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[Zissou]

Necro? Fuck necro.

It's kind of weird how the shift in gameplay systems from 3rd strike to IV changed how low health characters like necro (dhalsim equivalent) and akuma play, going from all-or-nothing rush down characters to run-the-fuck-away characters. Seems like necro would be pretty redundant with sim and seth given how those sorts of characters panned on in the first rendition of IV.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

My bet is there will either be air blocking or some kind of air focus attack.

they better give gouken something nice after demon flip, because air focus would really undermine his air parry. I don't like the idea of air blocking at all, keep that shit in alpha along with custom combos.

I'm betting akuma will get his tenma gou zanku.

 

[black_vegeta]

Didn't the original mole say he had to "keep quiet" until October 1?

There could be other mole's who don't give a damn??

 

[tapedeck]

they better give gouken something nice after demon flip, because air focus would really undermine his air parry. I don't like the idea of air blocking at all, keep that shit in alpha along with custom combos.

I'm betting akuma will get his tenma gou zanku.

For the record I HATE air blocking, I pray they never use it outside of alpha.

 

[Arpharmd B]

Maybe they'll make a neutered version of CB and turn it into an EX attack
Kinda like Ryu's Shinku Tatsumaki was a super in Alpha and became an EX move in SFIII and IV.

I like the way you think.

Having to use a whole meter, Ultra or otherwise, for Corkscrew Blow would be pretty much pointless. Then again, we are hoping for the -same- Dudley we got in 3s... this isn't 3s...

I mean you can't cancel a regular move into Ultra like you can a Super so that right there will automatic changes for Dudley no matter what.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

This all sounds awesome, and I love the way SF IV plays but Im always up for something new

 

[PhatSaqs]

Eh. Im tempering my excitement....

 

[FunnyBunny]

There could be other mole's who don't give a damn??

Oh, I know that!

I meant to imply that is a possible announcement date if it does not happen at TGS.

 

[hikarutilmitt]

I wonder if, since the Revenge meter is 2 tiered, if one Ultra will be for half stock and the other for full stock (almost like in MOTW).

For that matter, allowing cancels into Ultra at the cost of half the Revenge or half/all of the super meter would make some Ultras USEFUL while the damage scaling for combos would keep their damage toned down so you don't end up with Sagat eating your health in one shot.

 

[Spiderjericho]

This thread is moving fast based on conjecture.

I hope a lot of this stuff turns out to be true except the air ultras and air blocking. And I hope you can combo ultras now, just scale the damage down.

 

[Shito]

I hope a lot of this stuff turns out to be true except the air ultras and air blocking.

No leak is talking about air blocking: this point is just pure gaf speculation! ^^

 

[Lost Fragment]

I wonder if, since the Revenge meter is 2 tiered, if one Ultra will be for half stock and the other for full stock (almost like in MOTW).

This is a good point.

 

[Threi]

I wonder if, since the Revenge meter is 2 tiered, if one Ultra will be for half stock and the other for full stock (almost like in MOTW).

That would actually be REALLY awesome.

A lot of the appeal for SF IV was back to the basics type mechanics.

Agreed. I find that finding quirks to simple mechanics is MUCH more entertaining both to watch and to play than just knowing complex mechanics.

 

[jabipun]

I don't know about this air blocking business.

A lot of the appeal for SF IV was back to the basics type mechanics.

Throwing in air blocking kind of just further complicates things. Maybe not for me, or for you - but SF IV sold well because it catered to both.

It's very easy and tempting on part of the developers to design SSF IV Dash or whatever for the Daigo's or Justin Wong's of the world, but that doesn't make for a long lasting community that builds itself from the grass roots level.

 

[Cowie]

- Rufus can cancel-break the last hit of Spectacle Romance, or the launch kick of Space Opera Symphony.

What does cancel-break mean? Should I be excited?

I guess the next question becomes.. will my unconditional love for Makoto override the fact that there's no way I'll be better with her than I am with rufus? Is the new chick cute? Will none of this matter because I finally finish learning viper? STAY TUNED.

 

[vertopci]

As long as Urien and Yun and/or Yang are in, I will be happy.

Spoiler

I would love to have Remy in though. LoV machinegun ftw

 

[Zabka]

I really hope there aren't 2 Ultras per character. This game is already weighted a bit much towards defensive play for my taste.

 

[tapedeck]

I don't know about this air blocking business.

A lot of the appeal for SF IV was back to the basics type mechanics.

Throwing in air blocking kind of just further complicates things. Maybe not for me, or for you - but SF IV sold well because it catered to both.

It's very easy and tempting on part of the developers to design SSF IV Dash or whatever for the Daigo's or Justin Wong's of the world, but that doesn't make for a long lasting community that builds itself from the grass roots level.

FFS. There is no info suggesting air blocking, I was simply speculating cause of the air ultras and whatnot. And I do NOT want air blocking...and from the looks of it neither does anyone else. I hope that clears that up.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

As long as Urien and Yun and/or Yang are in, I will be happy.

Spoiler

I would love to have Remy in though. LoV machinegun ftw

Prepare to be disapointed since you obviously didn't read the last few pages ?

 

[BitchTits]

I don't know about this air blocking business.

A lot of the appeal for SF IV was back to the basics type mechanics.

Throwing in air blocking kind of just further complicates things. Maybe not for me, or for you - but SF IV sold well because it catered to both.

It's very easy and tempting on part of the developers to design SSF IV Dash or whatever for the Daigo's or Justin Wong's of the world, but that doesn't make for a long lasting community that builds itself from the grass roots level.

These 'leaks' haven't mentioned air blocking have they, just posts here in the thread?

I completely agree though, and I think all the stuff the makers of SF4 said whilst it was in developement with regards to it being aimed at the wider audience, makes me think they won't abandon that philosophy. Adding in too much technical stuff will turn off the general crowd, and it might be another 10 years before we see SF5!

 

[black_vegeta]

There better not be air-blocking in SSF4.

Capcom, don't you dare!!!!!

 

[BlueLegs]

It's kind of weird how the shift in gameplay systems from 3rd strike to IV changed how low health characters like necro (dhalsim equivalent) and akuma play, going from all-or-nothing rush down characters to run-the-fuck-away characters. Seems like necro would be pretty redundant with sim and seth given how those sorts of characters panned on in the first rendition of IV.

Necro plays nothing like either of those two characters, exception being the air drill and the stretchy limbs thing. He is a pure rush down character, he's worthless if played with a keep away mind set.

Nothing worth arguing about though, just let me dream.

 

[n3ss]

I personally don't care for SF4, mostly play it randomly... All I want is a more offsenive friendly game. I know most of the things that bug me about this game (casuals love), will stay the same. Just make it more offsenive game, I beg of you.

 

[vertopci]

Prepare to be disapointed since you obviously didn't read the last few pages ?

I refuse to believe the rumors!

Spoiler

Unless one of the characters I mentioned is rumored as being in

 

[Stabby McSter]

wahh i only really wanted urien in the new one

 

[black_vegeta]

I personally don't care for SF4, mostly play it randomly... All I want is a more offsenive friendly game. I know most of the things that bug me about this game (casuals love), will stay the same. Just make it more offsenive game, I beg of you.

Defense wins championships son!!!!

 

[Spiderjericho]

Defense wins championships son!!!!

Ask the Steelers and Baltimore Ravens.

Course Offense also can play a big part. And I can see where N3ss is coming from.

 

[vertopci]

wahh i only really wanted urien in the new one

I don't even play Urien but he's so fucking badass. Plus his 3S song is awesome. How could anyone NOT want him in?

 

[sixteen-bit]

guard break bar pls

 

["God's Beard!"]

I don't even play Urien but he's so fucking badass. Plus his 3S song is awesome. How could anyone NOT want him in?

He offends people's sensibilities.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

I don't even play Urien but he's so fucking badass. Plus his 3S song is awesome. How could anyone NOT want him in?

he should've been the boss, fuck Seth

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

No air blocking = ???

Don't jump in on an Akuma with ultra must like you don't jup in on Ryu with ultra...

 

[Dascu]

guard break bar pls

Best suggestion I've heard all day.

 

[Lyte Edge]

So these rumors are coming from credible sources? You guys seem to be readily accepting everything as fact.

 

[CPS2]

So these rumors are coming from credible sources? You guys seem to be readily accepting everything as fact.

Stop ruining our good time -_-

 

[Lyte Edge]

We can have a good time when (if?) something is revealed at TGS.

 

[Mr.Squirrel]

So these rumors are coming from credible sources? You guys seem to be readily accepting everything as fact.

board the hype train before it becomes the fail boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

["God's Beard!"]

board the hype train before it becomes the fail boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When the failboat crashes we're gonna need a waaaambulance.

 

[Steaks]

So these rumors are coming from credible sources? You guys seem to be readily accepting everything as fact.

Eh, I am going to say it's pretty real. I actually have nothing to do nor actually know the sources on this rumor though.

Edit: I wonder if Psycho Punisher has anything to do with Tyrant Punisher.

 

[Jenga]

even if all of this is true, we've yet to hear the balance changes. the entire cast could get 9 new ultras, we'd still need to know all the changes before we call stuff broken.


also, five bucks says siberian blizzard would either be an ultra airgrab or gief slamming down on his opponents hugo style

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

Best suggestion I've heard all day.

Guard breaking is as terrible an idea as air blocking. If you can't get by blocking opponents in SF4 you're playing it wrong.

 

[Pop On Arrival]

I hope this is all fake and they announce nothing.

 

[Jenga]

I hope this is all fake and they announce nothing.

I hope you get hit by a cat

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

guard break bar pls

nah

the way SF4 is, in some match-ups some characters HAVE too block alot, i mean just of the top; Honda/Zangief vs Sagat/Akuma, Abel vs Akuma...ect, and FAD is not as safe as parry

Guard break would be in a Street Fighter 5 the way things are now, they'd have to change the way the game is played overall.

 

[bob_arctor]

...and parrying, are what I disliked the most about 3s.

What the hell? That's what made it badass. See also: Daigo Parry Of The Forever.

 

[sixteen-bit]

What the hell? That's what made it badass. See also: Daigo Parry Of The Forever.

what's that?

 

[Threi]

What the hell? That's what made it badass. See also: Daigo Parry Of The Forever.

Its fun to watch when someone has it completely down but FA is the superior move.

Despite not looking so, a comeback without the parry system would be more impressive.

 

[fubarduck]

So these rumors are coming from credible sources? You guys seem to be readily accepting everything as fact.

People who played the build in Tokyo for a private TGS event just weren't very close-lipped. Sure, they could still change things, but the current build has everything that has been stated.

 

[Hitokage]

Meh, I don't miss parries.

 

[Steaks]

Its fun to watch when someone has it completely down but FA is the superior move.

Despite not looking so, a comeback without the parry system would be more impressive.

While focus attacks are cool, they aren't better than parries. Haha.

What the hell? That's what made it badass. See also: Daigo Parry Of The Forever.

If you actually knew/played high level 3s you would pretty much despise parries. I don't think many people on GAF know how retarded, complex and powerful option selects involving parries are. I played tournament 3s for years and... eh, the game is really really fun, but the game should not have had a long lasting tournament scene.

PS Hi fubarduck.