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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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Aruarian Reflection
Chauffeur de la gdlk
I'm just curious, how do these SF4 pros get the funds to travel around the country and play in tournaments? The tournament winnings seem to be a mere couple hundred dollars on average, they're not sponsored, and they don't seem to have jobs because they play SF4 24/7. Did they formerly have jobs which they quit to dedicate to SF4?
Rummy Bunnz
Member
It's more boring because it's SAGAT. He has super high health and can punch the hell outta anybody. He oughta make some show, baby! ENTERTAIN ME.iam220 said:
myDingling
Member
Rummy Bunnz said:
Throwing is total shit against blanka. I think it's hard to be able to tell when he's standing or crouching, plus he has that weird parry move (cr+PPP). Also, I didn't know you could punish blocked balls with SA. The block stun on a ball always seemed really long to me, not to mention that they bounce back to about a character or more length away...I always figured if I tried to retaliate at all it would get punished. I'll try SA next time.
Rummy Bunnz
Member
It works really well and you have more time than you think to do it. I have problems punishing blocked Honda headbutts, though. The blockstun seems way longer than Blanka's ball, but it's probably just me being unaccustomed to fighting Honda.myDingling said:
I've also seen people recommend using FA against vertical balls, since he recovers too fast to throw him most of the time, but I always forget to do it.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
<3 my job. So easy to find these MadCatz accessories.
Got another controller today. My current one was feeling a little mushy on the bottom of the D-Pad. Guess thats what 327 hrs of gameplay does to these things. Still works but I got one just in case. Amazingly the store I went too also had a SE Stick but I didn't get it..
Got another controller today. My current one was feeling a little mushy on the bottom of the D-Pad. Guess thats what 327 hrs of gameplay does to these things. Still works but I got one just in case. Amazingly the store I went too also had a SE Stick but I didn't get it..
C- Warrior
Banned
BotoxAgent said:
It's funny. My cousin mentioned how he saw Justin at some recent tournament, I think it took place in Chicago, not sure on that. Focused more on the details of the story than of the venue.
He mentioned how Justin Wong was literally throwing a bitch-fest because the organizers of the tournament wouldn't pay X amount of money for him to play. Not only did they pay for his travel, hotel, food, entrance fee, and then some extra -- he wanted more! If not, he wouldn't play.
What a little bitch, tell that rolley-polley to go to graduate school and become a real professional. The fuck is this 'professional' Street Fighter player, dumbshit it's a game, and he's taking this professionalism too far.
myDingling
Member
C- Warrior said:
Dang, I guess the "jwong seems like a dick" feeling I got from those videos of him at the nationals seem justified.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
He was grateful and nice when we interviewed him. He was so appreciative and like thanked everyone for how awesome of an event was and he considered it his greatest moment in gaming which was cool. (Nat'l Tournament)
Spiderjericho
Member
Well, Fatal1ty is a professional gamer, and it seems like the next video game industry related job.
A part of me is entertained by watching match vids of Daigo, Poongko, Iyo, Mago, Tokido, Nuki, etc. So, I don't see anything wrong with inviting them to an event and paying them to appear.
I'm just blown away by the fact they're able to etch out a living from it.
A part of me is entertained by watching match vids of Daigo, Poongko, Iyo, Mago, Tokido, Nuki, etc. So, I don't see anything wrong with inviting them to an event and paying them to appear.
I'm just blown away by the fact they're able to etch out a living from it.
C- Warrior
Banned
myDingling said:
Yeah, after I heard this story I'm totally rooting for Daigo which seems like a nice, modest guy.
This, in your face extreme professional Street Fighter IV is a sport son that Justin deals out is kind of retarded. MLB, NFL -- sure...SFIV hardc0re justin wong style...noooo.
I can understand some would argue that Justin should get paid, considering his presence is kind of attracting more attendees, but you take care of that shit privately and quietly, not throw a hissy fit and start talking shit, yellling, and talking down to other players. And it just sounds like a dickhead move to threaten people about leaving if you won't get paid to play a fun game with peers. It's like, really?! REEEAAALLLLY?!
FindMyFarms
Member
TurtleSnatcher said:
In most competitive activities, top participants will almost always be mr. nice guy in front of the media. Michael Jordan is a prime example of this. He was the picture perfect nice guy in front of the cameras, but people would tell countless stories of his doucherey when the cameras weren't watching.
Now obviously, Justin Wong is nothing even close to Michael Jordan, but don't be surprised if he acts the same way.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Today in Championship Mode (G2):
Blanka
Blanka
Turtle Ryu
Turtle Ryu
Turtle Ryu
Turtle Ryu
Flowchart Ken
Turtle Ryu
Normal Ryu
Turtle Ryu
*SNORE*
Even had a guy who had Dhalsim as his main before (he "challenged" me some time ago) pick Ryu today, only so he could turtle. What the hell...
Surprisingly, I've had less trouble with Sagats than with flowchart / turtle shoto's. Hate how tedious bouts against those characters can be. :[
Blanka
Blanka
Turtle Ryu
Turtle Ryu
Turtle Ryu
Turtle Ryu
Flowchart Ken
Turtle Ryu
Normal Ryu
Turtle Ryu
*SNORE*
Even had a guy who had Dhalsim as his main before (he "challenged" me some time ago) pick Ryu today, only so he could turtle. What the hell...
Haven't gotten the chance to try this out yet, but does this work with everyone? I'm doubting because Dhalsim's walk speed is pretty slow compared to other's.arstal said:
Won due to luck there, but thanks anyway.Rocky_Balboa said:MicVlad, I spotted your replay against that Sagat. Pretty awesome stuff. Good job. I've been having some problems against that one sometimes.
Surprisingly, I've had less trouble with Sagats than with flowchart / turtle shoto's. Hate how tedious bouts against those characters can be. :[
just started messing around with rose. holy shit, I am so used to QCF P or QCB P from Crouching MK, the crouching MP to QCF K is messing me up. anyway..does she have a "get the fuck off me" move, I got trapped in the corner by chun li and got pwned. I actually try using her soul reflect, it actually worked once.
gutter_trash
Banned
I am a cross-up magnet now that everyone has figured out that my Sumo is fodder to cross-up hell when I have no EX meter left
I hate my Ultra!! Zanief's cannot be hit in the mid section while Lariating which is Ultra retarded and see Honda stay stuck in mid-air and Zangief unharmed until the Ultra end and the Lariat that is still spinning for 5 hours hits Honda's Ultra's end
retarded
I can't wait for Champion Edition 2nd Impact to fix this retardity
I hate my Ultra!! Zanief's cannot be hit in the mid section while Lariating which is Ultra retarded and see Honda stay stuck in mid-air and Zangief unharmed until the Ultra end and the Lariat that is still spinning for 5 hours hits Honda's Ultra's end
retarded
I can't wait for Champion Edition 2nd Impact to fix this retardity
FindMyFarms
Member
Just wondering, for all the people that are complaining about turtles, what is it exactly that you wish your opponent would do instead?
gutter_trash
Banned
the screen is tooo wide-screen, Vega and Bison can run away all match long.FindMyFarms said:
Some moves are too prioritorish while others are completely not.
If I have a lead against Blanka, Im gonna say fuck you Blanka, I am going to sit on my Lead because you a retarded.
Stupid Ultras, STupid Ultras, STupid Ultras, I hate Ultras, I just want SUpers
myDingling
Member
FindMyFarms said:
Attack? It's just annoying when you're put into a position where your opponent has a better than normal chance of punishing whatever advance you make. I guess some characters have to turtle to play effectively but it's still annoying.
FindMyFarms
Member
myDingling said:
Why do you want them to attack? Is it in hopes that they leave themselves vulnerable and thus make it easier for you to punish them? All this meaning, it's easier for you to win?
myDingling
Member
FindMyFarms said:
You're right! It's decided, let's all back into a corner and crouch block until time runs out and then talk about how cool our outfits look afterward.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Not sit in a corner all the time?FindMyFarms said:
I mean, today was so bad, I even had a turtle Ryu who refused to make a move after I absorbed nearly every one of his Hadokens with the Focus Attack (EX-version not included naturally). I wanted to see if he'd go on offensive if half my lifebar was on the line, and yet he still stood there doing next to nothing (other than throwing fireballs of course). Apparently not even ludicruously easy wins are enticing enough for turtle Ryu's to crawl out of their shell.
FindMyFarms
Member
myDingling said:
I'm not sure what question you're answering, but it's not mine. I didn't ask at all what you were doing, just what you wanted your opponent to do.
MicVlaD said:
But in that situation you're both turtling. You can't get mad at the Ryu player for doing the same thing you are.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Ugh, my sticklessness is driving me insane. Insane.
Aruarian Reflection
Chauffeur de la gdlk
TurtleSnatcher said:
Weren't you part of the team running the event? Let's not be so naive.
Rocky_Balboa
Member
After almost 2000 matches with Boxer, I'm thinking to start playing with Abel also. Any tips?
Some points and questions:
*f.mk -> is a good for pressure and starting combos. If the kick hits what is the most safest combo after that?
*Wheel kick is good for OH and sometimes AA. Also with EX I can dodge some fireballs.
*j.mk for cross-up
*I think I know how to use CoD with combos and the EX-version to counter some pokes. Anything else that I need to know about CoD?
*Roll? When to use it? How to use it on wake-up? EX-version?
*Using the Tornado Throw. Good for punishment. What else do I need to know?
*SKy Fall is useless outside a combo, am I right?
*Anti-Air moves pretty much suck, right?
Also I hate the df,df/db,db shortcut because instead of ultra I get the stupid ass Sky fall!!! I guess I have to practice to be more precise with the FightPad.
Some points and questions:
*f.mk -> is a good for pressure and starting combos. If the kick hits what is the most safest combo after that?
*Wheel kick is good for OH and sometimes AA. Also with EX I can dodge some fireballs.
*j.mk for cross-up
*I think I know how to use CoD with combos and the EX-version to counter some pokes. Anything else that I need to know about CoD?
*Roll? When to use it? How to use it on wake-up? EX-version?
*Using the Tornado Throw. Good for punishment. What else do I need to know?
*SKy Fall is useless outside a combo, am I right?
*Anti-Air moves pretty much suck, right?
Also I hate the df,df/db,db shortcut because instead of ultra I get the stupid ass Sky fall!!! I guess I have to practice to be more precise with the FightPad.
FindMyFarms
Member
Won said:I start to believe that you actually never played the game.
You lose a match by losing life. You lose life by getting attacked. This is extremely basic. Now tell me again, why would you want your opponent to attack you? Don't call people out if you can't answer the question.
uh you pretty much got everything down, just learn the different properties of tornado throw:Rocky_Balboa said:
lp = most range, least dmg
mp = medium range, medium dmg
hp = least range, most dmg (more than EX tornado)
And apparently EX version has priority over hits, while regular throw has priority over throws.
So basically you can use regular and EX tornado throws as a mixup.
and also CoD is very unsafe, so try to keep some bars for a FADC.
and of course his ultra goes through fireballs, so when you have a full gauge try to bait it out of people (and by people i mean NOT guile).
FindMyFarms
Member
Rocky_Balboa said:
EX CoD is gonna be your go to anti air, you can even ultra off of it when used as anti air.
Remember, you can CANCEL out of your cr. fk. Lots of people get caught off guard from a cr. fk xx wheel kick or cr. fk xx roll mixup.
Off of cr. fp, you can go for the immediate SF, or you can roll first to build bar then SF. Other options are cr. fp xx lk roll xx cr. fp xx lk/mk roll. It's a nice reset, for the second roll lk puts you in front of them, mk puts you behind them. It's an easy way to sneak in a tornado throw for unsuspecting people. For people that try to throw on landing, a meaty cr. fp will beat that and you can start the mix up all over again.
There's a lot of stuff to Abel, but those are my 2 favorite nuances to his game.
Tell me about it. I should have ordered mine much earlier.Lost Fragment said:
So, is it just me, or am I right to assume that something fishy is going on when horrendous lag starts to kick in as soon as my opponent is low on health? In the first round I wasn't suspecting anything, hiccups happen, no big deal even though I lost that round because of it. The connection recovered too, so whatever. Then the same thing happens in the second round and I get the distinct impression that this was no coincidence.
Rocky_Balboa
Member
cr.fk is a sweep right. So will the canceling work or is just for blocked sweeps?FindMyFarms said:
FindMyFarms
Member
Rufus said:
Yeah it's definitely fishy >.> People out there do use lag spike programs, and it sucks :/ I've definitely played people that spiked me repeatedly in tense moments only to find myself KO'd.
FindMyFarms
Member
Rocky_Balboa said:
It works on hit too, cr. mk gives you a crossup after knockdown. Also I forgot which and where it is, but one of the wheel kicks when spaced right gives you a body crossup on their wakeup.
C- Warrior
Banned
FindMyFarms said:
Yeah. I was playing a guy and everything would be smooth. However, lag would oddly kick in the moment I land a headbutt with a charged ultra... Hm, how odd. This happened in all 4 rounds (we were playing best out of 6).
And LOL at people bitching about turtles. You can punish them so badly. Build up some ultra meter by focus absorbing their bullshit. FA absorb --> cancel to get close, and just throw their ass, cross them up etc.
People who turtle tend to get lazy fingers since their mindset is totally defensive based. Bum rush those fuckers. As a Vega player, this happens to me all the time. All I do is a slide, a downfoward+K to pop in close, tick throw, cross up EX wall attacks etc. I love turtles.
In fact, I do poorly against rush down characters -- but that probably more has to do the with the fact that I'm using Vega.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Stantron
Member
I've pick up using Honda recently (almost caught up to Chun in play %), and I can attest to the frustration. Not being able to have priority over Zangief's Lariat is fucking retarded. Also, I've done my ultra on wake up (hard, for me at least since you need to time it just right) against a Ryu player who threw a fireball to KO me with chip damage. He was less than half a screen away, yet by the time the Ultra connected, he was able to block. Bullshit. Timing the ultra to hit a jumping in opponent is also tricky, and seems to need to be very precise. I think I need to learn how to do the FADC>Ultra and incorporate that into my game.gutter_trash said:
On the bright side, I love catching people with oicho throw after a blocked butt slam.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Only because he started it. If I walk forward and the turtle Ryu immediatedly jumps backwards during the very first round, then I have every right to "get mad" and waste his time as well (not that I consider my time as precious or anything) by directly copying his behaviour.FindMyFarms said:
And regarding the lifebar: I mean, it's somewhat understandable if they don't want to risk losing their lead against a decent opponent, but to even go as far as turtle when they're behind? By a lot? Yeah, screw that.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Um its not like the guy is a spokesperson for my company. He was honestly nice.. go see the interview.. I've linked to the piece that was made. He was honestly nice. Yes that was in front of a camera but he had a completely different personality in front of another interviewer we saw the link before.SnowWolf said:
I guess he was just in the shock of the moment and just extremely happy.
EDIT: Not defending the guy just stating what I saw. SnowWolf its not like you've sat down with the guy so your opinion should mean even less then anyone elses.