But once I'm in a match, it just doesn't want to go. It's getting frustrating.
My main problem is Guile though, the guy I'm maining online. I don't have many issues with his flash kick and sonic boom, but man do I ever get frustrated trying to get his Ultra off (I'm just on the DS3 btw). I can get it off very consistently in challenge mode, and I've practiced it enough to work it into combos and such so I don't have to worry about it being blocked. But once I'm in a match, it just doesn't want to go. It's getting frustrating.
Killa Sasa
Member
FourSerioux said:
I know you can combo his super (if you haven't burn it off EX's), but his Ultra off anything other than a connected super? Almost doesn't sound worth it to me for difficulty
How's that damage off a combo into his Ultra? I thought there was a lot of time in the start up of Guile's ultra -- plus, it can be Focus Attacked if the person is quick (I learned this the hard way >:| ). Are you doing the Ultra the way that it's described in the manual/move list, or the (better) way drohne and others discovered (charge db, df db, b, ub + 3k)? I use the latter and haven't got the incorrect input in a while. The first though, I screw up all the time. Damn near impossible on a pad.
I've had this game for weeks and I still don't know who to main. I like Dictator but he almost feels cheap. I like Guile, too, but he seems very difficult to become proficient at. Gouken is fun but maybe a little slow? I'd like to learn Fei Long but he feels so different I'm having difficulty getting into a rhythm. Of course I don't want to use Ken/Ryu/Akuma/Sagat because too much sameness is boring.
jordan0386
Member
Why am I always open for punishment.
Where is the fucking blocking sometimes.
Good stuff though.
Where is the fucking blocking sometimes.
Good stuff though.
gutter_trash
Banned
what I do is that I spam the Devils Reverse then throw out a Headstomp when they expect another Devils Reverse and etcMrOctober said:Seriously. I use Bison and a simple walk forward makes me miss the headstomp. But that's where the Devil Reverse comes in handy
I love Bison
flarkminator
Member
Evlar said:
*pounds two gloved fists together*
I think you know the answer