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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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Flying_Phoenix
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So yeah I've played a fair share of the game. I think it's pretty cool it's just as I expected "Street Fighter Modernized" I still far prefer Third Strike though.
Net Code's fine with me. Just go to lobby search and find someone who has a green connection.
Try going to the main menu and hitting the "RT" button and editing your options.
Tiktaalik said:
Net Code's fine with me. Just go to lobby search and find someone who has a green connection.
ggp759 said:
Try going to the main menu and hitting the "RT" button and editing your options.
McBradders
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Jirotrom said:
Nope, not complaining, just curious. I now need to track it down.
FindMyFarms
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prodystopian said:
I don't really play Akuma, I just picked 2 off characters for the tourney cuz I didn't want to use rog lol. I know a few things about him, but I don't think I'm at liberty to talk about him :lol
But yeah, jump back throw fireballs works. If they think you're going to do it again and try to punish, do jump back roundhouse -> combo to punish
Lost Fragment
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Ysiadmihi said:
Rush rush rush. Keep your opponent guessing. On knockdown, just keep forward until your opponent wakes up and force them to guess whether you're gonna go for a grab, a cannon spike, fa, low attack, etc.
Master tk cannon strike and her c.lk, c.lp, c.lk, sa and c.hp, c.mk, sa combos.
Against shotos, bait srks by jumping in and doing a deep cannon strike.
Lost Fragment
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sixteen-bit
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:lolLost Fragment said:
McBradders
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Ikuu said:
Hmn I couldn't get the thing I used to actually do anything...
Lost Fragment
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sixteen-bit
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Not really. It's actually an anime convention and the main attraction game is going to be brawl. Some SRKers are supposed to show up so there could be footage but I'm not sure.GriffD17 said:The offer still stands. If you want the pleasure of training a nub my xbl tag is griffd17
And _dementia, were you planning on having videos of the tourney you're going to?
MoxManiac said:
Ah okay, figured that it was only Chun-Li since both vids were of her...
I know about the face & every other animation unique to the original character messing up Chun-Li though, since people tend to love swapping characters like this in other games too... :lol
C- Warrior
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I'm really starting to get annoyed by the whole Ultra system. Especially with the Sagats, Ryus and Rufus'.
The Ultra is a high risk/high reward element that can turn the tide of battle (no shit, right).
Yet for these fucking characters, it's a matter of - OOOPS, shoryuken, let's throw the Ultra. Or for Rufus, congrats, light kick to heavy kick, ultra, congrats -
It's so fucking retarded. If a character can throw out Ultra's that connect by fucking accident, then they shouldn't do nearly as much damage as those who have a harder time landing theirs.
The Ultra is a high risk/high reward element that can turn the tide of battle (no shit, right).
Yet for these fucking characters, it's a matter of - OOOPS, shoryuken, let's throw the Ultra. Or for Rufus, congrats, light kick to heavy kick, ultra, congrats -
It's so fucking retarded. If a character can throw out Ultra's that connect by fucking accident, then they shouldn't do nearly as much damage as those who have a harder time landing theirs.
Lost Fragment
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C- Warrior said:
Agree with this 100%. Hopefully SF4 v2 will nerf a few of those annoyances.
...who am I kidding. They'll probably nerf nothing and give Sagat a simultaneous high/low tiger shot.
sixteen-bit
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Are Guile and Vega able do this outside of focus crumples?UC1 said:
sixteen-bit
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the more you know ★
prodystopian
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I noticed that you could make a pretty reasonable tier list based on damage and ways to combo into/use of ultra alone.
sixteen-bit
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prodystopian
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_dementia said:
Haha I forgot about that. Seriously, though look at the latest tier list and tell me that one based solely on Ultra's would be incredibly different:
Some would definitely get shuffled, but I stand by my point.
sixteen-bit
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Totakeke said:
totally untrue btw, Abel should keep up the pressure and mixup game.
No Ultra necessary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-aMhQfK3Qo
Spirit of Jazz
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_dementia said:
That's just flat out insane, Abel's massive impressive in mirror matches no doubt. But would you have any videos of him against character who can turtle successfully? Or anybody who can use fireballs? As even though I'm nowhere near that players calibre those are the opponents who give me problems.
C- Warrior
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:lol :lol :lol :lol - using SRK as an anti-air is not high risk genius. Granted, it's my fault for jumping in, but my punishment for jumping in should be the damage from the SRK. Not damage from a mindless idiot doing an SRK and then doing an Ultra which isn't hard to do at all. Pulling off Ultra's that aren't from simple counters, or FA's should take skill. I.e, Ken --> hit confirm light punches into a fierce SRK and FADC out of the second and only the second connect and then do a partial Ultra. Balrog's isn't too bad as well. Combo the headbutt into a partial Ultra. But not only can Ryu/Sagat/Rufus combo INTO A FULL FUCKING ULTRA, it's retard-easy to set it up.UC1 said:
I jump in a Ryu with a heavy kick, he launches a late short dragon punch (which is pretty quick and in some instances flat out safe on landing) - so technically, he fucks up - we trade damage and he launches his Ultra. That's crap.
Or, a Ryu player will mash medium punch in the air - get lucky, juggle me and bam ULTRA.
There is no risk. If that Ryu player fucks up on his medium air punch juggle, at worst he'll just trade with my air attack.
Sagat, jump in heavy kick, c. medium kick, ex tiger - BAM ULTRA OMEHWHIGH OMG!!
Where is the risk? At worst I block it and with the fast recover I can't counter.
And then let's look at Ken, or Guile, or Vega, or E.Honda, or the other characters that aren't Rufus, Ryu and Sagat. We have to fucking hit confirm into a FADC and get a partial damage Ultra?
Fuck this shit.
Capcom needs to look at each characters Ultra and treat it as if it's a character on its own. And then balance it accordingly with comparison to other characters.
Ryu - literally, has about SIX FUCKING DIFFERENT ways to combo into his full ULTRA. 5 out of those 6 methods TAKES NO FUCKING SKILL.
So, I'm fighting to death, doing pokes, throws, mind-games, and this fucker is throwing fireballs 24/7, gets lucky due to lag and trades anti-air, and launches an Ultra that takes 45% of my life?
Shit.Is.Fuck.Bullshit.Retarded.
If you're Ultra is idiot-proof combo-able, max damage 300 with low end 200. Fuck this 50% shit.
C- Warrior
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prodystopian said:
I support this notion 100%.
Moreover, if you look at the top tier characters, they all include the characters that have easy Ultra juggles and combos. I.e, Ryu, Sagat, and Rufus.
And what do you know, the more shitty the Ultra - the lower they are. I.e, fucking Vega. Who can't combo into his Ultra at all.
*...the more you know indeed.
Anyway, the Ultra system ass-fucks this game so much. It's not maybe - it is the reason why characters are at certain tiers, it's 90% due to Ultra's alone. Thats too much emphasis on one single element of the game.
Teknopathetic
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"I jump in a Ryu with a heavy kick, he launches a late short dragon punch (which is pretty quick and in some instances flat out safe on landing) - so technically, he fucks up - we trade damage and he launches his Ultra. That's crap."
He fucked up, but you fucked up worst. Randomly jumping in on a shoto is just asking for trouble, Street Fighter 101.
"Sagat, jump in heavy kick, c. medium kick, ex tiger - BAM ULTRA OMEHWHIGH OMG!!
Where is the risk? At worst I block it and with the fast recover I can't counter."
If you can't punish a blocked EX Tiger uppercut, that's *all* you.
Also, the tiers in Third Strike were largely decided by supers. Nothing's changed.
He fucked up, but you fucked up worst. Randomly jumping in on a shoto is just asking for trouble, Street Fighter 101.
"Sagat, jump in heavy kick, c. medium kick, ex tiger - BAM ULTRA OMEHWHIGH OMG!!
Where is the risk? At worst I block it and with the fast recover I can't counter."
If you can't punish a blocked EX Tiger uppercut, that's *all* you.
Also, the tiers in Third Strike were largely decided by supers. Nothing's changed.
_dementia said:
totally untrue btw, Abel should keep up the pressure and mixup game.
No Ultra necessary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-aMhQfK3Qo
I don't know if you're serious by linking an Abel vs Abel video, which is a pretty dumb matchup, but his poking game is very weak, anti-air is terrible and to setup he needs to overcome the former two. Plus his mixups are okay, but not great either as they're not that hard to get out of.
I watched all good Abel players on youtube I can find, but when played against newer players who don't even understand what your character is trying to do, all that mixups go all out of the window when they can defeat them by randomly jabbing or srk.
It's funny how many times I try to punish a blocked SRK but instead get hit by another SRK instead.